Re: CFS 10 YEARS, (LOW mental ENERGY) = NEED SUPPLEMENT ADVICE

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spartiatis2000 wrote:

> ended up developing adrenal fatigue after two overtraining incidents

> from too much weight lifting and coffee intake.

Had similar situation myself, but adrenal fatigue never addressed.

Wondering if the " incidents " were anything like a bolt of lightning

catching your head on fire for a few months, especially when pulse

elevated.

Mine was said to be a " minor aneurysm " . I never thought about it again

but still get pain in the same place now 10 years later. MRI's all

negative.

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After being on this list for just under 4 years.

The things which are helping me are :

1)Reducing Anxiety - amygdala retraining, self massage,aromatherapy

2)Supps - Detox, Strenghtening adrenals, Mitochondria supps

3)Moderate exercise -?to encourage Growth Hormone

Regards

CS

Re: CFS 10 YEARS, (LOW mental ENERGY) = NEED

SUPPLEMENT ADVICE

spartiatis2000 wrote:

> ended up developing adrenal fatigue after two overtraining incidents

> from too much weight lifting and coffee intake.

Had similar situation myself, but adrenal fatigue never addressed.

Wondering if the " incidents " were anything like a bolt of lightning

catching your head on fire for a few months, especially when pulse

elevated.

Mine was said to be a " minor aneurysm " . I never thought about it again

but still get pain in the same place now 10 years later. MRI's all

negative.

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What mitochondria supplements do you take ?

Thanks

Tracey

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Subject: Re: Re: CFS 10 YEARS, (LOW mental ENERGY) =

NEED SUPPLEMENT ADVICE

After being on this list for just under 4 years.

The things which are helping me are :

1)Reducing Anxiety - amygdala retraining, self massage,aromatherapy

2)Supps - Detox, Strenghtening adrenals, Mitochondria supps

3)Moderate exercise -?to encourage Growth Hormone

Regards

CS

Re: CFS 10 YEARS, (LOW mental ENERGY) = NEED

SUPPLEMENT ADVICE

spartiatis2000 wrote:

> ended up developing adrenal fatigue after two overtraining incidents

> from too much weight lifting and coffee intake.

Had similar situation myself, but adrenal fatigue never addressed.

Wondering if the " incidents " were anything like a bolt of lightning

catching your head on fire for a few months, especially when pulse

elevated.

Mine was said to be a " minor aneurysm " . I never thought about it again

but still get pain in the same place now 10 years later. MRI's all

negative.

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I take :

Cell building: Essential fattys acid:Evening primrose oil, flax, lecithin

Mitochondria:Roobios,Coq10, pantothenic acid, niacin,B complex, B12, vit C,

Magnesium, Breathing for oxygen

Adaptogenic supps : oats, basil, ashgwanda astralagus etc

I spent some weeks reducing anxiety - this is the root cause of CFS triggered by

illness /stress

in my opinion. if you dont do this no amount of supps will help you!?

Regards

CS

Re: CFS 10 YEARS, (LOW mental ENERGY) = NEED

SUPPLEMENT ADVICE

spartiatis2000 wrote:

> ended up developing adrenal fatigue after two overtraining incidents

> from too much weight lifting and coffee intake.

Had similar situation myself, but adrenal fatigue never addressed.

Wondering if the " incidents " were anything like a bolt of lightning

catching your head on fire for a few months, especially when pulse

elevated.

Mine was said to be a " minor aneurysm " . I never thought about it again

but still get pain in the same place now 10 years later. MRI's all

negative.

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To clear mental fog. What works for me.

1.- meditation for 20 minutes. Guided is better if new to it.

2.- imuplus NOT immune Pro RX or others for me. Only Imuplus works

for me. Others I can not tolerate.

3.- gingko biloba or bromelain (blood thinners). Use with caution.

4.- Vit C

5.- Magnesium, Vit E, etc

You may want to look into the amygdala retraining program from Ashok

Gupta.

It calms your central nervous system down. Then clarity and peace

ensue. It can work very quickly for some. Very useful for dealing

with the sleep issues, etc. It puts you more in control of your body.

For whatever reason the amydala and central nervous system are

involved in CFS. Learning how to calm them down quickly whenever you

need to is a wonderful thing. Regardless if it is the cure or not.

Just being far more in control of the ride can be of great help.

Just an example: I ate way too much very dark chocolate one night.

So my body went into the high caffeine awful feeling Wired, the

pedal to the metal but no fuel, fast heart beat etc. So I used

a couple of techniques from Gupta. In 5 minutes I calmed my CNS down

completely. Normally it would have taken a whole night awake. I was

so amazed that I had gained that level of control over my CNS. Now,

this does not mean one should indulge in CNS stimulants because one

can calm it down. Stay away from all stimulants.

Key point about Gupta's program. It is NOT about ignoring your body

or pushing yourself. ALWAYS rest when your body tells you to. This is

a point of confusion for some. It is like telling a 2 year old

child to stop getting too worked up about a twisted ankle, which is

NOT the same as pretending it is not there and go running and injure

it more.

>

> [Moderator: Check the file section and then post specific questions]

> Hi there. I was struck with a viral infection 10 years ago, still

> undefined. Initiall acute symptoms were fatigue, headaches,

diarrhoea

> or constipation, lymph node enlargement at back of head, neck and

> groin, glossitis, fungal infections and so on.

>

> Later after 6 months of adjustments taking place in my body i was

left

> with ongoing symptoms (which have remained stable for the last 10

> years) of

>

> -morning fatigue

> -restless sleep (unless i exercise or stay awake one whole night)

> -irritable bowel syndrome with constipation and bloating

> -very low mental energy (VERY BOTHERSOME- i cannot read for more

than

> 30 minutes without needing a rest)- after 30 minutes everything i

read

> DOESNT MAKE SENSE, I FEEL FOGGY AND CONFUSED LIKE I WAS STUDYING

FOR 5

> HOURS. (YET i dont have this problem while on the computer- it seems

> that the comp activates my HPA axis or something and i dont feel

that

> foggy or confused)

> -lymphadenopathy

>

> etc etc

>

>

> I quit my studies for many years now, because of inability to read

for

> longer than 30 minutes at a time, and concentrated on sports.

Finally

> ended up developing adrenal fatigue after two overtraining incidents

> from too much weight lifting and coffee intake.

>

> Now im struck with both but i still care about being able to study.

>

> So, i wanted your info on supplements to take to get a clearer

mental

> thought and energy in order to be able to study for 2-3 hours at a

> time. I need to finish my school, i feel so many guilts, 10 years

and

> i have done so little for my case. Only problem i really managed to

> deal with is constipation and that is still only at some intervarls

> not every time. Now i cant drink coffee or any sort of stimulator

and

> constipation and bloating is even worse.

>

> I have done all sorts of sophisticated testing regarding

>

> adrenal stress indices

> thyroid testing

> all sorts of hormone testing (even prohormones and metabolites)

>

> everything is ok apart from the low cortisol due to the adrenal

> fatigue but this hasnt really affected the way i read, its the same

> all this 10 years.

>

> The only two supplements i have tried and seemed to help in the

past was

>

> a) Solgar Earth Nutrients (but cant take it longer than few days i

get

> massive bloating)

> http://www.health4youonline.com/health_supplements_solgar_s1028-

30.htm

>

> Moodmax (strange supplement with many substances that i dont like

> to ingest -like saw palmetto- affects my libido. Yet took it 3-4

times

> and felt incredible concentration and thought clarity

>

>

> So pls, if anyone knows or has tried or has had similar problems

like

> me, this sort of functional brain fog that appears after 30 minutes,

> pls suggest some good supplements that have worked for MENTAL ENERGY

>

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Hard for me to believe you could asuage the effects of too much

chocolate

would like to know more about Gupta

Steve

" Nations are the wealth of humanity... The least among them has it's

own special colors.................. "

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:00 PM, mrraba wrote:

> To clear mental fog. What works for me.

>

> 1.- meditation for 20 minutes. Guided is better if new to it.

> 2.- imuplus NOT immune Pro RX or others for me. Only Imuplus works

> for me. Others I can not tolerate.

> 3.- gingko biloba or bromelain (blood thinners). Use with caution.

> 4.- Vit C

> 5.- Magnesium, Vit E, etc

>

> You may want to look into the amygdala retraining program from Ashok

> Gupta.

>

> It calms your central nervous system down. Then clarity and peace

> ensue. It can work very quickly for some. Very useful for dealing

> with the sleep issues, etc. It puts you more in control of your body.

>

> For whatever reason the amydala and central nervous system are

> involved in CFS. Learning how to calm them down quickly whenever you

> need to is a wonderful thing. Regardless if it is the cure or not.

> Just being far more in control of the ride can be of great help.

>

> Just an example: I ate way too much very dark chocolate one night.

> So my body went into the high caffeine awful feeling Wired, the

> pedal to the metal but no fuel, fast heart beat etc. So I used

> a couple of techniques from Gupta. In 5 minutes I calmed my CNS down

> completely. Normally it would have taken a whole night awake. I was

> so amazed that I had gained that level of control over my CNS. Now,

> this does not mean one should indulge in CNS stimulants because one

> can calm it down. Stay away from all stimulants.

>

> Key point about Gupta's program. It is NOT about ignoring your body

> or pushing yourself. ALWAYS rest when your body tells you to. This is

> a point of confusion for some. It is like telling a 2 year old

> child to stop getting too worked up about a twisted ankle, which is

> NOT the same as pretending it is not there and go running and injure

> it more.

>

>

> >

> > [Moderator: Check the file section and then post specific questions]

> > Hi there. I was struck with a viral infection 10 years ago, still

> > undefined. Initiall acute symptoms were fatigue, headaches,

> diarrhoea

> > or constipation, lymph node enlargement at back of head, neck and

> > groin, glossitis, fungal infections and so on.

> >

> > Later after 6 months of adjustments taking place in my body i was

> left

> > with ongoing symptoms (which have remained stable for the last 10

> > years) of

> >

> > -morning fatigue

> > -restless sleep (unless i exercise or stay awake one whole night)

> > -irritable bowel syndrome with constipation and bloating

> > -very low mental energy (VERY BOTHERSOME- i cannot read for more

> than

> > 30 minutes without needing a rest)- after 30 minutes everything i

> read

> > DOESNT MAKE SENSE, I FEEL FOGGY AND CONFUSED LIKE I WAS STUDYING

> FOR 5

> > HOURS. (YET i dont have this problem while on the computer- it seems

> > that the comp activates my HPA axis or something and i dont feel

> that

> > foggy or confused)

> > -lymphadenopathy

> >

> > etc etc

> >

> >

> > I quit my studies for many years now, because of inability to read

> for

> > longer than 30 minutes at a time, and concentrated on sports.

> Finally

> > ended up developing adrenal fatigue after two overtraining incidents

> > from too much weight lifting and coffee intake.

> >

> > Now im struck with both but i still care about being able to study.

> >

> > So, i wanted your info on supplements to take to get a clearer

> mental

> > thought and energy in order to be able to study for 2-3 hours at a

> > time. I need to finish my school, i feel so many guilts, 10 years

> and

> > i have done so little for my case. Only problem i really managed to

> > deal with is constipation and that is still only at some intervarls

> > not every time. Now i cant drink coffee or any sort of stimulator

> and

> > constipation and bloating is even worse.

> >

> > I have done all sorts of sophisticated testing regarding

> >

> > adrenal stress indices

> > thyroid testing

> > all sorts of hormone testing (even prohormones and metabolites)

> >

> > everything is ok apart from the low cortisol due to the adrenal

> > fatigue but this hasnt really affected the way i read, its the same

> > all this 10 years.

> >

> > The only two supplements i have tried and seemed to help in the

> past was

> >

> > a) Solgar Earth Nutrients (but cant take it longer than few days i

> get

> > massive bloating)

> > http://www.health4youonline.com/health_supplements_solgar_s1028-

> 30.htm

> >

> > Moodmax (strange supplement with many substances that i dont like

> > to ingest -like saw palmetto- affects my libido. Yet took it 3-4

> times

> > and felt incredible concentration and thought clarity

> >

> >

> > So pls, if anyone knows or has tried or has had similar problems

> like

> > me, this sort of functional brain fog that appears after 30 minutes,

> > pls suggest some good supplements that have worked for MENTAL ENERGY

> >

>

>

>

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> > >

> > > [Moderator: Check the file section and then post specific

questions]

> > > Hi there. I was struck with a viral infection 10 years ago,

still

> > > undefined. Initiall acute symptoms were fatigue, headaches,

> > diarrhoea

> > > or constipation, lymph node enlargement at back of head, neck

and

> > > groin, glossitis, fungal infections and so on.

> > >

> > > Later after 6 months of adjustments taking place in my body i

was

> > left

> > > with ongoing symptoms (which have remained stable for the last

10

> > > years) of

> > >

> > > -morning fatigue

> > > -restless sleep (unless i exercise or stay awake one whole

night)

> > > -irritable bowel syndrome with constipation and bloating

> > > -very low mental energy (VERY BOTHERSOME- i cannot read for more

> > than

> > > 30 minutes without needing a rest)- after 30 minutes everything

i

> > read

> > > DOESNT MAKE SENSE, I FEEL FOGGY AND CONFUSED LIKE I WAS STUDYING

> > FOR 5

> > > HOURS. (YET i dont have this problem while on the computer- it

seems

> > > that the comp activates my HPA axis or something and i dont feel

> > that

> > > foggy or confused)

> > > -lymphadenopathy

> > >

> > > etc etc

> > >

> > >

> > > I quit my studies for many years now, because of inability to

read

> > for

> > > longer than 30 minutes at a time, and concentrated on sports.

> > Finally

> > > ended up developing adrenal fatigue after two overtraining

incidents

> > > from too much weight lifting and coffee intake.

> > >

> > > Now im struck with both but i still care about being able to

study.

> > >

> > > So, i wanted your info on supplements to take to get a clearer

> > mental

> > > thought and energy in order to be able to study for 2-3 hours

at a

> > > time. I need to finish my school, i feel so many guilts, 10

years

> > and

> > > i have done so little for my case. Only problem i really

managed to

> > > deal with is constipation and that is still only at some

intervarls

> > > not every time. Now i cant drink coffee or any sort of

stimulator

> > and

> > > constipation and bloating is even worse.

> > >

> > > I have done all sorts of sophisticated testing regarding

> > >

> > > adrenal stress indices

> > > thyroid testing

> > > all sorts of hormone testing (even prohormones and metabolites)

> > >

> > > everything is ok apart from the low cortisol due to the adrenal

> > > fatigue but this hasnt really affected the way i read, its the

same

> > > all this 10 years.

> > >

> > > The only two supplements i have tried and seemed to help in the

> > past was

> > >

> > > a) Solgar Earth Nutrients (but cant take it longer than few

days i

> > get

> > > massive bloating)

> > > http://www.health4youonline.com/health_supplements_solgar_s1028-

> > 30.htm

> > >

> > > Moodmax (strange supplement with many substances that i dont

like

> > > to ingest -like saw palmetto- affects my libido. Yet took it 3-4

> > times

> > > and felt incredible concentration and thought clarity

> > >

> > >

> > > So pls, if anyone knows or has tried or has had similar problems

> > like

> > > me, this sort of functional brain fog that appears after 30

minutes,

> > > pls suggest some good supplements that have worked for MENTAL

ENERGY

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>