Re: osteoporosis: Magnesium, plus many other factors...

[Guest guest]

Hi Shan,

Is there a study to back up your claim that most osteoporosis these days is from

not

enough magnesium? I'm sure in many cases that is probably true, but one should

keep in

mind that there are many contributing factors to osteoporosis, including some

possible

bacterial or fungal involvement, gluten intolerance, celiac disease, and also

other possible

mineral deficiencies. The link you provided SELLS magnesium water, so of course

they

want to emphasize it's importance.

Don't get me wrong -- I'm not saying it's not important!

Here's a study that showed it helped increase bone density:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7770187

.....and another which involved patients with gluten intolerance:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9116391

But it's good to remember that other minerals like boron, manganese, zinc, and

vitamin D

and vitamin K, various proteins etc., are also critically important. It's

frustrating because

it's all a balance, and these things are very difficult to test for.

Perhaps making a broth from beef or chicken bones -- cooking it for a LONG time

--

might be a way to get nature's proper mix of all these nutrients? Just a

thought.

I would like to repost a study below that I posted back in August, that

suggested that

magnesium may increase candida growth. Note, this is an in vitro study...so not

sure if

this would apply in vivo...but here it is. It seems like zinc and calcium were

good for

helping to stop it, so perhaps if all these minerals were taken together (just a

guess), then

magnesium wouldn't increase the growth of candida?

Just my two cents!

Dan

Holmes AR, Cannon RD, Shepherd MG.

Experimental Oral Biology Unit, School of Dentistry, University of Otago,

Dunedin, New

Zealand.

In liquid culture using a synthetic medium, added magnesium but not calcium was

required for exponential growth of Candida albicans yeast cells.

However, medium without added divalent cations supported 2-3 generations of

yeast

growth or germ tube induction. The addition of calcium ions (1.0 mM) at any

stage during

the induction of germ tube formation caused reversion to a yeast mode of growth,

in

contrast to the effect of zinc and cobalt ions which were toxic to all growth.

Inhibition of

germ tube formation by calcium was not observed in the presence of either

magnesium

(10 microM) or manganese (100 microM). The presence of either of these ions

caused

inhibition of 45Ca uptake in yeast cultures.

We conclude that unrestricted calcium uptake resulted in the specific inhibition

of C.

albicans mycelial growth, indicating a critical role for calcium in the

regulation of C.

albicans morphogenesis.

Publication Types:

Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't

>

> You also need magnesium to absorb calcium. These days most

> osteioporosis is from not enough magnesium. You can take calcium to

> the cows come home but if you are magnesium deficient at all, it will

> do you no good. And 80% of the population is magnesium deficient.

> wwwmgwater.com

> blessings

> Shan

>

[Guest guest]

I would really like to know how you got the impression that either

of the two urls I gave for info about magnesium sold

magnesiun 'water'. [what is it that you call 'magnesium water'

anyways? I have never heard of it]

I know that they do not sell anything at www.magwater.com and

also Dr Sircus www.magnesiumforlife.com does not sell magnesium oil

or any magnesium products. The closest he would come to that would be

the magnesium products that are delivered to him for his patients. I

understand that he will no longer accept any patients for chelation

whom are magnesium deficient; if they want him to treat them with

chelation they have to get their magnesium levels up.

best wishes

Shan

> >

> > You also need magnesium to absorb calcium. These days most

> > osteioporosis is from not enough magnesium. You can take calcium

to

> > the cows come home but if you are magnesium deficient at all, it

will

> > do you no good. And 80% of the population is magnesium deficient.

> > wwwmgwater.com

> > blessings

> > Shan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry Shan -- didn't mean to sound like I totally negated the value of the

site -- it's

very informative and loaded with information on magnesium. It just doesn't seem

to

mention other minerals, etc., are important as well.

The second page on the 'mgwater.com' site has a whole page of companies that

sell water

high in magnesium:

http://www.mgwater.com/list5.shtml

This doesn't mean that the owner of the site gets commissions -- I hope he

doesn't and

doubt so. He probably just wants to make sure that people know there are other

options

out there -- companies that sell higher magnesium-content waters.

Best regards,

Dan

>

> I would really like to know how you got the impression that either

> of the two urls I gave for info about magnesium sold

> magnesiun 'water'. [what is it that you call 'magnesium water'

> anyways? I have never heard of it]

> I know that they do not sell anything at www.magwater.com...