Re: The Avoidance Lifestyle

[Guest guest]

> With the right combination of tools and skills, one can lead a

> remarkably normal appearing life with amazing amount of control over

> their symptoms - right in between narrow zones of spore plumes where

> no mold reactive person could otherwise remain without

> falling " under the power curve of exposure " .

Well, I certainly worked for me, though at this point I have to say

that I have difficulty determining the locations of the spore plumes

you have referred to so many times. I just crudely stay out of

buildings that set me off, and try to not cross-contaminate my other

belongings. I am not at the level of insight you are yet, obviously.

Maybe you are on track for a book on avoidance techniques, ? It

sounds like you have all the material together already.

However, I think I also needs to be said that the exposure-mediated

response and recovery that and I experience may not be shared by

everyone in this group. After reading Dr. Shoemakers " Mold Warriors " ,

I am now aware that there are numerous genotypes that may exhibit

different reactions to exposures, including not having inflammatory

responses shut off at all, despite removal from exposures to toxins.

For this population, Dr. Shoemaker and his research partners are

developing new treatments. I have spoken to several people on this

board who are not seeing optimal results with either avoidance or

Cholestyramine, but are being helped by metabolic modulators like

Actos and Procrit. The effects of biotoxin poisonings on the human

immune system are complex, and reversal of their damages will require

insightful research. The good news is, this is getting there rapidly

-- I have hope that everyone on this listgroup can recover full health

in the near future. Still, overall, it's obviously good to avoid

further exposures, even at minute levels.

We must continue to fight against the partisan political opposition to

recognition of our suffering. In the long run, the health of the

people outwieghs any short term costs to society.

There are too many of us to ignore any longer.

Lee

[Guest guest]

--- I just crudely stay out of

> buildings that set me off, and try to not cross-contaminate my

other belongings. I am not at the level of insight you are yet,

obviously. Maybe you are on track for a book on avoidance

techniques, ? It sounds like you have all the material together

already.

>

> However, I think I also needs to be said that the exposure-mediated

> response and recovery that and I experience may not be shared

by everyone in this group. After reading Dr. Shoemakers " Mold

Warriors " ,

> I am now aware that there are numerous genotypes that may exhibit

> different reactions to exposures, including not having inflammatory

> responses shut off at all, despite removal from exposures to

toxins.

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, you bet I worked my butt off to exploit every clue I could

get! Any my decon module has been the perfect " test bed " for making

these observations.

People have always instantly dismissed my stories of using my

perception since they believe that " If something were to be

percieved, I'd already know about it " . But as you can see, people

can die in a moldy building and show virtually every sign of

mycotoxin illness and yet be completely oblivious.

Bailing out of a " mold slam " is automatic and what I refer to

as " unconscious avoidance " because it can be conducted as a natural

human response.

MycoPerception is an acquired skill.

I took my experiment down to the lowest observable abnormalities

that I could identify - and I use them all!

While genetic makeup and responses do vary, the common denominator

to the toxin response is capillary hypoperfusion.

Ask Dr Shoemaker about the clue to " Check your socks " .

-

[Guest guest]

> to the toxin response is capillary hypoperfusion.

what is that?

> Ask Dr Shoemaker about the clue to " Check your socks " .

and this?

[Guest guest]

" " wrote:

> check your socks? huh?

Yeah!

The first argument people use to dispute the avoidance concept

is " If I were reactive to something - I would surely know it and do

not need anyone to teach me about my own body and responses " .

Perhaps. But if you look at the stories of mold victims, the

consistent theme is that almost NOBODY was able to perceive it -

even when pushed to the point of mortal illness.

So the next argument is " Well, then your avoidance concept is based

upon your " special sensitivity " which I do not have, so your concept

is useless for anyone else " .

Maybe. But if you look at my story in Mold Warriors, you can see

that I wasn't able to perceive mold any better than other people

until I took a sample of Stachy to a pristine location and TRAINED

myself to recognize the subtle signs of reactivity.

....And to respond to those subtle signs as if they were " mold slams "

BEFORE my immune system was driven into a damaging over-response.

One of the signs I discerned was a consistent correlation between

almost imperceptible exposures to mold and hypoperfusion of the

tissues.

The imprint left by socks and watchbands is an extremely good

indicator of the state of capillary perfusion.

You can verify this with a simple test.

If you're feeling fairly decent before entering a known sick

location, check your socks and whatever markings or indentations are

in your skin - remember exactly how it looks.

After known exposure to mold, check the indentations again.

An exposure that significantly alters the impression left by

clothing and impacts the indentations which indicate perfusion is an

exposure that has deprived your body of oxygen.

How profoundly the indentations change is an indicator of the degree

of oxygen deprivation.

For some reason, the ankles appear to be an area that is

exceptionallly responsive to changes in perfusion and lends itself

to this type of test.

So that's why I tell people to " check your socks " when you are

looking for a reaction to mold.

Strange place to look, but that's how it is.

People rarely get to the point where they wish to hear details like

this. The usual dismissal response is " Perceive and avoid? That's

too easy - if it were true, it would have been done by now " .

I didn't say this was easy.

-

[Guest guest]

> > check your socks? huh?

>

It is funny how you say check your socks. After moving out of one

moldy place and moving into another place I returned to the first home

after a year to take a sample of the mold. The people let me in and

the mold was still growing like crazy. I had gloves and a mask and

pants, socks, etc on. I took the sample and returned home. Upon

getting home and changing my clothes my legs had a rash from the knees

down to my ankles. The result of the sample turned out to be

stachybotrys, and all the others including yeasts from one sample. The

other place has aspergilllus, and many others.

[Guest guest]

Thank you, .

So, in my past, when I was diagnosed as allergic to dairy and wheat by skin

pricks on the

back, I had to give them up- not easy, since I craved them, I thought they were

among the

most delicious foods. This is a common paradox. Takes the idea of perception a

step

further.

....only after avoiding them for 2 weeks or so in every form was I able to

distinguish a

negative reaction. This is a standard technique of food allergy diagnosis, but

the time

factor is varible per person. When I got sick from something it sometimes took

several

days for my system to calm down again to the point where I could proceed with

the

testing. I was doing a food allergy elimination diet, a more complicated one (I

really

wanted to know).

> Perhaps. But if you look at the stories of mold victims, the

> consistent theme is that almost NOBODY was able to perceive it -

> even when pushed to the point of mortal illness.

> The imprint left by socks and watchbands is an extremely good

> indicator of the state of capillary perfusion.

I have not been able to wear a wrist watch for years.....metal sensitiveity or

something...

> For some reason, the ankles appear to be an area that is

> exceptionallly responsive to changes in perfusion and lends itself

> to this type of test.

This happens to my face when I have to wear my hepa mask traveling. Now I know

why-

less oxygen. But at least it also keeps me more well.