Chelation Therapy

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> From the Academy of Pediatrics

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> · Chelation therapy. Most recently, some concerns have been

> raised that ASD might be caused by early childhood exposure to

> environmental toxicants, particularly metals and minerals. Among

the

> incriminated metals, mercury has been most consistently believed

to

> be associated with the development of ASD. Developmentally delayed

> children, including those with ASD, may have pica or unusual diets

> that increase their risk of exposure to environmental

> neurotoxicants.179 Additionally, recent media coverage regarding

> mercury exposure from dietary sources (eg, methylmercury in some

> fish) and from thimerosal (ethylmercury) in vaccines has

heightened

> parental concerns regarding the possible link between ASD and

mercury

> exposure. Thus, parents may seek clinical assessment of the

child's

> mercury burden usually by hair analysis or by a provocative

chelation

> test in which a dose of chelator is given followed by measurement

of

> the amount of mercury appearing in urine. To date, there are no

> published studies linking mercury exposure to the development of

ASD

> or demonstrating that children with ASD have had greater exposure

to

> mercury than have unaffected children. Preliminary data from the

> Centers for Disease Control does not suggest a relationship

between

> thimerosal-containing vaccines and ASD.180 Hair analysis is not

> recommended for biomonitoring, because false elevations may occur

if

> the specimen is not carefully collected. Provocative chelation

tests

> for mercury have not been scientifically validated and are also

not

> recommended. Several chelating agents, including succimer,

> dimercaprol, d-penicillamine, and N-acetylcysteine, have been

shown

> to accelerate mercury elimination from the body.181 However, there

is

> no evidence that chelation therapy will improve developmental

> function when given to treat mercury toxicosis. Moreover,

chelating

> agents can have significant toxicity (eg, hepatotoxicity) and

> precipitate allergic reaction.182 Chelation therapy is therefore

not

> recommended for the purpose of improving neurodevelopmental

function

> in children with ASD.

> 1. MW, Graef JW Lead intoxication in children with

> pervasive developmental delays. Clin Toxicol 1996; 34:177-182

> 2. American Academy of Pediatrics, Committee on Environmental

> Health. Technical report: mercury in the environment implications

for

> pediatricians. Pediatrics. 2001; In press

> 3. Ballatori N, Lieberman MW, Wang W N-acetylcysteine as an

> antidote in methylmercury poisoning. Env Health Persp 1998;

106:267-

> 271

> 4. Treatment of Lead-Exposed Children (TLC) Trial Group Safety

> and efficacy of succimer in toddlers with blood lead levels of 20-

44

> µg/dl. Pediatr Res 2000; 48:593-599 [Abstract/Full Text]

im sorry but i have to respond to this. quoting from the academy of

pediatrics. how many times did i hear dr g blast this group because

they dont understand medicine or dont understand science etc?

i guess in some areas there right and in some there wrong lol!

i have not chelated my child but i whiel there is no double blind

evidence for it, it has been useful for some kids.just because

something has not been endorsed by a professional association does

no tbeen it is bad or does not work. obviously great caution shoul

dbe taken when investigating this method but i know many outstanding

doctors and parents who have used it with great success.

i visited a pediatrician today who has a 5 year old son on the

spectrum. well educated doc, lots of common sense. he has been using

dr buttars protocol ON HIS OWN SON with success.

can we really wait until something i sput thru the establishment

medical process before we try it on our kids?

on the other hand we need to be extremely careful what we put in

their bodies. no one person has the answers. parents have to beocme

educated, remain flexible and make the final judgement for their

kids/

by the way the acadmey of pediatrics, what is there position on the

specific nids protocol? thanks for your time, jeff

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The evidence is now indicating that even chelating for a heavy metal

poisoning is more dangerous then we originally thought. This is, of course, not

good

news for those of us in Public Health who have been dealing with this Public

Health issue for almost four decades. Having said that if I, as a Health Care

Provider knowing how dangerous chelation is, had done it to my child for autism

I certainly would tell everyone that my child was greatly improved. I would

particularly tell that to myself every single day. Kathy -NNY

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In a message dated 8/13/2004 2:48:03 PM Central Standard Time,

JOSKAT95@... writes:

<<The evidence is now indicating that even chelating for a heavy metal

poisoning is more dangerous then we originally thought. >>

This " evidence " would be an especially good thing to post either here or in

the FILES section since I don't think most people following chelation know of

any such evidence, aside from the one study Cheryl has posted here several

times about lack of clear benefit/possible worsening of behavior from a 21-day

treatment for lead poisoning versus untreated children. Some clear research

studies showing this would go a long way in boosting the belief against

chelation.

Gaylen

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Does anyone know if Chelation Therapy would help individuals who have

become ill from being exposed to mold, and has any group member ever

tried it?

Barb E.

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The only thing I've tried is milk thistle and it did get my liver

enzymes back to normal within a month.

Barth

TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

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f> Does anyone know if Chelation Therapy would help individuals who have

f> become ill from being exposed to mold, and has any group member ever

f> tried it?

f> Barb E.

f> FAIR USE NOTICE:

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I'm not sure but one could probably consider Chorestyramine a

chelation agent since it supposedly grabs on to toxins and carries

them out. There are many chelation agents that are used for various

things. Some are IV, some are oral, some are even topical I believe.

I don't know if I ever heard of one specifically recommended for mold

toxins except for above, but then many doctors don't seem to think

about mold toxins. My local MD/Holistic doctor recommends charcoal

tablets, 4 at bedtime.

> Does anyone know if Chelation Therapy would help individuals who have

> become ill urom being exposed to mold, and has any group member ever

> tried it?

> Barb E.

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THANKS, JO ANN.

VICTORIA

Re: [] Chelation Therapy

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> > The only thing I've tried is milk thistle and it

> > did get my liver

> > enzymes back to normal within a month.

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> > Barth

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> > TOXIC MOLD SURVEY:

> > www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

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> > f> Does anyone know if Chelation Therapy would

> > help individuals who have

> > f> become ill from being exposed to mold, and has

> > any group member ever

> > f> tried it?

> > f> Barb E.

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> > f> FAIR USE NOTICE:

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There are a few schools of thought in alt med on how to do chelation.

Since you are sensitive to things see if any of these are safe for you.

Can you do olive oil? If so, then get first cold pressed organic olive

oil and swish it around in your mouth for a while....do NOT swallow it,

this removes SOME of the mercury amalagmas toxicity.

Can you do cilantro? If so, eat a lot of this as it does aid in systemic

detoxification.

There are other chelations such as emenas but knowing that they do use

some things that tend to be highly allergenistic I would shy away form

them.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Matt Klein wrote:

> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:07:25 -0400

> From: Matt Klein <mkklein68@...>

> Reply-

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> Subject: Re: [] Chelation Therapy

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> Get the book The Chelation Way and/or Everything You Need to Know About

> Chelation Therapy by Morton . I saw it on Amazon for less than

> $2.00

> or get it from the library. It explains what Chelation Therapy is, how

> they came to use it as a therapy other than for heavy metal poisoning,

> how

> it works, etc. This is not an endorsement for Chelation

> Therapy. Although, I knew an MD who used it in his personal health

> regimen. At the time, and I'm sure at present, it is not covered by any

> insurance company and it's not cheap. It is also not a one shot

> deal. Read the books and decide for yourself if it is for you.

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> Jo Ann Klein, LMT

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> >i suppose it would be possible, barb, but i don't know enough about it,

> to

> >really have an " opinion " . its possible, i think, to be allergic to most

> >anything.

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> >take care,

> >victoria

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> > Re: [] Chelation Therapy

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> > > The only thing I've tried is milk thistle and it

> > > did get my liver

> > > enzymes back to normal within a month.

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> > > Barth

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> > > TOXIC MOLD SURVEY:

> > > www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

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> > > f> Does anyone know if Chelation Therapy would

> > > help individuals who have

> > > f> become ill from being exposed to mold, and has

> > > any group member ever

> > > f> tried it?

> > > f> Barb E.

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There are so many different chelation agents, there are bound to be

some you aren't allergic too. Then there are mild chelators and

strong, harsh chelator (for healthier people). I think you just have

to read up on topic, try them in small dose first to see if allergic

to and then in larger dose to see if has a positive effect. There are

lots of different opinions on what agents work best so I think you

just need to try as long as nothing dangerous, should be okay. You

should find info on chelators all over the internet, Mercola.com,

Hulda , Curezone.

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> There are a few schools of thought in alt med on how to do

chelation.

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> Since you are sensitive to things see if any of these are safe for

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Rogene,

I talked to someone who had $60,000.00 worth of chelation therapy, not for implant sickness, it was from another sickness. Claims it did not help one bit..... I really don't know.... I am wondering if Kacey Long might of had these treatments? I know someone did this but I don't remember who? Sorry I am of no help.....

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Chelation therapy with medication can be hard on the body. One can take modified citrus pectin (MCP) to remove heavy metals and lower the risk of cancer. Eating cilantro is also an option.

Bindi

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One of our silent sisters sees a neurologist in Dallas . . .

He has quit using chelation in favor of ionic foot baths on his patients because Chelation was pulling too many minerals out of his patients bodies.

Rogene

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Rogene,

I did and I know Patty has.

I did the Heavy Metal Challenge test and tested high for mercury and

lead.

I was put on Redoxal HMF - dl-Methionine. This is supposedly a sulfur

based product that binds to the heavy metals.

Then I used Chelex (XYMOGEN). This has DMSaA, EDTA, Cilantro...etc.

This supposedly chelated the binded sulfur/heavy metal combo out of

your body.

However...this was not working well for me and my doctor put me on d-

penniciliamine. Awful stuff! Had a bloating, swelling reaction to

it.

I haven't done anything for well over a year....as I am afraid of it.

I have amalgum fillings and I swear I think this stuff pulled the

mercury out of them and deposited it into other areas.

Many months later, I had a hair analysis performed by Doctors Data.

Ordered the kit and did it myself without a doctor. Some say the hair

analysis is better...but who really knows???. ON this test, I did not

test high in mercury/lead....but tested high in SILVER of all things.

So...I have no clue about these tests!!!!!

If I was going to attack this problem again, I would first have all my

mercury/amalgum fillings replaced. I would then find the best

possible docotor to do " gentle IV chelation " . And I just might do this

one day.

Chelation pulls other vital minerals and vitamins out of your body.

I don't want to speak for Patty...but I think she felt she had some

success with the pills she was taking for chelation.

Oddly enough....a lot of my problems came after I broke a tooth that

had an amalgum filling. Mercury?? Mercury can cause pituitary,

thryoid and adrenal problems. I have this in the back of my brain as

a possible cause. But this stuff scares me.

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> We have a silent sister asking if anyone has tried chelation therapy.

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> Anyone?

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> Rogene

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Is this request coming from Gretchen? If so, I agree with Lynda.

Gretchen was too sick to add this into the mix without checking with

Dr. Kolb. She may not be well enough to do any chelation.It is not

something to do " casually " .

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> >We have a silent sister asking if anyone has tried chelation

therapy.

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> >Anyone?

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> >Rogene

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I have never chelated my children nor wished to do so but there was an article

from Reuters stating that a study has been done and they found that DMSA was

safe and effective. They found that the glutathione levels in children with

autism came back to normal levels but it only lasted 1-2 months. In another area

of interest, the NIH did a study as well but the results have not been posted.

Here are two links (the first one to the study that I mentioned and the other is

to the NIH page where they will post the results.

All the best,

Jill

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS117937+05-Nov-2009+PRN20091105

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00376194?term=chelation & rank=9

I hope the links work!

From: <jlhank80@...>

Subject: Re: [Fwd: hbot]

Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 10:28 AM

 

Thank you for posting this! It was very helpful. I had no idea that

chelation had some immune-modulating properties which would explain why

chelation has helped some children (according to parental report)

I was wondering if anyone knew of any hard research that debunks or shows the

dangers of the treatments because I feel unarmed when talking to adamant DAN

moms!

Does anyone know any information about where I can find out how the body gets

rid of metals on its own?

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> From Dr G or Mrs G back in 2006

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> --- Re: what's the harm in chelation/HBOT

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> Chelation can re-free up mercury to increase damage,

> poisoning, and it also modulates the immune system

> (not necessarily the correct way, appears to actually

> damage it in many cases), which may be the real reason

> some people see improvement, not because of mercury

> removal. It's dangerous, and when chelating, it is

> very very common for severe GI infections to occur.

> That is definitely not something you want when our

> kids already have sometimes serious GI issues, and it

> sets off the immune system even worse, when the whole

> goal is to cool it off. And when the body becomes

> healthier and enzyme pathways that may be shut off due

> to illness and fighting illness turn back on, the body

> can cleanse itself for more efficiently and safely

> than chelating ever could. There's many more

> negatives associated, but those are big ones. And

> most children Dr G has seen who have been chelated

> (not all) take longer to recover.

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> HBOT ... NeuroSpect findings (that measures blood flow

> to the brain) has shown severe " white hot " spots in

> the brain after HBOT, and indication of way too much

> blood flow and probably damage. He has witnessed some

> horrible things w/ that he said, and would never

> recommend it for any child. Our kids DO have

> hypoperfusion, but many also have hyperperfusion in

> other areas of the brain. The brain scans on

> 'autistic' children are comparable to other disorders

> relating to chronic viral infections, and it has been

> shown that when the underlying illness is treated, the

> blood flow can be restored, although frequently

> requiring an SSRI to help with that.

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> He feels that safety is key, and that these are

> dangerous procedures, and proper treatment can help

> many children without putting them at risk. He is

> very adamant about that. You can also do a search at

> the files on groups for previous discussions on

> the topic, and see research abstracts posted by

> Raptor.

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