Re: Re: Off-topic question -- hives Niacin Vit. B3/ rashes; anna

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Interesting. Something I was not aware of. I would not agree to steroid

treatment for lupus if offered to me. There is mounting evidence lupus and

other chronic degenerative diseases may have stealth infection component. I

would think along the lines of exploring that before steroids.

I find my chronic lyme/ + co infection laden body seems to relish B complex and

I do better with more than the usual doses of it. No rash though. But I agree

that a test with the niacin would certainly be a easier solution than the

alternatives.

Diane

Re: Off-topic question -- hives Niacin Vit. B3/

rashes; anna

hello

the resaon I wanted the person with the Rash to test for a Nicain

Deficinecy before being tested for Lupus is this:

A Deficieny of Niacin vitamin B3 can produce a rash looks similar to

the Lupus rash; (butterfly rash on face).; see the point is:

If the Rash is caused by a Deficieny of Niacin (Kassel's Necklace)

the conditon can be treated and reversed with Niacin Vitamin B3;

however; if the Rash is caused by Lupus; the treatment is Steroids.

So I like to rule out easily correctable Vitamin and Mineral

Deficienies before I recommend getting tested.

Summary: A Rash is a knonw sympton of a Deficieny of Niacin Vit. B3;

known since 1940; 100 mgs. a day for 7 days to see if Rash disspaotes.

If Rash dissaptes continue with a Vitamin B-Complex for atleast 1 yr.

.

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Sorry, I don't agree with you.

As a long time Lupus sufferer I know that a Butterfly mark is the most obvious

sign of Lupus. Although not all show them on their face. I know people who also

have a rash on their tummy.

The Casal necklace you are referring to(not Kassal's ) is a ring of lesions

around the lower neck or just on the front of the neck. Not shaped like a

butterfly across the cheeks and the chin. There's a distinct difference between

a Lupus rash and a Casal's rask, no MD will make the mistake and mix those two

up.

Casal lesions are a sign of Pellagra is a vitamin deficiency disease caused by

dietary lack of niacin (B3) and protein

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellagra

Pellagra was first described in Spain in 1735 by Gaspar Casal, that's why the

lesions are called Casal's lesions.

As for taking cortisone for Lupus, if you're in the luxury position to be able

to refuse than that 's wonderful. Some of us however are not in that position.

For me, after I was diagnosed with ME 15 years ago, dr's did not look further

when I got other symptoms, they simply thought it was part of the ME.

When I moved to the USA and got all new blood test is showed overwhelming

evidence that I had developed Lupus years ago. Because it had go untreated for

so long my kidneys and heart was affected and my kidneys were failing. At that

moment you really do not have a choice of using cortisone or not. If you want to

see the next day you simply do. For me it has been a life saver, I'm on a

maintenance dose with the option to stress dose. Yes I had side effects, some

have disappeared, a nice side effect was that my anxiety attacks were gone and

some of my ME symptoms got less.

When your life is on the line you often have no time of exploring other options.

The theory sounds interesting and I will look into it. Although I agree with

more Pall who claims it all start on cell level.

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Portland, OR

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:49:33 -0000, Anne wrote:

> Yeah it is interesting; the way a woman can see a butterfly shaped

> rash on her face and think she may have Lupus

>

> when the rash could be a simple deficicnecy of Niacin Vitamin B3.

>

> The rash is called: Kassal's necklace; cured with Vitamin B3 and

> other B-Vits.

>

> The B-Vitamins are also good for the nerves; and they reduce stress.

>

> Don't overtake Niacin though (do not exceed 300 mgs. day: or too much

> Niacin can produce a rash; it's a fine balance of daily Niacin supps.-