Re: Fatigue/Malaise - Clarification

[Guest guest]

> The discrepancy between the definition of " Fatigue/Malaise " and the

> complaints of people with biotoxin associated illnesses is the

> obvious abnormality that doctors consistently fail to identify.

>

My first symptom in my first moldy home back in 1998 was extreme

fatigue. It lasted all summer, I did get a sinus infection and it was

treated and I was fine all winter. Then the next spring the same thing

happened very weak. Next came another sinus infection. Next severe

allergic reaction, then it all went down hill from there. But I do

feel better if I exercise and walk even though I can't walk up the

stairs very well at all.

[Guest guest]

> My first symptom in my first moldy home back in 1998 was extreme

fatigue. It lasted all summer, I did get a sinus infection and it

was treated and I was fine all winter. Then the next spring the

same thing happened very weak. Next came another sinus infection.

Next severe allergic reaction, then it all went down hill from

there. But I do feel better if I exercise and walk even though I

can't walk up the stairs very well at all. <

, that's a good example of a story that should have grabbed the

doctors interest because it brings up a strange contradiction.

The definition of fatigue is that it is the result of a stressor or

exertion so your description of feeling better after exercising

wouldn't fit the definition of fatigue.

And there is no exertion we know of the creates a fatigue that lasts

all summer. Even worse if there was no exertion to begin with.

" Physical or mental weariness resulting from exertion.

Something, such as tiring effort or activity, that causes weariness:

the fatigue of a long hike.

Physiology. The decreased capacity or complete inability of an

organism, an organ, or a part to function normally because of

excessive stimulation or prolonged exertion.

The weakening or failure of a material, such as metal or wood,

resulting from prolonged stress. "

And it would seem that if you had any prolonged stress or stressor

that was edging you toward systemic failure, it is countrary to the

fatigue concept for you to feel better by exercising instead of

feeling even more " fatigued " .

That leaves only the possibility of excessive physiological

stimulation from some unknown source that peculiarly STILL doesn't

fit the definition of fatigue if it fails to grow worse in the

presence of additional stimulus.

So despite the use of the word " fatigue " , which we have all done

since we literally don't have a word in our language that goes

directly to the point to express this complaint, the " abnormality "

in the illness presentation is the description of the sensation does

not meet the definition of fatigue.

And as Dr Shoemaker teaches us, if the data/observations that are

generated does not match the predicted results (as in

exertion/stress being responsible for fatigue) then the conceptual

model used for the prediction of that data is called into question.

And those who use the scientific method should have been induced to

search for something that can make you feel this sensation when you

are NOT fatigued from the normal things that cause it and are

instead INVIGORATED by what is thought to cause fatigue.

At least, that's the way science is supposed to work.

Desperation Medicine includes a terrific example of how the doctor

patient discourse is supposed to be followed to a logical conclusion.

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