Chlorine Dioxide (Cl02) - notes on experiment...

[Guest guest]

Some of us are intaking 4ppm of Chlorine Dioxide via liquids for about

4 days now.. This is done by using hiking water tablets from outdoor

supply shop.

* Active CFIDS indicates changes, but cut back slightly on intake

because there was a " feeling-bad delayed punch " to it.

- Having more good moments (and noticing it!)

- Noticing improve sense of smell (biolfilm on olfactory likely)

* Myself:

- A little raw/sore throat

- Very dry stooles

- Noticing higher alertness

- Gums and teeth seem to be benefiting (plaque is a biolfilm)

- Improved sense of smell

Inconclusive about recommending...

[Guest guest]

Hi Ken is this the same as the MMS solution, which i have but they make it so

complicated to use because they say it needs to be mixed with akll kinds of

stuff, is there a certain place on line i can get the liquid or certainstore I

could tell my dad

kindest

Mike

[Moderator: Yes, an inquiry about MMS on this list and biolfilm happen to occur

at the same time and the two connected as an 'interesting'

Example of sources:

http://www.rei.com/category/4500460

As a FYI, for those into silver as an antibiotic check out hiking products from

http://www.katadyn.com.

They have chlorine dioxide+ silver ion products.

So it's simple, read the instructions and drop the pills into the specified

quantity of water (or juice or ...), leave for 4 hours and drink. 1 ppm in

drinking water is the drinking water limit (wikipedia). see

http://www.ewg.org/tapwater/contaminants/contaminant.php?contamcode=1008

for more on life-time levels. A general rule of thumb is that most limits are

usually 50%-25% of the tolerable limits for ****short term**** exposures.]

Remember to start at a low dosages (PPM) and slowly increase. Also, discuss with

your MD before starting.]

[Guest guest]

Ken,

Do you worry about chlorine blocking iodine? It seems that chorline,

fluorine and bromine would not be good for anyone. This would

especially be true for those with thyroid issues. Have you ever heard

of this concept?

a Carnes

[Moderator: The concepts/pattern that I am using for the experiment is this:

1) This is STRICTLY a PULSE. 2-4 weeks at most. It's purpose is to break down

existing biolfilms so that the immune system/antibiotics can get to the

reserves/focii in the biolfilm.

2) Assume reasonable 'normal' person

It is effective against some virus:

" Disinfection of poliovirus by iodine resulted in structural changes in the

virions as seen by electron micrroscopy, but the other disinfectants were able

to inactivate poliovirus without causing any apparent structural changes. " PMID:

6290566

" We concluded, then, that chlorine dioxide inactivated poliovirus by reacting

with the viral RNA and impairing the ability of the viral genome to act as a

template for RNA synthesis. " PMID: 6295277

You are correct about thryoid impact:

" chlorine dioxide (ClO2) treated drinking water depressed thyroxine (T4) levels

in the African green monkey.... ClO2 may have an effect on thyroid function in

both species[monkey,rats]. " PMID: 3761383

However checking deeper we find:

" this chemical inhibited thyroid metabolism in the animals at a dose of ca. 9.0

mg/kg/day. A statistically significant decrease of serum thyroxine occurred

after the fourth week of exposure to 100 mg/l.concentration. " PMID: 715176

The maximum dosage (sufficient to disrupt stubborn biolfilm (per literature) is

4ppm or 4ml/l --> 67.45/18 = 16mg/l [Rich please check my conversion], so it

appears to be well within safety bounds.

" Chlorine dioxide and hemodialy: Adverse effects in controlled prospective

studies in humans and in actual use situations in community water supplies have

as yet failed to reveal clear evidence of adverse health effects. Among groups

who may be at special risk from this suggested alternative are patients who must

undergo chronic extracorporeal hemodialysis. " PMID: 2184465]

[Guest guest]

Any updates on this experiment from those that were trying chlorine?

Looks like the clinical study recently referenced was topical

(swishing chlorine solution around in mouth), while some previous

posts were proposing to ingest it. My perception is that risk is

relatively low at a low dose for a short duration, but wanted to see

if anyone had experienced benefit. Thanks.

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> Some of us are intaking 4ppm of Chlorine Dioxide via liquids for about

> 4 days now.. This is done by using hiking water tablets from outdoor

> supply shop.

>

> * Active CFIDS indicates changes, but cut back slightly on intake

> because there was a " feeling-bad delayed punch " to it.

> - Having more good moments (and noticing it!)

> - Noticing improve sense of smell (biolfilm on olfactory likely)

>

> * Myself:

> - A little raw/sore throat

> - Very dry stooles

> - Noticing higher alertness

> - Gums and teeth seem to be benefiting (plaque is a biolfilm)

> - Improved sense of smell

>

> Inconclusive about recommending...

>