Re: Off-topic question -- hives Niacin Vit. B3/ rashes; anna

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hello

the resaon I wanted the person with the Rash to test for a Nicain

Deficinecy before being tested for Lupus is this:

A Deficieny of Niacin vitamin B3 can produce a rash looks similar to

the Lupus rash; (butterfly rash on face).; see the point is:

If the Rash is caused by a Deficieny of Niacin (Kassel's Necklace)

the conditon can be treated and reversed with Niacin Vitamin B3;

however; if the Rash is caused by Lupus; the treatment is Steroids.

So I like to rule out easily correctable Vitamin and Mineral

Deficienies before I recommend getting tested.

Summary: A Rash is a knonw sympton of a Deficieny of Niacin Vit. B3;

known since 1940; 100 mgs. a day for 7 days to see if Rash disspaotes.

If Rash dissaptes continue with a Vitamin B-Complex for atleast 1 yr.

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> > ,

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> > I've had hives for about 3 years, and the one thing that shows

up

> in blood tests is/are high IgE levels. If your problem occurs

again,

> or regularly, it would be worth checking this. The hives, which

in

> my case show up as very itchy points, no heat feeling, do seem to

> spread upwards over time depending on the severity of the episode

> (which seems to correlate with upwards fluctuations of my IgE

> levels). Taking a certain amount of fish oil seems to keep them

> under control unless the IgE levels are above a certain level.

But

> the reason I'm bringing this up is that I think higher than

normal

> IgE levels can make you more susceptible to an allergic reaction

to

> some kind of trigger or trigger substance.

> >

> > I hope yours was just a passing fancy, but have you tried going

> back and retracing the drive to see if they reoccur. Also

stopping

> in the same stores, in case they had just had some kind of

commercial

> bug treatment. Asking about that might shed some light on this.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Off-topic question -- hives

> >

> >

> > I had something happen yesterday that I don't understand and

I'm

> > wondering if anyone else has ever had the same thing happen

under

> any

> > similar circumstance.

> >

> > I had to run errands driving in my car. I set out a couple of

> hours

> > after eating some lunch. It was a bright sunny day, but I was

> > completely covered -- long sleeves, a sweatshirt jacket, long

> pants,

> > socks, shoes. Everything was covered except for my face and my

> > hands, plus I was inside the car for almost the entire time,

with

> > only short trips from the car to any place I stopped at.

> >

> > I was fine driving for the first few stops (probably 3 hours

> since

> > I'd eaten anything). Then on the way back from my vet, I was

> driving

> > in a more rural area where there is still some farming going

on.

> I

> > drove a few miles through this rural area to get to the next

> place I

> > had to stop at. Nearing this final store, I felt my arms and

face

> > heat up and my arms begin to itch and sting. When I parked in

the

> > lot, I rolled up my sleeves and saw that they were inflamed

with

> > bright red hives.

> >

> > This kind of thing has previously happened to me but only after

> being

> > out in the sun for more than 20 minutes or so. Rich Van K had

> > previously suggested I might have one of the porphyrias. I

> haven't

> > had it checked out because I don't have insurance to help with

> the

> > expense of all these diagnoses. (In fact, right now, I don't

even

> > have a doctor.)

> >

> > But...the only thing I've been able to figure out so far is

that

> > perhaps I was exposed to something that a farmer was putting on

> his

> > field (spring planting or fertilizing). The hives subsided

fairly

> > quickly and were gone in about an hour or two.

> >

> > Does this ring any bells for anyone? Any clues or other help is

> appreciated.

> >

> >

> > in Champaign IL

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hello, all the repliers to the hives problem I posted about a couple

of weeks ago. Thank you for your help and information.

No, I have not been tested for lupus, but also don't believe I have

it. The hives I get are predominantly on the arms, frequently on the

arms and legs, infrequently everywhere including the face. No

" butterfly rash, " however.

I already take 250 mg of niacin per day plus a B-complex tablet plus

individual B vitamins to help combat my neural problems including

bilateral peripheral neuropathy (18 years).

Since I posted about the hives a couple of weeks ago, I have

experienced them two or three times again, with no seeming " trigger, "

which leads me to think I I have some kind of temperature

dysregulation, as Marti originally suggested. I haven't tested

myself out in full sun yet this year, to see if I'm reacting the same

way in that circumstance (probably one of the porphyrias). That type

of hives occurrence has been consistent and predictable in me for the

past 30 years.

Thank you all again for all your help and suggestions. I appreciate them all.

in Champaign IL

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Yeah it is interesting; the way a woman can see a butterfly shaped

rash on her face and think she may have Lupus

when the rash could be a simple deficicnecy of Niacin Vitamin B3.

The rash is called: Kassal's necklace; cured with Vitamin B3 and

other B-Vits.

The B-Vitamins are also good for the nerves; and they reduce stress.

Don't overtake Niacin though (do not exceed 300 mgs. day: or too much

Niacin can produce a rash; it's a fine balance of daily Niacin supps.-

-- In , " Diane " <dphf@...> wrote:

>

> Interesting. Something I was not aware of. I would not agree to

steroid treatment for lupus if offered to me. There is mounting

evidence lupus and other chronic degenerative diseases may have

stealth infection component. I would think along the lines of

exploring that before steroids.

>

> I find my chronic lyme/ + co infection laden body seems to relish B

complex and I do better with more than the usual doses of it. No

rash though. But I agree that a test with the niacin would certainly

be a easier solution than the alternatives.

> Diane

> Re: Off-topic question -- hives

Niacin Vit. B3/ rashes; anna

>

>

> hello

>

> the resaon I wanted the person with the Rash to test for a Nicain

> Deficinecy before being tested for Lupus is this:

>

> A Deficieny of Niacin vitamin B3 can produce a rash looks similar

to

> the Lupus rash; (butterfly rash on face).; see the point is:

>

> If the Rash is caused by a Deficieny of Niacin (Kassel's

Necklace)

> the conditon can be treated and reversed with Niacin Vitamin B3;

>

> however; if the Rash is caused by Lupus; the treatment is

Steroids.

>

> So I like to rule out easily correctable Vitamin and Mineral

> Deficienies before I recommend getting tested.

>

> Summary: A Rash is a knonw sympton of a Deficieny of Niacin Vit.

B3;

> known since 1940; 100 mgs. a day for 7 days to see if Rash

disspaotes.

>

> If Rash dissaptes continue with a Vitamin B-Complex for atleast 1

yr.

>

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ps the name of the rash caused by a Deficiency of Niacin B3 is called

PELLAGRA

also too much vitamin b3 can cause a rash; too much vitamin C causes

a rash called

Acidosis. so not enough of a vitamn and too much can cause rahses !---

In , " Anne " <annroc2004@...> wrote:

>

> Yeah it is interesting; the way a woman can see a butterfly shaped

> rash on her face and think she may have Lupus

>

> when the rash could be a simple deficicnecy of Niacin Vitamin B3.

>

> The rash is called: Kassal's necklace; cured with Vitamin B3 and

> other B-Vits.

>

> The B-Vitamins are also good for the nerves; and they reduce stress.

>

> Don't overtake Niacin though (do not exceed 300 mgs. day: or too

much

> Niacin can produce a rash; it's a fine balance of daily Niacin

supps.-

> -- In , " Diane " <dphf@> wrote:

> >

> > Interesting. Something I was not aware of. I would not agree to

> steroid treatment for lupus if offered to me. There is mounting

> evidence lupus and other chronic degenerative diseases may have

> stealth infection component. I would think along the lines of

> exploring that before steroids.

> >

> > I find my chronic lyme/ + co infection laden body seems to relish

B

> complex and I do better with more than the usual doses of it. No

> rash though. But I agree that a test with the niacin would

certainly

> be a easier solution than the alternatives.

> > Diane

> > Re: Off-topic question -- hives

> Niacin Vit. B3/ rashes; anna

> >

> >

> > hello

> >

> > the resaon I wanted the person with the Rash to test for a

Nicain

> > Deficinecy before being tested for Lupus is this:

> >

> > A Deficieny of Niacin vitamin B3 can produce a rash looks

similar

> to

> > the Lupus rash; (butterfly rash on face).; see the point is:

> >

> > If the Rash is caused by a Deficieny of Niacin (Kassel's

> Necklace)

> > the conditon can be treated and reversed with Niacin Vitamin B3;

> >

> > however; if the Rash is caused by Lupus; the treatment is

> Steroids.

> >

> > So I like to rule out easily correctable Vitamin and Mineral

> > Deficienies before I recommend getting tested.

> >

> > Summary: A Rash is a knonw sympton of a Deficieny of Niacin

Vit.

> B3;

> > known since 1940; 100 mgs. a day for 7 days to see if Rash

> disspaotes.

> >

> > If Rash dissaptes continue with a Vitamin B-Complex for atleast

1

> yr.

> >

> >

> > .

> >

> >

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> > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.

> > Checked by AVG.

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Date:

> 3/10/2008 11:07 AM

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