Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Angel MCS wrote: > The so called little MAGIC boxes DO WORK..... > The doctors wife in this office has CFS and would presumably have access to the homeopathic remedies and full time access to all available therapies. She's still sick. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 My feeling is at least Dr Krop is trying to find reason/cure, which is so much better than allopathic treatments. I don't know if machine works or not but other treatments Dr Krop was using is what my MD/Holistic doctors do and they do much more for my health than my 'award winning internist' ever did (awarded multiple times as one of Cincinnati's Best Doctors). I blame our government for fact we don't know much about natural cures. Government should be conducting research on curing disease. Instead they have turned it over to the pharmaceutical industry which has no industry in cures at all, particularly natural cures so Holistic doctors and other doctors seeking to cure patients work with alot of guesswork. Dr Shoe does research but most doctors aren't set up for this type of practice to close at 2 pm to do research and book writing. They listen and hear about different approaches to cures and try them. They are just as much doped by false hope as patient when it is false hope. However many such new devices work. I've used some of them, not approved by FDA with good results. I won't go into which, as it would be too long a post. > I know all about those Vegas Machines! > You take a gamble, grab the handle, and lose your money. > > them must be wrong - and that if their views are supposedly based on > science - at least one of them must be an idiot. But I guess as > long as the patients are willing to overlook their obvious confusion > and pay them for their contradictory advice, they were willing to > keep on accepting the situation - and the money. > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 I would sure hate to overlook any emerging technology that has demonstrated its effectiveness. But how do you winnow the seed from the chaff? There are so many claims, and many times people will describe how a therapy helped them, but later you find they are still searching desperately for some new therapy to try, and you have to wonder that if it had worked as well as described, why is the person still seemingly just as sick and still searching? I have a standing offer to ampligen survivors to accompany me while climbing Mt Whitney or any other mountain they choose so we can discuss the merits of our respective approaches and let us see which concept makes it to the top of the mountain first. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 I totally agree with Angel on this. Jitao Bai, my BioSET practitioner in Georgia, who uses a Meridian Stress Assessment machine and is well versed in supplements, Chinese herbs and homeopathic remedies---is GREAT!!! Before my first appointment almost 6 months ago, most of my awful symptoms (fatigue, memory loss, forgetfulness, low-grade fever, etc.) had already been eliminated. Since seeing her, my personality is back, my hair is slowing growing back in the bald areas of my scalp, my fingernails look 3x better, inflammation & redness on my face is clearing up nicely, my " leaky gut " is seemingly healed, etc. I searched high & low for her (Dr Bai used to be a physician in China), even considering going out to see a BioSET practitioner in California (a registered nurse, but came highly recommended by the BioSET Institute), but am glad I decided to give Dr Bai a shot. I sure am getting my time & money's worth going to see her (it's a 6+ hr drive one-way, every 2 weeks). Enough said. > > > The so called little MAGIC boxes DO WORK..... > > > > > > > The doctors wife in this office has CFS and would presumably have > > access to the homeopathic remedies and full time access to all > > available therapies. > > She's still sick. > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Angel MCS > The machine helps to ALLEVIATE NOT CURE....the symptoms....system damage is damage..... > > You are RIGHT near his office....do it then send your response... Alleviation is worthwhile even without a cure. I find that the strategy of avoidance works so well that other measures have not been warranted. I'll have to break protocol in order to induce some symptoms for the machine to treat, but this sounds like a worthy experiment. It's always good to speak from experience. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 > Let me put it this way..DO NOT tell her your problems...and see if the EAV machine FINDs them...would you be convinced then?????? > That would certainly do it for me! I've held off on such tests because I've seen such disappointing results in those who have been to these doctors for many years. My mother went to Dr Brodie years ago. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Regarding article about Dr Krop and vegas machine. I also think apparently from article that action against Dr Krop was NOT due to use of vega machine but that all his treatment was cited as 'non- traditional' and therefore unacceptable. Article cited he was not doing 'what other doctors were doing' and THAT is the basis for many a mal practice lawsuit sadly. That is one reason it is so hard to get good treatment since one doctor just following the other to avoid mal practice lawsuits. Practice may be wrong BUT if they ALL follow same procedure as dumb as it is, no mal practice lawsuit can be filed, because he is doing WHAT ALL OTHER DOCTORS ARE DOING. I think that was significant thing about article. None of his patients were harmed (as opposed to many patients of traditional medicine who are) but that he was just doing something different. This is important to this group in that also Dr Shoemaker, etc, are practicing medicine DIFFERENTLY than most doctors. --- In , Angel MCS <jap2bemc@s...> wrote: > > > The machine helps to ALLEVIATE NOT CURE....the symptoms....system damage > is damage..... > > You are RIGHT near his office....do it then send your response... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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