Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Does anyone here know why low pressure worsens my muscle pain, fatigue and cognitive problems? I can always tell when rain is on the way, by how I feel. Is this common with CFS and/or Fibro.? What causes this? Thank you!! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hi Sue, Here is one possible explanation/theory. According to gas laws, a gas is evenly distributed in a container. The earths atmosphere is a container that holds the gases that make up the air that we breathe. According to gas laws, there is just as much oxygen in the air at the top of mount everest as there is oxygen in the air at sea level. The reason that the mountain climber must supply oxygen is that the air pressure at that altitude restricts the transfer of oxygen from the lungs into the blood. So to answer your question why your symptoms worsen during periods of low pressure, the oxygen transfer to the blood is going to be reduced. This effect will affect all people, and the difference in oxygen uptake is probably very minute but to a person whose body is already oxygen deprived due to low blood volume and other factors, it is a straw that breaks the camels back. Sometimes humid climates can have a similar effect, as the moisture in the air can also interfere with oxygen transfer. All the best, Jim > > Does anyone here know why low pressure worsens my muscle pain, fatigue > and cognitive problems? I can always tell when rain is on the way, by > how I feel. Is this common with CFS and/or Fibro.? What causes this? > > Thank you!! > > Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Nice concise and excellent explanation for why this likely happens, Jim. And to note for those with skeptical docs about the serious physical abnormalities in CFS, remember this test name: " Blood Volume/Red Blood Cell(RBC) Mass Chromium 51 Nuclear Tracer " for accurately measuring these. I've tested anormally low in both measures with it and Dr Bell says about 80% of PWCs test abnormally low, confirming the surprising low oxygen availability in our bodies. And it's a mainstream medical test in which the results CAN'T honestly be denied. I also suspect the problems many in CFS have with their lower brain function including the hippocampus, amygdala and basal ganglia can be explained by hypoxic injury to these structures in addition to cortisol injury that may occurred in some prior to full CFS onset. It's no wonder really why we're dysfunctional and feel bad, variabilities to this in certain situations withstanding. <clements@...> wrote: Hi Sue, Here is one possible explanation/theory. According to gas laws, a gas is evenly distributed in a container. The earths atmosphere is a container that holds the gases that make up the air that we breathe. According to gas laws, there is just as much oxygen in the air at the top of mount everest as there is oxygen in the air at sea level. The reason that the mountain climber must supply oxygen is that the air pressure at that altitude restricts the transfer of oxygen from the lungs into the blood. So to answer your question why your symptoms worsen during periods of low pressure, the oxygen transfer to the blood is going to be reduced.This effect will affect all people, and the difference in oxygenuptake is probably very minute but to a person whose body is already oxygen deprived due to low blood volume and other factors, it is a straw that breaks the camels back. Sometimes humid climates can have a similar effect, as the moisture in the air can also interfere with oxygen transfer. <sb2boys@> wrote: Does anyone here know why low pressure worsens my muscle pain, fatigue and cognitive problems? I can always tell when rain is on the way, by how I feel. Is this common with CFS and/or Fibro.? What causes this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 > Does anyone here know why low pressure worsens my muscle pain, fatigue > and cognitive problems? I can always tell when rain is on the way, by > how I feel. Is this common with CFS and/or Fibro.? What causes this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hi , Thanks for the info about and name of this test! Did these test results help you get SS or other disability? (I've just applied and am searching for concrete tests to help my case.) Also, is this a test any mainstream doc can order? Any other info you might have is greatly appreciated (price, labs who do it, etc.). thanks, Joanna > > Nice concise and excellent explanation for why this likely happens, > Jim. And to note for those with skeptical docs about the serious > physical abnormalities in CFS, remember this test name: " Blood > Volume/Red Blood Cell(RBC) Mass Chromium 51 Nuclear Tracer " for > accurately measuring these. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Hi, Joanna. <jphillips2@...> wrote: > > Hi , > > Thanks for the info about and name of this test! Did these test > results help you get SS or other disability? (I've just applied and > am searching for concrete tests to help my case.) ***No. I got approved for SSDI without it, but it certainly would've helped that process happen faster with such evidence in hand. > > Also, is this a test any mainstream doc can order? ***Yes. Any other info you > might have is greatly appreciated (price, labs who do it, etc.). ***Getting your EBV or HHV-6 virus titers ordered through FOCUS labs might prove benefitial. A lot of PWCs show abnormally high titers for each in test results(I don't know the price to have them run now). ***Then, if you can somehow manage it through insurance coverage you have now, get a SPECT Scan of your brain done and have them look for hypoperfusion(low blood flow). This would fit hand in glove with proven low blood volume/low RBCs, thus indicating likely hypoxic(low oxygen) injury to the brain, particularly lower brain structures like the hippocampus(MRS brain studies indicate this in CFS too). ***I think such injury is rarely talked about for PWCs, but may indeed be very significant, perhaps even central, to the serious debility we experience. Heal it and YOU WIN THIS GAME!(please let me know if you do too as I'd like to win as well thanks, > > Joanna *** <david-hall@> wrote: > > And to note for those with skeptical docs about the serious > > physical abnormalities in CFS, remember this test name: " Blood > > Volume/Red Blood Cell(RBC) Mass Chromium 51 Nuclear Tracer " for > > accurately measuring these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 , Thanks so much for your kind and helpful reply! I will see what I can do about getting those tests to help my case. I must say that being a member of this group and others has made a qualitative difference in my life already.. I don't feel alone or w/o support, plus I've learned a lot by just reading posts. Thanks to Ken and to all who not only try to help themselves but others too by posting. God bless, Joanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Yes, brain damage is central to this illness. This causes the neurological dysfunction in which the CNS control of many other body systems goes wrong, leading to the multiple symptoms. My understanding is that SPECT, PET, MRI, QEEG etc. tests can reveal these brain injuries. However, I was not aware that this brain damage can be HEALED. Can it?? Do you mean by healed by the brain's own self-healing mechanism (e.g. building new neural pathways after brain lesions), or do you mean healed by medical intervention? The idea of healing the brain damage seems like a ray of hope! Best wishes, Lesley P.S. A bit further back in this thread, though I've forgotten who said what (sorry): I also experience worsening of my symptoms when rain or storms are on the way. Thanks for the great explanation of high-altitude low blood oxygen - and yes, in humid conditions the enervated exhausted feeling, and the feeling of needing more air, can be just the same. > > ***I think such injury is rarely talked about for PWCs, but may indeed > be very significant, perhaps even central, to the serious debility we > experience. Heal it and YOU WIN THIS GAME!(please let me know if you > do too as I'd like to win as well > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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