Re: Amygdala/Gupta, NO-O-NO/Pall

[Guest guest]

I´m using the amygdala retraining it involves NLP and hypnotherapy to help

reduce the over production of adrenaline and other chemicals the body produces.

It is excellent i feel

great compared to when i stated - i have been using it just over 2 weeks. The

root cause

may be an infection or virus in many people ( not all ) that has switched the

amygdala on

to overdrive causing a release of fight or flight chemicals in the body. For me

it so far is

excellent. I´m not a great technical expert about how it works but so far it

is working

well for me . It is NOT Cognitive

BehaviouralTherapy,ReverseTherapy,Psychotherapy,Lightning Process,Pacing therapy

http://www.cfsrecovery.com/

D.

>

> I am new to this group, though I've had severe CFS for 25+ years.

>

> I have two questions:

>

> I've been following the Amygdala Re-Training conversation and I am wondering

if those

who have tried Dr. Gupta's program could say more about the specifics of what it

involves.

I know what he's saying about the theory, but his website provides very little

in the way of

details about what his program actually has you do.

>

> I am a meditator and am familiar with a number of neurological repatterning

practices,

so I am curious about what Gupta's program consists of that may be different.

>

> His theory may or may not be psychobabble and it may or may not set the

movement

back and it may or may not help people but what I want to know is: What exactly

is it?

>

> As far as I'm concerned, theory isn't anything without practice, and I've

heard enough

theories that worked better or worse than I expected, so I want to know what his

program

IS before I'll come to any real conclusions. The theory is only half the story.

>

> I think I'm repeating myself, so I'll move on to my second question:

[Guest guest]

Sorry to chip in at the last moment, but I have been too ill to post, have tried

to catch up

on the thread when possible. I dont understand why it is considered different

to other

therapies such as lightning etc which also claim to reduce adrenalin, and how do

you know

you are over producing adrenalin?

Hayley

> >

> > I am new to this group, though I've had severe CFS for 25+ years.

> >

> > I have two questions:

> >

> > I've been following the Amygdala Re-Training conversation and I am wondering

if

those

> who have tried Dr. Gupta's program could say more about the specifics of what

it

involves.

> I know what he's saying about the theory, but his website provides very little

in the way

of

> details about what his program actually has you do.

> >

> > I am a meditator and am familiar with a number of neurological repatterning

practices,

> so I am curious about what Gupta's program consists of that may be different.

> >

> > His theory may or may not be psychobabble and it may or may not set the

movement

> back and it may or may not help people but what I want to know is: What

exactly is it?

> >

> > As far as I'm concerned, theory isn't anything without practice, and I've

heard enough

> theories that worked better or worse than I expected, so I want to know what

his

program

> IS before I'll come to any real conclusions. The theory is only half the

story.

> >

> > I think I'm repeating myself, so I'll move on to my second question:

>

[Guest guest]

Hayley

The amygdala feels under threat causing the over production of

adrenalin and cortisol and others chemicals this in turn causes

symptoms to stay with the person ie sore throat headaches anxiety

joint pain muscle pain etc etc.. I have not done any of the other

therapies so i can´t comment on the differences.But i do know that

ESTHER RANTZEN´S daughter who's mother is a very famous UK TV

personality is fully recovered from CFS / ME using the lightening

process after 14 years in a wheelchair, see here :-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/womenfamily.html?in_articl\

e_id=434248 & in_page_id=1799

>

> Sorry to chip in at the last moment, but I have been too ill to

post, have tried to catch up

> on the thread when possible. I dont understand why it is considered

different to other

> therapies such as lightning etc which also claim to reduce

adrenalin, and how do you know

> you are over producing adrenalin?

>

> Hayley

[Guest guest]

PS: At the end of the day i don´t really give care what the hell i

try as long as i get well, to me anything is worth a try in my book

and so far so good for me on this, if i don´t like the the amygdala

training or don´t think it is right for me after 6 months i can get

a 1000% refund i have nothing to lose on this.

D.

> >

> > Sorry to chip in at the last moment, but I have been too ill to

> post, have tried to catch up

> > on the thread when possible. I dont understand why it is considered

> different to other

> > therapies such as lightning etc which also claim to reduce

> adrenalin, and how do you know

> > you are over producing adrenalin?

> >

> > Hayley

>

[Guest guest]

" dawnofthedeadhere " <dawnofthedeadhere@...> wrote:

>

> Hayley

> The amygdala feels under threat causing the over production of

> adrenalin and cortisol and others chemicals this in turn causes

> symptoms to stay with the person ie sore throat headaches anxiety

> joint pain muscle pain etc etc.. I have not done any of the other

> therapies so i can´t comment on the differences.But i do know that

> ESTHER RANTZEN´S daughter who's mother is a very famous UK TV

> personality is fully recovered from CFS / ME using the lightening

> process after 14 years in a wheelchair, see here :-

>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/womenfamily.html

?in_article_id=434248 & in_page_id=1799

Says here that ditched the wheelchair back in 2001 too!

-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/womenfamily.html

?in_article_id=79042 & in_page_id=1799

[Guest guest]

Good for her ... as long as she is well & stays well who cares how she did it.

best regards.

>

> Says here that ditched the wheelchair back in 2001 too!

> -

>

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/womenfamily.html

> ?in_article_id=79042 & in_page_id=1799

>

[Guest guest]

Interesting. Note, glandular fever, which she had at 14, is more

commonly known in the US as mononucleosis.

FWIW, here's an interesting recent study on post-EBV fatigue syndrome,

and genes:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17538884

And with reference to that, in the same journal issue, the

article: " What causes prolonged fatigue after infectious mononucleosis:

and does it tell us anything about chronic fatigue syndrome? "

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17538875

FWIW: they also reference the following review, from 2002:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12392128

Recovery from infectious mononucleosis: a case for more than

symptomatic therapy? A systematic review

" Poor physical functioning, namely lengthy convalescence and being less

fit or active, consistently predicted chronic ill health. "

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/womenfamily.html

> ?in_article_id=434248 & in_page_id=1799

>

> Says here that ditched the wheelchair back in 2001 too!

> -

>

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/womenfamily.html

> ?in_article_id=79042 & in_page_id=1799

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry but I still wonder why you assume you are over producing adrenalin. You

are stating

" The amygdala feels under threat causing the over production of adrenalin and

cortisol

and others chemicals " , but have you any evidence? In the usual medical

sense I gather a dexamethasone suppressor test would identify overproduction

from the adrenal cortex?

My letter published in the Daily Mail re Esther Rantzen's daughter, following

the article

you referred to, explained my concerns about all these therapies and the poor

girl's

repeated welcoming of 'cures' that turn out not to be.

BW

Hayley

> >

> > Sorry to chip in at the last moment, but I have been too ill to

> post, have tried to catch up

> > on the thread when possible. I dont understand why it is considered

> different to other

> > therapies such as lightning etc which also claim to reduce

> adrenalin, and how do you know

> > you are over producing adrenalin?

> >

> > Hayley

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Hayley

You are best to contact info@... and they will explain in much

more

detail than i can. best wishes and get well D.

>

> Sorry but I still wonder why you assume you are over producing adrenalin. You

are

stating

> " The amygdala feels under threat causing the over production of adrenalin and

cortisol

> and others chemicals " , but have you any evidence? In the usual medical

sense I gather

a dexamethasone suppressor test would identify overproduction from the adrenal

cortex?

>

> My letter published in the Daily Mail re Esther Rantzen's daughter, following

the article

> you referred to, explained my concerns about all these therapies and the poor

girl's

> repeated welcoming of 'cures' that turn out not to be.

>

> BW

> Hayley

>

>

>