Re: ME/CFS MCS and how it all fits together?

[Guest guest]

> Can anyone offer some suggestions?

>

, what thyroid meds were you taking? I am going to take a

wild guess and say, cytomel. What tests were run to see if you need

thryoid hormone replacement?

a Carnes

[Guest guest]

Hi a, no I was/am taking compounded medicine - Thyroid Extract, and in

addition, T3. I had the freeT3 and T4 tests and the reverse T3. I'm just taking

the Thyroid Extract at present, having found the T3 now too much. When I see the

doctor in a week's time I'll have more tests. I haven't had any for a year. At

that point I was taking the T3 only, and both T3 and T4 were in the low range.

Re: ME/CFS MCS and hypothyroidism - how it all

fits together?

> Can anyone offer some suggestions?

>

, what thyroid meds were you taking? I am going to take a

wild guess and say, cytomel. What tests were run to see if you need

thryoid hormone replacement?

a Carnes

[Guest guest]

,

You may find this interesting (as I have)... www.wilsonsyndrome.com

Esp. about sustained-release T-3.

Joanna

a CFS-er looking for answers

>

> Hi a, no I was/am taking compounded medicine - Thyroid Extract,

and in addition, T3. I had the freeT3 and T4 tests and the reverse

T3. I'm just taking the Thyroid Extract at present, having found the

T3 now too much. When I see the doctor in a week's time I'll have

more tests. I haven't had any for a year. At that point I was taking

the T3 only, and both T3 and T4 were in the low range.

> Re: ME/CFS MCS and hypothyroidism -

how it all fits together?

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> > Can anyone offer some suggestions?

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> , what thyroid meds were you taking? I am going to take

a

> wild guess and say, cytomel. What tests were run to see if you

need

> thryoid hormone replacement?

>

> a Carnes

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[Guest guest]

I have no idea about how thyroid and MCS go together but have you seen Grace

Ziems site on MCS? A very different protocol and it looks like one you could put

together yourself. I hope to try it sometime.

<infinity2@...> wrote: Hi a, no I was/am taking

compounded medicine - Thyroid Extract, and in addition, T3. I had the freeT3 and

T4 tests and the reverse T3. I'm just taking the Thyroid Extract at present,

having found the T3 now too much. When I see the doctor in a week's time I'll

have more tests. I haven't had any for a year. At that point I was taking the T3

only, and both T3 and T4 were in the low range.

Re: ME/CFS MCS and hypothyroidism - how it all fits

together?

> Can anyone offer some suggestions?

>

, what thyroid meds were you taking? I am going to take a

wild guess and say, cytomel. What tests were run to see if you need

thryoid hormone replacement?

a Carnes

[Guest guest]

The toxins, in addition to inhibiting cell function, have invaded the central

nervous system and injured deep brain structures, especially the hypothalamus,

resulting in problems with virtually every hormone in the body. Cheney's

theory.

cort johnson <cortttt@...> wrote: I have no idea about how thyroid and

MCS go together but have you seen Grace Ziems site on MCS? A very different

protocol and it looks like one you could put together yourself. I hope to try it

sometime.

wrote: Hi a, no I was/am taking compounded medicine - Thyroid

Extract, and in addition, T3. I had the freeT3 and T4 tests and the reverse T3.

I'm just taking the Thyroid Extract at present, having found the T3 now too

much. When I see the doctor in a week's time I'll have more tests. I haven't had

any for a year. At that point I was taking the T3 only, and both T3 and T4 were

in the low range.

Re: ME/CFS MCS and hypothyroidism - how it all fits

together?

> Can anyone offer some suggestions?

>

, what thyroid meds were you taking? I am going to take a

wild guess and say, cytomel. What tests were run to see if you need

thryoid hormone replacement?

a Carnes

[Guest guest]

I haven't heard of her before Cort. I'm just downloading the site now. Thanks!

Re: ME/CFS MCS and hypothyroidism - how it all

fits together?

> Can anyone offer some suggestions?

>

, what thyroid meds were you taking? I am going to take a

wild guess and say, cytomel. What tests were run to see if you need

thryoid hormone replacement?

a Carnes

[Guest guest]

I was put on Cytomel for a " low normal " thyroid, and I feel that it contributed

to excessive bone loss. I am 59 and have the bones of an 85 year old. Thanks

doc for making my life worse not better.

Judi

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[Guest guest]

Judith Armbruster <jarm1948@...> wrote:

>

> I was put on Cytomel for a " low normal " thyroid,

> and I feel that it contributed to excessive bone loss.

> I am 59 and have the bones of an 85 year old.

> Thanks doc for making my life worse not better.

> Judi

Cytomel is a T3 med.

I have to wonder what your free-T3 was before and during this

usage, and whether it was being monitored.

Cytomel is rarely given by itself for simple hypothyroid,

sometimes a tiny amount is added to a T4 med, or Cytomel alone

is occasionally used in special situations such as FM,

's, or post-thyroidectomy or post-RAI where other

thyroid meds didn't do as well. Before T3 is given alone,

other thyroid meds are usually tried first.

Low-normal thyroid would normally be tx with a synthetic T4

med, expecting you to convert T4 to T3 normally. If that

wasn't fully successful, then add some T3 med to go with the

T4, or go to a combination natural porcine T4/T3 med such as

Armour thyroid (which has a higher proportion of T3 in it

than human thyroid).

So much can conspire to deplete bone density by age 59,

including low sex hormones, high inflammation with its

high cytokines and high MMPs, lack of impact exercise,

lack of various nutrients including Vit D, calcium, mag, copper

and boron, low body weight, sedentary lifestyle, too much

thyroid hormone, too much cortisol, parathyroid issues, too

much Vit A, etc. I'll have an article on this subject soon.

Carol Willis

Jan. 18, 2008

willis_protocols

cbwillis9@...

[Guest guest]

That stinks Judi. Any quick fix will do, but you have the long term effects to

deal with. It gets me how they slander alternative medicine and yet don't seem

to have to be accountable for the damage they do on a daily basis. Certain

supplements have been banned, deemed dangerous, and yet you can be given a drug

like that. It's criminal.

Re: ME/CFS MCS and hypothyroidism - how it all

fits together?

I was put on Cytomel for a " low normal " thyroid, and I feel that it

contributed to excessive bone loss. I am 59 and have the bones of an 85 year

old. Thanks doc for making my life worse not better.

Judi

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