moving

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Speak to those who have moved 4 or more times in one year, or who have only

lived out of doors. I will be moving out of doors for the second time in 16

years. Cannot breath in here, or think! Have massive neurological attacks, my

employee came to work today and offered me to move into his house when he saw

what a condition I was in, cannot think to respond anymore....

From: Gerardo <thunder_road2000@...>

Subject: RE: Re: (unknown)

My symptoms have practically gone away and I am not experiencing hair loss, and

yet I am giving allergies to others..... is it still in my hair, my clothes, my

skin? I've tried shaving my head, buying new clothes, have moved to a new

apartment, have used borax, but nothing works.... I am confused and

overwhelmed..... any advise?

[Guest guest]

Is there a way to beat this stuff? How can I be more or less okay now, but still

carry the allergens and cause allergic reactions in ohters? is this unheard of?

aren't there other cases like mine?

Please advise....

KAREN DEAN <kdeanstudios@...> escribió:

Speak to those who have moved 4 or more times in one year, or who have only

lived out of doors. I will be moving out of doors for the second time in 16

years. Cannot breath in here, or think! Have massive neurological attacks, my

employee came to work today and offered me to move into his house when he saw

what a condition I was in, cannot think to respond anymore....

From: Gerardo <thunder_road2000@...>

Subject: RE: Re: (unknown)

My symptoms have practically gone away and I am not experiencing hair loss, and

yet I am giving allergies to others..... is it still in my hair, my clothes, my

skin? I've tried shaving my head, buying new clothes, have moved to a new

apartment, have used borax, but nothing works.... I am confused and

overwhelmed..... any advise?

[Guest guest]

felice--Tigerpaw can answer this better than I can but I have become so ill that

I do not want one thing. My spouse and kids however will bring their clothes

from the mustiest closets which I plan to throw out as soon as they leave the

house. Most people say to leave the upholstered items, etc. It all depends on

how sick you are. I am leaving it all and going to a house I just found. I

can't keep coming back and forth and getting so sick and then going some other

place. Take the max out on a home equity loan, buy a small cheaper house and get

out while you can. Symptoms do not get better until you get out and now is

better for you than 3 months from now. I have stayed too long. Even in March

my symptoms would go away once I stayed out but now they don't so several months

could affect your future. You don't know when " too late " is. Jane Ann

felice <anupath14@...> wrote: hi yawl,

so, i hope to sell my house within the next few months and live somewhere else

while this is going on.

I understand some about the mold spores getting into everything but, overall,

what do you suggest.

Do I sell everything??? It's 2 story house full of furniture.

My queen bed is only about a year old and expensive.

I bought 2 beautiful cushioned pieces last spring.

And what about all the wood furniture??

What CAN i keep?? Anything?? How about a metal file cabinet with all my papers,

tax papers, medical, bank, etc.....

this is big and i know many of you have gone throught this.

AGH!!!!!!!!!

But, it'll be a new beginning, a chance to start to heal. felice

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I'm sure you have read all the posts about cleaning and moving-I also

had a 3000sq ft home- I had a big moving sale- the only mistake I made

was not selling everything Hard items I scrubbed forever still

contaminated my new digs. below is a clothing cleaning protical that

may work

The approved way for de-contaminating clothes in the washer is 2 cups

of bleach with soap and borax for a hot water-12 hr soak- I find this

works well for thin Items, but is very damaging and also impossible for

darks. A better way I found is Vulpex soap- which is a conservateres

soap that I use in my business. It is the most potente de-greaser I

have ever found and is soluable in both water and solvents. A hot water

soak in 1/2 cup vulpex for 12 hrs, then wash, seems to work well for

most clothes-forget comforters, as they are too thick. Also polartec is

the hardest to clean- requiring 2 such cleanings. I would first take

all your laundry to a commercial laundry and pay them to wash it-

asking for clean bags when they are finished- also ask for Borax. then

you can start de-contaminating them with the vulpex soap- leave all the

bags outside your new home- bringing them inside one at a time into the

washer. Throw away the plastic bags they were in- right outside-The

vulpex soap costs $60 a quart- so you may want to throw away everything

that is not worth cleaning. A quart will do 8 loads. You can purchase

it at Conservation Restorers in VA. Sorry I am at the library today so

I cannot send the link.

Good Luck,

Thanks,

>

> hi yawl,

> so, i hope to sell my house within the next few months and live

somewhere else while this is going on.

> I understand some about the mold spores getting into everything but,

overall, what do you suggest.

> Do I sell everything??? It's 2 story house full of furniture.

> My queen bed is only about a year old and expensive.

> I bought 2 beautiful cushioned pieces last spring.

> And what about all the wood furniture??

> What CAN i keep?? Anything?? How about a metal file cabinet with all

my papers, tax papers, medical, bank, etc.....

> this is big and i know many of you have gone throught this.

> AGH!!!!!!!!!

> But, it'll be a new beginning, a chance to start to heal. felice

>

[Guest guest]

Felice,

I may have missed something here, so correct me if I am wrong or did miss

something. If I did please allow me to apologize now.

Are you in a home with mold now? Is this the same home you are trying to sell

to someone else? Has your home been remediated and you've received clearance?

NO you can't sell your things to anyone else. That would just go to their home

and contaminate their home, and then make their whole family sick. Yes, you can

take hard porous items if you clean them properly, and clothing too. You can

look back within the past couple weeks and see how to do this, we recently had a

similar discussion with someone else. It will be very helpful to you too. Yes,

you can take your mattress if you have it cleaned properly. But, most newbie's

would be better off to just walk away. Yes, you can take important papers if

you have them cleaned by professionals-very costly though. We took ours.

Incased them in triple plastic bags, sealed them and then put them in air tight

plastic tubs in our attic. Never opened them. Then after 3 years took the tub

outside and destroyed them, while wearing protection. Books magazines

everything has to be handled the same way. We left it all behind. Why take a

chance on your health. If it has foam get rid of it. If it can not be wiped

down like a counter forget it. Even appliances have to handled and cleaned

properly. Don't take a chance on making yourself sick or anyone else for that

matter. We had our home sold and was ready to close in 4 weeks. We finally got

the test results back, and found out it was mold. So, needless to say we

couldn't sell the home to anyone else. We told them why, took the home off the

market and walked away.

I hope it all works out for you, yes it is a huge financial stain, it is

exhausting, and will be for years to come. I don't know if you really ever

recover. But, atleast your body won't continue to be exposed to something that

is going to continue to make it sicker. Most here in this group have went thru

it and understand.

Re: [] moving

felice--Tigerpaw can answer this better than I can but I have become so ill

that I do not want one thing. My spouse and kids however will bring their

clothes from the mustiest closets which I plan to throw out as soon as they

leave the house. Most people say to leave the upholstered items, etc. It all

depends on how sick you are. I am leaving it all and going to a house I just

found. I can't keep coming back and forth and getting so sick and then going

some other place. Take the max out on a home equity loan, buy a small cheaper

house and get out while you can. Symptoms do not get better until you get out

and now is better for you than 3 months from now. I have stayed too long. Even

in March my symptoms would go away once I stayed out but now they don't so

several months could affect your future. You don't know when " too late " is. Jane

Ann

felice <anupath14@...> wrote: hi yawl,

so, i hope to sell my house within the next few months and live somewhere else

while this is going on.

I understand some about the mold spores getting into everything but, overall,

what do you suggest.

Do I sell everything??? It's 2 story house full of furniture.

My queen bed is only about a year old and expensive.

I bought 2 beautiful cushioned pieces last spring.

And what about all the wood furniture??

What CAN i keep?? Anything?? How about a metal file cabinet with all my

papers, tax papers, medical, bank, etc.....

this is big and i know many of you have gone throught this.

AGH!!!!!!!!!

But, it'll be a new beginning, a chance to start to heal. felice

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[Guest guest]

>

> hi yawl,

> so, i hope to sell my house within the next few months and live

somewhere else while this is going on.

> I understand some about the mold spores getting into everything but,

overall, what do you suggest.

> Do I sell everything??? It's 2 story house full of furniture.

> My queen bed is only about a year old and expensive.

> I bought 2 beautiful cushioned pieces last spring.

> And what about all the wood furniture??

> What CAN i keep?? Anything?? How about a metal file cabinet with all

my papers, tax papers, medical, bank, etc.....

> this is big and i know many of you have gone throught this.

> AGH!!!!!!!!!

> But, it'll be a new beginning, a chance to start to heal. felice

>

Felice- I am going through the same thing-- I've been out of my mold

home for 6 months now and am still very sick. I even have mold growing

in my sinuses. I want you to understand that remediation really never

works because the billions of mold spores still remain in your home.

It really is impossible to get them all, and for people like us, we

will remain sick forever!! So-- I suggest to get the hell out of your

home and never look back. It is painful and hard but has to be done.

And don't take anything with you because of cross-contamination. Trust

me. I am on car # 2, hotel #20 and I still continue to feel the

mycotoxins from my clothing. It really is hard to get stuff clean-- I

am learning this! You will have more luck with cleaning hard items but

cloth is a b***h! And forget your new bed. I had just bought a

cool new bed too and I had to put it in storage. It got contaminated

from cross-contamination. I strongly suggest that you bring nothing

from your mold house to your new home. I have heard that you can put

stuff in storage for 5 years and then the mycotoxins dissapate. But

make sure there is a draft that can get to them ( do not put stuff in

taped boxes). Anyhow, sorry for what you are going through. I

completely understand. I am trying to do this too. It is hard on your

family and finacially exhausting!! It is a very serious thing. I am

finally ready to buy 1 new outfit and step into a new car and drive to

a new home. This is all I will start with. It's what has to be done

to survive and get better! It sucks, but it beats dying. Hang in

there!