Re: MOLD - What can I inhale to treat mold infection in lungs? HELP!

[Guest guest]

Edgar,

You should get a good doctor and also, ask the people over on the

Aspergillus lists for advice. They have a lot of experience with

mycoses, which are much more common than many people think.

Its my understanding that the maintream of the medical profession has

also (finally) realized that many sinus infections are caused by fungi

and also " Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus " which is

something a doctor should look for.

You should look at the book Mold Warriors " which is written by Richie

Shoemaker, who is a doctor in land (USA) who has a lot of

experience treating people with various forms of mold-illnesses. He

also has several websites.

The most recent one is at

http://biotoxin.info

I don't know if he is using " Mucomyst " (n-acetylcysteine in a dilute

aerosolized mist) but from what I have heard its a possibile thing you

might want to ask your doctor about? I don't know much more than the

name. (I do take regular, oral, in pills NAC from time to time - when

my lungs are bothering me, it helps me breathe better - do some

reading on it, your mileage may vary, etc....)

Rinsing the sinuses with a spray made of plain saline (made with

distilled water and non-iodized salt) is also helpful. (Thats what I

do when mold in the air means my sinuses start bothering me.)

I hope that this is all helpful info! I don't have aspergillosis, as

far as I know, I do get sinus issues from mold.

If its bad mold they get really bad.

On Jan 11, 2008 4:31 PM, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:

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>

>

>

>

>

> I have an apparent mold infection in my lungs and sinuses. Does

> anyone know anything one can inhale that kills mold? I'm having a lot

> of trouble breathing, pain in lungs and deep cough. I'm sure its mold

> as it developed after being in a basement with mold.

>

> Thanks,

> Edgar

>

>

[Guest guest]

Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:

>

> I have an apparent mold infection in my lungs and sinuses. Does

> anyone know anything one can inhale that kills mold? I'm having a

lot

> of trouble breathing, pain in lungs and deep cough. I'm sure its

mold

> as it developed after being in a basement with mold.

>

> Thanks,

> Edgar

>

If there is an easy way out of this, I haven't found it.

Nor have I seen compelling evidence that others are spraying this, or

taking that, and experiencing miraculous recoveries.

The people that I have personally seen are fighting for their very

lives - sleeping in their cars - going to the desert - living in a

tent.

Without " getting clear " of these mold toxins, the slightest trace

seems to keep the immune system interminably paralyzed.

I have seen people surround themselves with plastic rooms and six

Hepa Filters, and not gain a fraction of the recovery that one

receives by getting to a pristine location out in the woods, the

coast, or the desert.

Since I like camping anyway, that is what I do.

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[Guest guest]

I am perscribed a compounded inhalation of ketoconizal and gentimycin.

Please don't mind the spelling.

Gail

veSimply wrote:

>

> Edgar,

>

> You should get a good doctor and also, ask the people over on the

> Aspergillus lists for advice. They have a lot of experience with

> mycoses, which are much more common than many people think.

>

> Its my understanding that the maintream of the medical profession has

> also (finally) realized that many sinus infections are caused by fungi

> and also " Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus " which is

> something a doctor should look for.

>

> You should look at the book Mold Warriors " which is written by Richie

> Shoemaker, who is a doctor in land (USA) who has a lot of

> experience treating people with various forms of mold-illnesses. He

> also has several websites.

>

> The most recent one is at

>

> http://biotoxin.info <http://biotoxin.info>

>

> I don't know if he is using " Mucomyst " (n-acetylcysteine in a dilute

> aerosolized mist) but from what I have heard its a possibile thing you

> might want to ask your doctor about? I don't know much more than the

> name. (I do take regular, oral, in pills NAC from time to time - when

> my lungs are bothering me, it helps me breathe better - do some

> reading on it, your mileage may vary, etc....)

>

> Rinsing the sinuses with a spray made of plain saline (made with

> distilled water and non-iodized salt) is also helpful. (Thats what I

> do when mold in the air means my sinuses start bothering me.)

>

> I hope that this is all helpful info! I don't have aspergillosis, as

> far as I know, I do get sinus issues from mold.

> If its bad mold they get really bad.

>

> On Jan 11, 2008 4:31 PM, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...

> <mailto:edgarowen%40att.net>> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I have an apparent mold infection in my lungs and sinuses. Does

> > anyone know anything one can inhale that kills mold? I'm having a lot

> > of trouble breathing, pain in lungs and deep cough. I'm sure its mold

> > as it developed after being in a basement with mold.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Edgar

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Gail,

Thanks for the info. Were you diagnosed for mold infection in lungs,

if not what? Did this med work for you?

Thanks,

Edgar

On Jan 12, 2008, at 5:06 AM, Gail Ilse-Mayberry wrote:

> I am perscribed a compounded inhalation of ketoconizal and gentimycin.

> Please don't mind the spelling.

> Gail

>

> veSimply wrote:

> >

> > Edgar,

> >

> > You should get a good doctor and also, ask the people over on the

> > Aspergillus lists for advice. They have a lot of experience with

> > mycoses, which are much more common than many people think.

> >

> > Its my understanding that the maintream of the medical profession

> has

> > also (finally) realized that many sinus infections are caused by

> fungi

> > and also " Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus " which is

> > something a doctor should look for.

> >

> > You should look at the book Mold Warriors " which is written by

> Richie

> > Shoemaker, who is a doctor in land (USA) who has a lot of

> > experience treating people with various forms of mold-illnesses. He

> > also has several websites.

> >

> > The most recent one is at

> >

> > http://biotoxin.info <http://biotoxin.info>

> >

> > I don't know if he is using " Mucomyst " (n-acetylcysteine in a dilute

> > aerosolized mist) but from what I have heard its a possibile

> thing you

> > might want to ask your doctor about? I don't know much more than the

> > name. (I do take regular, oral, in pills NAC from time to time -

> when

> > my lungs are bothering me, it helps me breathe better - do some

> > reading on it, your mileage may vary, etc....)

> >

> > Rinsing the sinuses with a spray made of plain saline (made with

> > distilled water and non-iodized salt) is also helpful. (Thats what I

> > do when mold in the air means my sinuses start bothering me.)

> >

> > I hope that this is all helpful info! I don't have aspergillosis, as

> > far as I know, I do get sinus issues from mold.

> > If its bad mold they get really bad.

> >

> > On Jan 11, 2008 4:31 PM, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...

> > <mailto:edgarowen%40att.net>> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have an apparent mold infection in my lungs and sinuses. Does

> > > anyone know anything one can inhale that kills mold? I'm having

> a lot

> > > of trouble breathing, pain in lungs and deep cough. I'm sure

> its mold

> > > as it developed after being in a basement with mold.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Edgar

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Getting your glutathione levels up by various means seems to be

extremely important for recovery from any of these diseases.

NAC, whey protein, antioxidants, etc. All are helpful But if you are

the way you say you are first you should see a good pulmonologist.

Also, get away from mold. That is crucially important.

[Guest guest]

LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

>

> Getting your glutathione levels up by various means seems to be

> extremely important for recovery from any of these diseases.

>

> NAC, whey protein, antioxidants, etc. All are helpful But if you are

> the way you say you are first you should see a good pulmonologist.

>

> Also, get away from mold. That is crucially important.

>

Traditionally, as one watches a mold sufferer gradually reorganize

their emphasis on priorities - one will observe that last statement

will be moved to the very top of the list.

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[Guest guest]

I had 5 sinus surgeries in 19years. Since none of them ever even came

close to a cure I waited a long time between each one.

In the meantime I suffered severe asthma. In the summer of 96 I had

surgery again. This time I insisted (finally learned what I needed to

do) on a culture.

The culture grew several bacteria including psuedomonis. It also grew

several fungus including aspergillus. I was seeing a progressing CFS doc

at the time so I told him about this compound that I had used. He

perscribed it for several months after the surgery and I can get a

perscription anytime I have an infectious flare. I believe it was the

combo of surgery, oral antibiotics and antifungals and the inhaled

compound that made the difference. I turned a corner. I no longer have

asthma after 20 years. I still am not 100% and still have CFS but I am

so much better. I still crave sugar and feel better without it so I

probably still have the fungus... but at least I am not being treated

like it is all in the head.

Edgar Owen wrote:

>

> Gail,

>

> Thanks for the info. Were you diagnosed for mold infection in lungs,

> if not what? Did this med work for you?

>

> Thanks,

> Edgar

>

> On Jan 12, 2008, at 5:06 AM, Gail Ilse-Mayberry wrote:

>

> > I am perscribed a compounded inhalation of ketoconizal and gentimycin.

> > Please don't mind the spelling.

> > Gail

> >

> > veSimply wrote:

> > >

> > > Edgar,

> > >

> > > You should get a good doctor and also, ask the people over on the

> > > Aspergillus lists for advice. They have a lot of experience with

> > > mycoses, which are much more common than many people think.

> > >

> > > Its my understanding that the maintream of the medical profession

> > has

> > > also (finally) realized that many sinus infections are caused by

> > fungi

> > > and also " Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus " which is

> > > something a doctor should look for.

> > >

> > > You should look at the book Mold Warriors " which is written by

> > Richie

> > > Shoemaker, who is a doctor in land (USA) who has a lot of

> > > experience treating people with various forms of mold-illnesses. He

> > > also has several websites.

> > >

> > > The most recent one is at

> > >

> > > http://biotoxin.info <http://biotoxin.info> <http://biotoxin.info

> <http://biotoxin.info>>

> > >

> > > I don't know if he is using " Mucomyst " (n-acetylcysteine in a dilute

> > > aerosolized mist) but from what I have heard its a possibile

> > thing you

> > > might want to ask your doctor about? I don't know much more than the

> > > name. (I do take regular, oral, in pills NAC from time to time -

> > when

> > > my lungs are bothering me, it helps me breathe better - do some

> > > reading on it, your mileage may vary, etc....)

> > >

> > > Rinsing the sinuses with a spray made of plain saline (made with

> > > distilled water and non-iodized salt) is also helpful. (Thats what I

> > > do when mold in the air means my sinuses start bothering me.)

> > >

> > > I hope that this is all helpful info! I don't have aspergillosis, as

> > > far as I know, I do get sinus issues from mold.

> > > If its bad mold they get really bad.

> > >

> > > On Jan 11, 2008 4:31 PM, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...

> <mailto:edgarowen%40att.net>

> > > <mailto:edgarowen%40att.net>> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have an apparent mold infection in my lungs and sinuses. Does

> > > > anyone know anything one can inhale that kills mold? I'm having

> > a lot

> > > > of trouble breathing, pain in lungs and deep cough. I'm sure

> > its mold

> > > > as it developed after being in a basement with mold.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Edgar

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is what I saw repeatedly in mold victims. They would have these

surgeries to address the existing problem and yet doctors would make

no serious effort to find out why these fungal infections are getting

out of control in so many people.

I discussed this with friends of Mark Tatum, " The Man Without A

Face " . He sufferered from an inexplicable Mucormycosis infection

which created so much damage that he literally had no face left.

I suggested Stachy exposure as a source of immunosuppression. They

had Dr Lipsey test the house and this appeared to be the

case. Mark Tatum contacted me and said that he had located other

similar cases to his, and in each case, the doctors were glad to do

any amounts of life-saving surgery - but never try to get to the

bottom of why this was happening.

He was furious at this strange " disconnect " in doctors attitudes.

And after all these years of having doctors and researchers

literally turn and run when I tried to tell them about

this " mycotoxin connection " , I can't help but feel that, as a

profession, they have utterly failed their scientific responsibility

to employ their specialized knowledge that leads the public to expect

that they would be the first to detect and warn us, if something went

wrong.

We were misled into a false sense of security by trusting that

our " intelligentsia " would act decisively in the face of emerging

anomalies.

-

Gail Ilse-Mayberry <gmilsem@...> wrote:

>

> I had 5 sinus surgeries in 19years. Since none of them ever even

came close to a cure I waited a long time between each one.

> In the meantime I suffered severe asthma. In the summer of 96 I had

> surgery again. This time I insisted (finally learned what I needed

to

> do) on a culture.

> The culture grew several bacteria including psuedomonis. It also

grew

> several fungus including aspergillus. I was seeing a progressing

CFS doc

> at the time so I told him about this compound that I had used. He

> perscribed it for several months after the surgery and I can get a

> perscription anytime I have an infectious flare. I believe it was

the

> combo of surgery, oral antibiotics and antifungals and the inhaled

> compound that made the difference. I turned a corner. I no longer

have

> asthma after 20 years. I still am not 100% and still have CFS but I

am

> so much better. I still crave sugar and feel better without it so I

> probably still have the fungus... but at least I am not being

treated

> like it is all in the head.

>

> Edgar Owen wrote:

> >

> > Gail,

> >

> > Thanks for the info. Were you diagnosed for mold infection in

lungs,

> > if not what? Did this med work for you?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Edgar

> >

> > On Jan 12, 2008, at 5:06 AM, Gail Ilse-Mayberry wrote:

> >

> > > I am perscribed a compounded inhalation of ketoconizal and

gentimycin.

> > > Please don't mind the spelling.

> > > Gail

> > >

> > > veSimply wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Edgar,

> > > >

> > > > You should get a good doctor and also, ask the people over on

the

> > > > Aspergillus lists for advice. They have a lot of experience

with

> > > > mycoses, which are much more common than many people think.

> > > >

> > > > Its my understanding that the maintream of the medical

profession

> > > has

> > > > also (finally) realized that many sinus infections are caused

by

> > > fungi

> > > > and also " Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus " which

is

> > > > something a doctor should look for.

> > > >

> > > > You should look at the book Mold Warriors " which is written by

> > > Richie

> > > > Shoemaker, who is a doctor in land (USA) who has a lot of

> > > > experience treating people with various forms of mold-

illnesses. He

> > > > also has several websites.

> > > >

> > > > The most recent one is at

> > > >

> > > > http://biotoxin.info <http://biotoxin.info>

<http://biotoxin.info

> > <http://biotoxin.info>>

> > > >

> > > > I don't know if he is using " Mucomyst " (n-acetylcysteine in a

dilute

> > > > aerosolized mist) but from what I have heard its a possibile

> > > thing you

> > > > might want to ask your doctor about? I don't know much more

than the

> > > > name. (I do take regular, oral, in pills NAC from time to

time -

> > > when

> > > > my lungs are bothering me, it helps me breathe better - do

some

> > > > reading on it, your mileage may vary, etc....)

> > > >

> > > > Rinsing the sinuses with a spray made of plain saline (made

with

> > > > distilled water and non-iodized salt) is also helpful. (Thats

what I

> > > > do when mold in the air means my sinuses start bothering me.)

> > > >

> > > > I hope that this is all helpful info! I don't have

aspergillosis, as

> > > > far as I know, I do get sinus issues from mold.

> > > > If its bad mold they get really bad.

> > > >

> > > > On Jan 11, 2008 4:31 PM, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...

> > <mailto:edgarowen%40att.net>

> > > > <mailto:edgarowen%40att.net>> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I have an apparent mold infection in my lungs and sinuses.

Does

> > > > > anyone know anything one can inhale that kills mold? I'm

having

> > > a lot

> > > > > of trouble breathing, pain in lungs and deep cough. I'm sure

> > > its mold

> > > > > as it developed after being in a basement with mold.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > Edgar

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Mucormycosis often does that. It starts in the sinuses, then eats away

at the eye, and eventually the whole nose and face. When I was a

teenager I knew a (brilliant) blind kid who still lived with his

parents who had had a fungal infection (it was probably mucor) destroy

the sight in both his eyes. He had a fake face, but he was still

incrediby smart. He could not go out in public so he stayed home and

became incredibly adept at technology.

This was before the Internet or even personal computers existed.

However, he was there at the beginning, in fact, he bought one of the

very, very first Apple computers. At that point it was just a circuit

board. He bought it directly from the two Steves. (They were on a road

trip to show them off.)

There was still an active infection in his face, so I guess it was not

completely healed. he had tubes that drained out of it. He would not

let people outside of his family see what he looked like there.

He and his family told people that he had had cancer. I don't know

what happened to him. It was a long time ago, If he is still alive, I

bet he is still a computer geek. Even though he is blind.

[Guest guest]

LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote:

>

> Mucormycosis often does that. It starts in the sinuses, then eats away

> at the eye, and eventually the whole nose and face.

Actually, given the incredible prevalance of mucor, and all the

opportunities it would surely have... it RARELY does that.

So the question is, why does something so common only do it under

certain conditions, while not NORMALLY doing this?

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[Guest guest]

how to test for murcormycosis?

what lab, test panel

any docs like this in S Ca?

thanks, Amy