Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 I was thinking after reading a post about cytokines and cfids and then also that some believe that heart issues tie into cfids, diastolic issues---well wouldnt ace inhibitors make sense for those issues? has anyone tried them? I have a p450 issue so I can't tolerate a lot of supplements and meds unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 > > I was thinking after reading a post about cytokines and cfids and then > also that some believe that heart issues tie into cfids, diastolic > issues---well wouldnt ace inhibitors make sense for those issues? > has anyone tried them? I have a p450 issue so I can't tolerate a lot > of supplements and meds unfortunately. > Gee, I am not familiar with ACE inhibitors but I found this article the other day that I found interesting about cytokines. Kind of low technology but if it helps. I found something else about cytokines but can't find it. I will keep looking. Marti " A. Sullivan, C Nord, B. Evengard. Effect of supplement with lactic-acid producing bacteria on fatigue and physical activity in patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (poster). In a recent edition of Phoenix Rising we saw Lactobaccillus acidophillus (LA) bacteria improve immune functioning in people with overtraining syndrome (click here). Here Dr. Sullivan states that LA can 'normalize the cytokine profile' and has anti-oxidative effects. In this conference we have seen increasing evidence that if CFS is not an inflammatory disease, that it at least has a strong inflammatory component. These researchers gave a probiotic product (Cultura Dofilus Natural Yoghurt, Arla Foods) to 15 CFS patients for 30 days and found that 40% of them reported improvement. If this is simply a yogurt product its interesting that such a weak formulation would be helpful; lactobaccillus capsules, which are readily available in health food stores, contain far more probiotics than does yogurt. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Yea I have low b/p always too and had the tilt in '95 and had nmh after they admin the stimulant but, they treated people with florinef and beta blockers, I didnt respond well to either of those but some people i know did get some help from them even with low b/p I think its one of those things where the med helps in one way but could hurt in another LIke usual unfortunately > > > > > > I was thinking after reading a post about cytokines and cfids and then > > > also that some believe that heart issues tie into cfids, diastolic > > > issues---well wouldnt ace inhibitors make sense for those issues? > > > has anyone tried them? I have a p450 issue so I can't tolerate a lot > > > of supplements and meds unfortunately. > > > > > > > Gee, I am not familiar with ACE inhibitors but I found this article the > > other day that I found interesting about cytokines. > > > > Kind of low technology but if it helps. I found something else about > > cytokines but can't find it. I will keep looking. > > > > Marti > > > > " A. Sullivan, C Nord, B. Evengard. Effect of supplement with lactic-acid > > producing bacteria on fatigue and physical activity in patients with > > Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (poster). > > > > In a recent edition of Phoenix Rising we saw Lactobaccillus acidophillus > > (LA) bacteria improve immune functioning in people with overtraining > > syndrome (click here). Here Dr. Sullivan states that LA can 'normalize > > the cytokine profile' and has anti-oxidative effects. In this conference > > we have seen increasing evidence that if CFS is not an inflammatory > > disease, that it at least has a strong inflammatory component. These > > researchers gave a probiotic product (Cultura Dofilus Natural Yoghurt, > > Arla Foods) to 15 CFS patients for 30 days and found that 40% of them > > reported improvement. If this is simply a yogurt product its interesting > > that such a weak formulation would be helpful; lactobaccillus capsules, > > which are readily available in health food stores, contain far more > > probiotics than does yogurt. " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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