Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 http://www.cfids-cab.org/rc/Maes.pdf Maes articles Hi all, I am trying to find the 2 articles published by Dr. Maes on intestinal dysbiosis and CFS. I can't seem to find them online. I only find the abstracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Thank you Nil. Does anyone have his latest article where he describes the treatment of a young girl with CFS and intestinal permeability? Yannick > > http://www.cfids-cab.org/rc/Maes.pdf > Maes articles > > > Hi all, > > I am trying to find the 2 articles published by Dr. Maes on intestinal > dysbiosis and CFS. I can't seem to find them online. I only find the > abstracts. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Very interesting. Thanks http://www.ediver.be/ediver/latest%20news/Maes%20M,%20leaky%20gut%20in%20CFS.pdf bw nil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Hi Nil, How did you find the articles? I have been trying for weeks. Yannick > > Very interesting. > Thanks > http://www.ediver.be/ediver/latest%20news/Maes%20M,%20leaky%20gut% 20in%20CFS.pdf > bw > nil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi Yannick, try this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18063928 1: Neuro Endocrinol Lett. 2007 Dec;28(6):739-44.Links Normalization of the increased translocation of endotoxin from gram negative enterobacteria (leaky gut) is accompanied by a remission of chronic fatigue syndrome. Maes M, Coucke F, Leunis JC. MCare4U Outpatient Clinics, Belgium. crc.mh@... There is now evidence that chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) is accompanied by an increased translocation of endotoxins from gram-negative enterobacteria through the gut wall, as demonstrated by increased prevalences and median values for serum IgM and IgA against the endotoxins of gram-negative enterobacteria. This condition can also be described as increased gut permeability or leaky gut and indicates intestinal mucosal dysfunction (IMD). Here we report a case of a 13 year old girl with CFS who showed very high values for serum IgM against the LPS of some enterobacteria and signs of oxidative and nitrosative stress, activation of the inflammatory response system, and IgG3 subclass deficiency. Upon treatment with specific antioxidants and a " leaky gut diet " , which both aim to treat increased gut permeability, and immunoglobins intravenously, the increased translocation of the LPS of gram negative enterobacteria normalized and this normalization was accompanied by a complete remission of the CFS symptoms. PMID: 18063928 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] And if you like 6 pages full of this, then try to download this PDF: http://www.ediver.be/ediver/latest%20news/Maes%20M,%20leaky%20gut%20in%20CFS.pdf His own website may be a good source for more of his stuff: www.ediver.be Most but not all is in English. Grts Bruno M. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > http://www.cfids-cab.org/rc/Maes.pdf > >------------------------- > > From: yannick_amar > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am trying to find the 2 articles published by Dr. Maes on > > intestinal dysbiosis and CFS. I can't seem to find them online. > > I only find the abstracts. ================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 I made a search for words `Maes`,`CFS` and `pdf`.. best wishes nil Re: Maes articles Hi Nil, How did you find the articles? I have been trying for weeks. Yannick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 Hi Bruno, Thanks for the info. I see from your email that you are from Belgium. Are you a patient of Dr. Maes'? Do you know anything about his treatments and approach? Yannick > > > > > > http://www.cfids-cab.org/rc/Maes.pdf > > >------------------------- > > > From: yannick_amar > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I am trying to find the 2 articles published by Dr. Maes on > > > intestinal dysbiosis and CFS. I can't seem to find them online. > > > I only find the abstracts. > ================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 My GI doc suggested that leaky gut had a role in CFS. I have tried a couple of different Rx GI anti-inflammatories that are supposed to help with this, though they did not have an effect on me. > > > > > > http://www.cfids-cab.org/rc/Maes.pdf > > >------------------------- > > > From: yannick_amar > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I am trying to find the 2 articles published by Dr. Maes on > > > intestinal dysbiosis and CFS. I can't seem to find them online. > > > I only find the abstracts. > ================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 - I'd like to know if the leaky gut is caused by celiac disease, fungal, or food allergies or lyme ??? amy [Moderator: the MODEL that I find works best is simple: hypercoagulation causes poor blood flow to gut and stomach tissue so it is unable to replace itself with healthy tissues. (i.e. Not sufficient oxygen and not sufficient removal of toxins). Thus a rational approach is to improve the blood flow... and it's penetration into tissue] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 People with heart conditions are frequently told to take one baby aspirin per day to improve blood flow. What are your thoughts about the appropriateness, and any risks, of trying this for CFS? > > - > I'd like to know if the leaky gut is caused by celiac disease, > fungal, or food allergies or lyme > ??? amy > > [Moderator: the MODEL that I find works best is simple: hypercoagulation causes poor blood flow to gut and stomach tissue so it is unable to replace itself with healthy tissues. (i.e. Not sufficient oxygen and not sufficient removal of toxins). Thus a rational approach is to improve the blood flow... and it's penetration into tissue] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Hello. I don't know about aspirin and CFS in particular but aspirin and anything at all or even nothing is not something that I would personally touch with a 10 foot barge pole. And not because I have ME or MCS or any other condition, but because of aspirin itself. Daily Aspirin: It's Dangerous Withdrawal, Cancer Link and Other Problems. By: Dr. Wong, ND, PhD. http://www.totalityofbeing.com/FramelessPages/Articles/DailyAspirin.ht m Dangers Of Aspirin From our book Bypassing Bypass, published in 2002 http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cardio/cardio26.htm Aspirin - The Bitter Pill That Kills http://www.communicationagents.com/chris/2003/06/04/aspirin_the_bitter _pill_that_kills.htm All of the studies that were done on aspirin on its effectiveness were done on 'buffered' aspirin. The aspirin was bufferd with magnesium which is well known to be good for preventing heart attacks. Among other things, magnesium relaxes the viens causing it be be easier for blood to go through - one way it lowers blood pressure too. Plus magnesium relaxes the muscels - the heart needs to contract & not relax in a timely fashion to have a heart attack. There is a lot of info about magnesium at www.mgwater.com as well as at www.magnesiumforlife.com/ If it was me, I would take lots of magnesium in an easily digestable form if taken orally[i have found for myself that orally magnesium glycinate and magnesium taurate are the best digested ones plus magnesium chloride transdermally ]. Plus systemic enzymes like Zymitol [which has no trans fats in it ] to keep the blood clean and thin. blessings Shan > > > > - > > I'd like to know if the leaky gut is caused by celiac disease, > > fungal, or food allergies or lyme > > ??? amy > > > > [Moderator: the MODEL that I find works best is simple: > hypercoagulation causes poor blood flow to gut and stomach tissue so > it is unable to replace itself with healthy tissues. (i.e. Not > sufficient oxygen and not sufficient removal of toxins). Thus a > rational approach is to improve the blood flow... and it's penetration > into tissue] > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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