Re: Rust colored stains on ceiling and walls

[Guest guest]

Possibly leaking through roof tar and pink insulation?

[] Rust colored stains on ceiling and walls

We have staining on ceiling and top of adjacent walls in the 'middle of

house' where I wouldn't suspect a leak normally, that is RUST COLORED. Can

water stains be rust colored? Not water from a pipe because I know water

from pipes can be rusty but this is on top of second floor so no water pipes

would be up in attic if it is from water, would be rain water. Perhaps

water hitting on some wiring that is rusting?? I just don't understand why

staining is rusty colored. Has anyone had rust colored stains on ceilings

or walls? Thanks, Barb

[Guest guest]

We have a very long (about 9' x 1.5') coming from the exterior wall and running

across the middle of our bedroom ceiling. I also wondered the same thing.

We've found this not to be a leak but to be mold growth on the opposite side.

We also have the same discoloration " growing " up the base-boards around almost

the entire apartment. There is (1) mold growing underneath the carpet in those

areas, and (2) mold growing in the empty space between the backside of the

base-board and the frontside of the drywall.

Wouldn't hurt to test the area. You can do a tape-lift directly on the area and

a lab should be able to tell what it is by the sample. That is what we had to

do because we do not have access to the attic, but needed to know what it was

.... and it was mold.

Good luck.

Barbra BW <bbw@...> wrote:

We have staining on ceiling and top of adjacent walls in the 'middle of

house' where I wouldn't suspect a leak normally, that is RUST COLORED. Can

water stains be rust colored? Not water from a pipe because I know water

from pipes can be rusty but this is on top of second floor so no water pipes

would be up in attic if it is from water, would be rain water. Perhaps

water hitting on some wiring that is rusting?? I just don't understand why

staining is rusty colored. Has anyone had rust colored stains on ceilings

or walls? Thanks, Barb

[Guest guest]

That's the color of all the stains on the ceiling tiles at my old place of

work. It was a suspended ceiling and the insulation was up against the

" rafters " .

Also, water can follow any path that can divert it away from the edges. At

work there were stains in the middle of the building and my mold inspector

measure moisture in the walls toward the joists in the middle and around the

doors. If there's plumbing or piping that water can trickle along, it will.

It can even roll down the wood. so don't just think that water leaks will

only occur around the outside edges of a home/business.

[] Rust colored stains on ceiling and walls

We have staining on ceiling and top of adjacent walls in the 'middle of

house' where I wouldn't suspect a leak normally, that is RUST COLORED. Can

water stains be rust colored? Not water from a pipe because I know water

from pipes can be rusty but this is on top of second floor so no water pipes

would be up in attic if it is from water, would be rain water. Perhaps

water hitting on some wiring that is rusting?? I just don't understand why

staining is rusty colored. Has anyone had rust colored stains on ceilings

or walls? Thanks, Barb

[Guest guest]

I not only have rust colored stains on my ceilings and

walls, but I clean with damp paper towels and shortly

after moving into this building, when I would wipe off

my furniture, microwave, " everything " the towels

would look like rust colored stains were on them. Sent

towels to lab and found out it was mold. Then got

culterettes from lab, and sent samples from under my

wall-to-wall carpeting and also from the heating/AC

vents and found this place is loaded with mold, and

that's why I got so sick shortly after movoing into

this mold-infested apt. Barb E.

--- Barbra BW <bbw@...> wrote:

> We have staining on ceiling and top of adjacent

> walls in the 'middle of

> house' where I wouldn't suspect a leak normally,

> that is RUST COLORED. Can

> water stains be rust colored? Not water from a pipe

> because I know water

> from pipes can be rusty but this is on top of second

> floor so no water pipes

> would be up in attic if it is from water, would be

> rain water. Perhaps

> water hitting on some wiring that is rusting?? I

> just don't understand why

> staining is rusty colored. Has anyone had rust

> colored stains on ceilings

> or walls? Thanks, Barb

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I wonder why the rusty color??

----- Original Message -----

From: " Barbara " <floridabound03200@...>

>I not only have rust colored stains on my ceilings and

> walls, but I clean with damp paper towels and shortly

> after moving into this building, when I would wipe off

> my furniture, microwave, " everything " the towels

> would look like rust colored stains were on them. Sent

> towels to lab and found out it was mold. Then got

> culterettes from lab, and sent samples from under my

> wall-to-wall carpeting and also from the heating/AC

> vents and found this place is loaded with mold, and

> that's why I got so sick shortly after movoing into

> this mold-infested apt. Barb E.

[Guest guest]

I don't know why it is a rusty color. Good question.

But when I first saw it, I never thought about it

being mold, because of the color. In fact, I didn't

have any idea what it was, and that's why I sent it to

a lob to be tested. I wanted to know what was getting

all over my furniture, as well as my clothes in the

closet. And I was lucky enough to have the director of

the lab, refer me to an expert in the field, and when

I told him about the rusty color stuff that was all

over everything, he immediately told me it was mold.

And when I got the results back from the lab, sure

enough, it was mold. And the expert also told me all

the health problems that you can get from being

exposed to mold, but since I was not that sick at that

time, I had a difficult time accepting what he told

me. But, I soon found out everything he said was

correct, and unfortunately, during the past 4 years, I

have developed just about every problem he told me

about.

Barb E.

--- Barbra BW <bbw@...> wrote:

> I wonder why the rusty color??

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Barbara " <floridabound03200@...>

>

>

> >I not only have rust colored stains on my ceilings

> and

> > walls, but I clean with damp paper towels and

> shortly

> > after moving into this building, when I would wipe

> off

> > my furniture, microwave, " everything " the towels

> > would look like rust colored stains were on them.

> Sent

> > towels to lab and found out it was mold. Then got

> > culterettes from lab, and sent samples from under

> my

> > wall-to-wall carpeting and also from the

> heating/AC

> > vents and found this place is loaded with mold,

> and

> > that's why I got so sick shortly after movoing

> into

> > this mold-infested apt. Barb E.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Barb E,

I guess I will do a tape lift on the rusty colored stuff. I'm shocked

because I've been talking about mold almost for a year now but kept passing

that stuff up. It was all over the basement too when I moved in. I

wondered about it but just washed off what I could get and then eventually

painted over whatever was left. I have wallpaper on ceilings and walls here

because it is old plaster wall house and usually they wallpapers to warm up

the walls and to hide tiny hairline cracks that inevitably develope when

house does any settling.

Barb B

----- Original Message -----

From: " Barbara " <floridabound03200@...>

>I don't know why it is a rusty color. Good question.

> But when I first saw it, I never thought about it

> being mold, because of the color. In fact, I didn't

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbra BW,

You said you washed it off the basement walls and then

painted over it. Has it come back? In my apt. I can

clean everyday and get rust colored dirt off things,

especially the TV screen, computer screen, microwave,

mirrors, the toilet tank, Rubbermaid storage

containers, etc. It even gets on my dishes in the

kitchen cabinets. Absolutely disgusting. And I think

the problem is, it's in the duct work and under my

carpeting, and since I have central air and hot air

heat, it just blows it all over everything. It's

really a losing battle that I am fighting.

Barb E.

--- Barbra BW <bbw@...> wrote:

> Hi Barb E,

> I guess I will do a tape lift on the rusty colored

> stuff. I'm shocked

> because I've been talking about mold almost for a

> year now but kept passing

> that stuff up. It was all over the basement too

> when I moved in. I

> wondered about it but just washed off what I could

> get and then eventually

> painted over whatever was left. I have wallpaper on

> ceilings and walls here

> because it is old plaster wall house and usually

> they wallpapers to warm up

> the walls and to hide tiny hairline cracks that

> inevitably develope when

> house does any settling.

> Barb B

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Barbara " <floridabound03200@...>

>

>

> >I don't know why it is a rusty color. Good

> question.

> > But when I first saw it, I never thought about it

> > being mold, because of the color. In fact, I

> didn't

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

This was years ago when I first moved here. No it didn't come back in

basement where I cleaned. It could have been in that case something else.

There had been multiple sewer line backups in garage area, adjacent to

basement and then one in basement (no carpeting or flooring) or furniture

down there. It may have been from that. I don't know. I just remember

wandering what the rust colored, almost looked like splash marks, were. My

great aunt who was in her 90's lived here at the time so I know the history

of house. She bought it in 1942! She did become experience a stroke at

this time. I was so busy taking care of her after that that it was awhile

before I could attend to the orangey or rust colored spots or splats on

basement walls and table down there.

Perhaps flooding that happened down there has impacted my health. I didn't

live with her when I took care of her so wasn't around it 24 hours but since

she died in 2001 I've lived here fulltime and had the time to start the

'cleanup'

----- Original Message -----

From: " Barbara " <floridabound03200@...>

> Hi Barbra BW,

> You said you washed it off the basement walls and then

> painted over it. Has it come back? In my apt. I can

> clean everyday and get rust colored dirt off things,

> especially the TV screen, computer screen, microwave,

> mirrors, the toilet tank, Rubbermaid storage

> containers, etc. It even gets on my dishes in the

> kitchen cabinets. Absolutely disgusting. And I think

> the problem is, it's in the duct work and under my

> carpeting, and since I have central air and hot air

> heat, it just blows it all over everything. It's

> really a losing battle that I am fighting.

> Barb E.

[Guest guest]

When I left the windows open in my studio for the summer, everything

molded, and I had every color of the rainbow- from white to black-

and from flat to puffy to giant round balls of green on the back of

paintings- was a museum display for mold-Everything had to be

cleaned, then I sprayed it with a 3m product made for indoor use-

(can't remember its name-bought it on an internet allergy store)

installed a de-humidifyer- closed the windows- and never had anymore

growth problems-at least ones that i could see. Based on this I

began to look into the crawl space issue, why open the vents in the

summer? if it did this to a room, what about under the house? a

closed crawl space and a de-humidifyer makes allot more sense in the

humid summertime.

- In , Barbara

<floridabound03200@y...> wrote:

> I don't know why it is a rusty color. Good question.

> But when I first saw it, I never thought about it

> being mold, because of the color. In fact, I didn't

> have any idea what it was, and that's why I sent it to

> a lob to be tested. I wanted to know what was getting

> all over my furniture, as well as my clothes in the

> closet. And I was lucky enough to have the director of

> the lab, refer me to an expert in the field, and when

> I told him about the rusty color stuff that was all

> over everything, he immediately told me it was mold.

> And when I got the results back from the lab, sure

> enough, it was mold. And the expert also told me all

> the health problems that you can get from being

> exposed to mold, but since I was not that sick at that

> time, I had a difficult time accepting what he told

> me. But, I soon found out everything he said was

> correct, and unfortunately, during the past 4 years, I

> have developed just about every problem he told me

> about.

> Barb E.

>

> --- Barbra BW <bbw@f...> wrote:

>

> > I wonder why the rusty color??

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Barbara " <floridabound03200@y...>

> >

> >

> > >I not only have rust colored stains on my ceilings

> > and

> > > walls, but I clean with damp paper towels and

> > shortly

> > > after moving into this building, when I would wipe

> > off

> > > my furniture, microwave, " everything " the towels

> > > would look like rust colored stains were on them.

> > Sent

> > > towels to lab and found out it was mold. Then got

> > > culterettes from lab, and sent samples from under

> > my

> > > wall-to-wall carpeting and also from the

> > heating/AC

> > > vents and found this place is loaded with mold,

> > and

> > > that's why I got so sick shortly after movoing

> > into

> > > this mold-infested apt. Barb E.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Move or bite the bullet! Your health is worth it- tape up those

moldy ducts or if you own them have them pulled out- put in a window

AC! radient ceiling panels for heat are cheaper than being sick

>

> > Hi Barb E,

> > I guess I will do a tape lift on the rusty colored

> > stuff. I'm shocked

> > because I've been talking about mold almost for a

> > year now but kept passing

> > that stuff up. It was all over the basement too

> > when I moved in. I

> > wondered about it but just washed off what I could

> > get and then eventually

> > painted over whatever was left. I have wallpaper on

> > ceilings and walls here

> > because it is old plaster wall house and usually

> > they wallpapers to warm up

> > the walls and to hide tiny hairline cracks that

> > inevitably develope when

> > house does any settling.

> > Barb B

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Barbara " <floridabound03200@y...>

> >

> >

> > >I don't know why it is a rusty color. Good

> > question.

> > > But when I first saw it, I never thought about it

> > > being mold, because of the color. In fact, I

> > didn't

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Wish I could move, but I can't - no where to go. I

live in an apartment building for low-income seniors.

This building was built in 1927, was a JR. High School

for many years, then closed down and boarded up for

about a dozen years, before it was sold and turned

into apts. We aren't allowed to have window air

conditioners. And if I would tape up the ducts, I

wouldn't get any AC or heat. Can't really open the

windows - too large and too heavy - old fashioned

school windows. Only a couple of other low-income

senior apt. buildings around here and they have

waiting lists that are years long. After I moved in

here in 2001 and started getting sick, and discovered

it was from the mold, I notified the health dept., the

code enforcement office, and the housing authority, as

well as the owners, but no one cares. I guess when

you're old and poor in the US, you don't have a

chance.

Barb E.

--- carondeen <kdeanstudios@...> wrote:

> Move or bite the bullet! Your health is worth it-

> tape up those

> moldy ducts or if you own them have them pulled out-

> put in a window

> AC! radient ceiling panels for heat are cheaper than

> being sick

>

>

> >

> > > Hi Barb E,

> > > I guess I will do a tape lift on the rusty

> colored

> > > stuff. I'm shocked

> > > because I've been talking about mold almost for

> a

> > > year now but kept passing

> > > that stuff up. It was all over the basement too

> > > when I moved in. I

> > > wondered about it but just washed off what I

> could

> > > get and then eventually

> > > painted over whatever was left. I have

> wallpaper on

> > > ceilings and walls here

> > > because it is old plaster wall house and usually

> > > they wallpapers to warm up

> > > the walls and to hide tiny hairline cracks that

> > > inevitably develope when

> > > house does any settling.

> > > Barb B

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: " Barbara " <floridabound03200@y...>

> > >

> > >

> > > >I don't know why it is a rusty color. Good

> > > question.

> > > > But when I first saw it, I never thought about

> it

> > > > being mold, because of the color. In fact, I

> > > didn't

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

I realize for many people, being sick is an easier option than

moving. That is the only option that I can see that would help. When

it gets cool, save and buy a room plug in radient heater- they look

like a old fashioned radiator- I sometimes see them for $10 at yard

sales- then tape up the ducts after the cooling season is over. good

luck

> > >

> > > > Hi Barb E,

> > > > I guess I will do a tape lift on the rusty

> > colored

> > > > stuff. I'm shocked

> > > > because I've been talking about mold almost for

> > a

> > > > year now but kept passing

> > > > that stuff up. It was all over the basement too

> > > > when I moved in. I

> > > > wondered about it but just washed off what I

> > could

> > > > get and then eventually

> > > > painted over whatever was left. I have

> > wallpaper on

> > > > ceilings and walls here

> > > > because it is old plaster wall house and usually

> > > > they wallpapers to warm up

> > > > the walls and to hide tiny hairline cracks that

> > > > inevitably develope when

> > > > house does any settling.

> > > > Barb B

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: " Barbara " <floridabound03200@y...>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >I don't know why it is a rusty color. Good

> > > > question.

> > > > > But when I first saw it, I never thought about

> > it

> > > > > being mold, because of the color. In fact, I

> > > > didn't

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

Wow. That explains alot. Schools tend to have mold problems. They

probably boarded it up for years because noone wanted it. It's hard to sue

when seniors die or are sick, because they can say it is because of age.

Problems are probably worse in summer due to humidity, so I would attack the

notion you can't have a window air conditioner. They look tacky but if it

is a health issue, they should be allowed, so you will need to make a loud

noise about the mold issue and need for improvements and in the short term,

be able to use a window air conditioner.

----- Original Message -----

From: " Barbara " <floridabound03200@...>

> Wish I could move, but I can't - no where to go. I

> live in an apartment building for low-income seniors.

> This building was built in 1927, was a JR. High School

> for many years, then closed down and boarded up for

> about a dozen years, before it was sold and turned

> into apts. We aren't allowed to have window air

> conditioners. And if I would tape up the ducts, I

> wouldn't get any AC or heat. Can't really open the

> windows - too large and too heavy - old fashioned

> school windows. Only a couple of other low-income

> senior apt. buildings around here and they have

> waiting lists that are years long. After I moved in

> here in 2001 and started getting sick, and discovered

> it was from the mold, I notified the health dept., the

> code enforcement office, and the housing authority, as

> well as the owners, but no one cares. I guess when

> you're old and poor in the US, you don't have a

> chance.

> Barb E.

>

[Guest guest]

Fesh air, I think, is a necessity of life, demand that the windows

be made operable---

In , " Barbra BW " <bbw@f...> wrote:

> Wow. That explains alot. Schools tend to have mold problems.

They

> probably boarded it up for years because noone wanted it. It's

hard to sue

> when seniors die or are sick, because they can say it is because

of age.

> Problems are probably worse in summer due to humidity, so I would

attack the

> notion you can't have a window air conditioner. They look tacky

but if it

> is a health issue, they should be allowed, so you will need to

make a loud

> noise about the mold issue and need for improvements and in the

short term,

> be able to use a window air conditioner.

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Barbara " <floridabound03200@y...>

>

>

> > Wish I could move, but I can't - no where to go. I

> > live in an apartment building for low-income seniors.

> > This building was built in 1927, was a JR. High School

> > for many years, then closed down and boarded up for

> > about a dozen years, before it was sold and turned

> > into apts. We aren't allowed to have window air

> > conditioners. And if I would tape up the ducts, I

> > wouldn't get any AC or heat. Can't really open the

> > windows - too large and too heavy - old fashioned

> > school windows. Only a couple of other low-income

> > senior apt. buildings around here and they have

> > waiting lists that are years long. After I moved in

> > here in 2001 and started getting sick, and discovered

> > it was from the mold, I notified the health dept., the

> > code enforcement office, and the housing authority, as

> > well as the owners, but no one cares. I guess when

> > you're old and poor in the US, you don't have a

> > chance.

> > Barb E.

> >