Dubbo too/Re: Amygdala Retraining / Prof Wessely is RIGHT

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Cattttttt@... wrote:

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> My CFS started with CMV. I tried the training on my vacation

while I was

> off from work. At first it worked. I took NONE of my meds, and was

able to

> sleep, felt fine. Then, I started getting sick.

***This example of failure from this treatment will be the

overwhelming typical response to any treatment born from this very

questionable hypothesis for CFS, which completely lacks scientific

data to support it. It will fail actual CFS cases after some feeling

a bit of improvement in the start that later fizzles.

***If someday cure ever does come about and stick from such treatment,

then I'll be the first to acknowledge it. But the truth is actual CFS

is a persistent primary infection of some sort, most likely viral from

my observation, which is exacerbated further by things that challenge

the detox system unique to the individual(e.g., mold in some,

opportunistic bacteria in the next person and other things in others).

***The " post " infectious symptoms assumption for actual CFS is bogus

and perpetuated by ill founded CFS research like that done by the

Dubbo studies and Dr Lloyd that only tracked a small number of

post verified EBV cases, which CFS has never been proven to be. Post

verified EBV symptoms are really just a form of super common chronic

fatigue(CF) I suspect and not actual CFS, given CMV and HHV-6

infection also can produce a positive monospot test that falsely

causes the uneducated doctor to assume an EBV mono diagnosis.

***This is a profound weakness in the attempt to connect

Dr Lloyd's research results to CFS. Another tip-off is 80% of

Dr Lloyd's research samples are completely recovered within the first

of year of symptom onset and the rest are recovered by year two.

***That sounds like super common CF that could be brought by any one

of several means to my ears, including reactive depression, but not

CFS. CFS is a completely different animal.

***Core CFS pathology and it's persistance is both unrelated and

utterly independent of thoughts, thought processes, emotions and

behavior. Like any serious disease one will have a variety of

thoughts, thought processes, emotions and behaviors in reaction to it,

but these held as the cause of the disease are simply unverified

beliefs and unchecked assumptions about the core pathology, nothing more.

***There's no scientific data to support them as causal in CFS. Core

CFS pathology and it's symptoms will not be conquered by treatments

aimed at altering these things.

***These treatments are not where the chase is for curing this disease

and cure is what's appropriate.

***