Re: Do YOU react to natural gas fumes?

[Guest guest]

yep, chemical sensitivity is common. I am allergic to formaldehyde, and phenol

maybe,

and when I have gotten a heavy mold exposure I have trouble with all kinds of

chemicals I

used to tolerate fine. For me it dies down after several days to weeks.

That heater must not be venting right. Maybe you can see what can be done about

that.

Good luck,

K.

[Guest guest]

> and when I have gotten a heavy mold exposure I have trouble with all

kinds of chemicals I used to tolerate fine. For me it dies down after

several days to weeks.

> K.

Now you have hit upon the very issue which made the MCS crowd so upset

with me!

I claimed that extreme mycotoxin avoidance alone modulated my response

to other chemicals - and that after six months of concerted and

EXTREME avoidance of mycotoxins, that my other chemical sensitivities

disappeared.

Instead of being interested, the MCSers just got angry and said that

this was impossible and that nobody had ever heard of such a thing.

And that since no one had ever heard of this, that it couldn't

possibly be true.

Refused to listen and didn't want to hear another word!

It's interesting that their instant rejection of the concept was even

more intense than the typical doctor response that " Mold Illness does

not exist " .

And I believe the MCSers are just now starting to discover how badly

they snookered themselves.

-

[Guest guest]

A friend of mine was sick for 9 months and ready to go on disability

when they discovered the exhaust was sneaking in from other peoples

water heaters in the apt. building. The landlord was required to fix

it, she moved out in the mean time, and made a complete recovery

> I live in an apartment that is heated by electric heat. However, the

> hot water tank is heated by natural gas. The hot water tank is

> beneath my bedroom. The slight fumes from the natural gas never

> bothered me until I was made so super sensitive by the mold

exposure.

> Now I'm suspecting that the natural gas is an issue. Does anyone

have

> an opinion about this, or experience with similar circumstances?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Get Rid of MOLD

[Guest guest]

,

You are correct to a degree. Snooker is more than a billiard game

to some........I have noticed MCS type customers get remarkably

tolerant of chemicals once the mold is gone and their bodies have

had time to clean the system - so to speak.

In fact, I think the MCS folks really have a metabolism issue and

they are mistakenly pointing a finger at manmade chemicals when

nature churns way more of the same types of chemicals. These are

generally the same people who think ozone works.

The heart of the matter is metabolism of chemicals from many sources

(manmade and nature). Reduce the ones that are at the top of the

list so the body can learn to filter the rest through metabolism.

I think three (3) areas of manmade chemicals that are problematic

are:

1) Aldehydes (becomes acetyl aldehyde in the body)

2) Combustion byproducts

3) Oxidizers like chlorine and ozone

These types of chemicals have been greatly reduced but, the biggest

offenders are natural toxins or chemicals.

It would be interesting if Dr. Shoemaker could gather data on

chemical sensitivity complaints before, during and after (6 months,

1 year and 2 years)his treatments. I think it would be enlightening.

Regards,

Greg Weatherman

aerobioLogical Solutions Inc.

Arlington VA 22202-2020

gw@...

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>

> > and when I have gotten a heavy mold exposure I have trouble with

all

> kinds of chemicals I used to tolerate fine. For me it dies down

after

> several days to weeks.

> > K.

>

>

> Now you have hit upon the very issue which made the MCS crowd so

upset

> with me!

> I claimed that extreme mycotoxin avoidance alone modulated my

response

> to other chemicals - and that after six months of concerted and

> EXTREME avoidance of mycotoxins, that my other chemical

sensitivities

> disappeared.

> Instead of being interested, the MCSers just got angry and said

that

> this was impossible and that nobody had ever heard of such a thing.

> And that since no one had ever heard of this, that it couldn't

> possibly be true.

> Refused to listen and didn't want to hear another word!

> It's interesting that their instant rejection of the concept was

even

> more intense than the typical doctor response that " Mold Illness

does

> not exist " .

>

> And I believe the MCSers are just now starting to discover how

badly

> they snookered themselves.

> -

[Guest guest]

You can do something about it if it is leaking gas. You figure that

out by going down and checking out each place there is a junction of

pipe to fittings and make sure there is no gas odor coming from

those. It takes some patients. It isn't extremely noticeable. A

friend smelled excess gas coming from near mine and I was standing

same place and didn't notice. I had to put my nose right up to joints

to smell it. There shouldn't be ANY odor coming from joints and

fittings. You can also use 'suds'. Put the suds on the joint. If

bubbles start to blow up or fizzle, there is a leak. That is how most

plumbers do it apparently.

>

> > I live in an apartment that is heated by electric heat. However,

the

> > hot water tank is heated by natural gas. The hot water tank is

> > beneath my bedroom. The slight fumes from the natural gas never

> > bothered me until I was made so super sensitive by the mold

> exposure.

> > Now I'm suspecting that the natural gas is an issue. Does anyone

> have

> > an opinion about this, or experience with similar circumstances?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Get Rid of MOLD

[Guest guest]

Thanks to everyone for all the great information. I really appreciate

it. Maybe it can be dealt with and I won't have to move? That would

be great! Last night I slept on the hide-a-bed in the living room to

avoid my bedroom, what a pain.

Get Rid of Mold

[Guest guest]

This is very dangerous. Could lead to a gas spark and fire. Please contact

immediately your apartment manager and report the problem. If not immediate

action is taken, phone the gas company that services your apartment

building. They will take action.

And yes many with MCS are reactive to gas fumes.

Rosie

In , " ridofmold "

> <getridofmold@m...> wrote:

>> I live in an apartment that is heated by electric heat. However, the

>> hot water tank is heated by natural gas. The hot water tank is

>> beneath my bedroom. The slight fumes from the natural gas never

>> bothered me until I was made so super sensitive by the mold

> exposure.

>> Now I'm suspecting that the natural gas is an issue. Does anyone

> have

>> an opinion about this, or experience with similar circumstances?

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> Get Rid of MOLD

>

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[Guest guest]

I left my bedroom back June 2nd when i walked from my moldy library job. Left my

clotehs from work. Slowly took them out and got rid of them or washed them in

borax, bagged most and stored.

I still cannot go in that bedroom. Paricle board closet and computer in there. I

sleep in the room of my college aged daughter with just a metal bed and glass

table without dressers. Its safe and fine. I cant sleep in my old masterbedroom

although my husband misses taht mattress. The ecowise one though, which i had to

buy, is fine by me.

I wake up well everyday.

[] Re: Do YOU react to natural gas fumes?

Thanks to everyone for all the great information. I really appreciate

it. Maybe it can be dealt with and I won't have to move? That would

be great! Last night I slept on the hide-a-bed in the living room to

avoid my bedroom, what a pain.

Get Rid of Mold

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[Guest guest]

,

My experience agrees mostly with yours for those that are reactive to

both mold and chemicals. Because nothing is absolute, I always have

to be on the alert for the exception, but overall, if my

recommendations emphasized chemical removal the results tended to be

modest at best. However, when the focus was on stopping mold

exposure, both tended to improve.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> > and when I have gotten a heavy mold exposure I have trouble with all

> >

> kinds of chemicals I used to tolerate fine. For me it dies down after

> several days to weeks. > K.

>

>

> Now you have hit upon the very issue which made the MCS crowd so upset

> with me! I claimed that extreme mycotoxin avoidance alone modulated my

> response to other chemicals - and that after six months of concerted

> and EXTREME avoidance of mycotoxins, that my other chemical

> sensitivities disappeared.

> Instead of being interested, the MCSers just got angry and said that

> this was impossible and that nobody had ever heard of such a thing.

> And that since no one had ever heard of this, that it couldn't

> possibly be true.

> Refused to listen and didn't want to hear another word!

> It's interesting that their instant rejection of the concept was even

> more intense than the typical doctor response that " Mold Illness does

> not exist " .

>

> And I believe the MCSers are just now starting to discover how badly

> they snookered themselves. -

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Greg,

>

> In fact, I think the MCS folks really have a metabolism issue and

> they are mistakenly pointing a finger at manmade chemicals when

> nature churns way more of the same types of chemicals. These are

> generally the same people who think ozone works.

I think you should be more cautious about shoeboxing people. I have a specific

type of

ozone machine that I find is helping me in the specific way I am using it, and

yet I do not

fit the above description.

This is very interesting, and seems to sync with my reactions:

> I think three (3) areas of manmade chemicals that are problematic

> are:

>

> 1) Aldehydes (becomes acetyl aldehyde in the body)

>

> 2) Combustion byproducts

>

> 3) Oxidizers like chlorine and ozone

>

I have found that I have definite allergy (by subdermal skin test) to aldehydes,

and further

have demonstrated an anaphylactic type reaction to combustion byproducts (an

acetylene

torch). Chlorine burns my lungs, so I am cautious about using it. However, I

have an

oxidizer in my cleaning cabinet called " AtmosKlear " which is sold around here as

an odor

eliminator, and I have no reaction to it, unless I spray it, which bothers my

senstive lungs,

as does any aerosol. The ozone doesn't bother my lungs so far, but then I

studiously avoid

being around it for the most part.

K.