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Hi Angelika,

I'm not a mold expert, but I have MCS. And I know that the Environmental

Health Center in Dallas is considered the premiere place for Environmental

Illness/MCS treatment; people come from all over the world to be seen by Dr

Rea there. I cannot say what they do for mold though. For MCS I know

that preservative free allergy testing and neutralization shots are

sometimes used as well as an intensive sauna therapy program. You could call

them to find out exactly what kind of treatments they use for mold.

I do know someone who went there a couple years ago for MCS and toxic mold

exposure. Her MCS improved after Dallas but once she went back to the real

world, her symptoms worsened. She is now trying Cholestyramine and says she

is feeling much better after just a few days.

Don't know if that helps any....

Genser

MCS-Global Coordinator for NYC, West Village www.mcs-global.org

Global Recognition Campaign for Multiple Chemical Sensitivity

& other Chemically Induced Illnesses, Diseases & Injury

From: " platy99 " <moldhelp@...>

http://www.ehcd.com/index.html

Hello all,

I was doing soem reseach ont he web and came across thisplace. They claim to

to able to treat people who have had exposure to molds etc.

Woul dlike to get an opinon from the experts on this boared to se eif this

place is ful of it or might be onto something.

Angelika

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Considering that MCSers laid into me for claiming that I abated MCS to

the point of insignificance through mold avoidance even harder than

how bitterly the denier doctors fought me over the sheer existence of

MCS, it's going to be interesting to see how the relationship between

mold and chemical sensitivity developes.

As Dr Shoemaker says, I have yet to see an MCSer who was not a mold

responder - yet few were even aware of the mold component.

Any attempt to make them aware of the myctoxin connection

consistently makes MCSer even more upset than denier doctors are when

they are contradicted by MCS patients.

We have seen that drs show absolutely no regret, reomorse nor even a

twinge of self doubt after having been scientifically shown that they

were completely wrong to so eagerly contradict and deny the experience

of people who had better information.

It will be interesting to find out if MCSers are the same as doctors.

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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:21:34 -0500

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Subject: Re: Re: Blood counts GREG

HI GREG--I HAVE EXTREME FATIGUE, YES. I ALSO HAVE ATROPHIED MUSCLE

IN MY RT. LEG, ESPECIALLY, SINCE MY RLE (ANKLE & FOOT) ARE STILL

PARALYZED. I GET INTERMITTENT PAIN IN MY BACK ACROSS MY KIDNEY

AREA--AS YET UNDIAGNOSED. FEELS LIKE A KIDNEY STONE, BUT ISN'T. AS

FAR AS ALCOHOL I DON'T DRINK HARDLY AT ALL, SO CAN'T ANSWER THAT ONE.

I DID HAVE A COCKTAIL SAT. NITE FOR MY B'DAY, BUT DID OK WITH THAT.

TAKE CARE,

VICTORIA

Pain in the kidney area is likely to be adrenal. An effective old

fashioned remedy is a castor oil pack on the area-- castor oil on a

cloth, with a hot water bottle. It increases circulation and helps

relive toxic congestion to the liver as well. Aurora

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Aurora Levins Morales, Ph. D.

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Berkeley, CA 94703

510-540-1262

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Angel MCS <jap2bemc@s...> wrote:

> I think you are a little bit obessive over the mold causing MCs

issue.

> I have YET to meet ANYONE here in Vegas who has a mold problem who

has MCS.

>

> Do not misinterprete that I am implying no one has a problem with

> mold....as it's obvious in the state buildings here. But they do

not seem to think that they have MCs.

>

Angel MCS, you've misinterpreted what I said.

Shoemaker and I have yet to see an MCSer who isn't a mold responder

meaning that mold responders respond to mold and MCSers do too.

Unless those people in Vegas are only having a problem with the

allergic component of mold, their illness is a reaction to

mycotoxins, which means these people are sensitive to chemicals from

mold. Gosh, one might even say that it was " MCS " .

(Maybe they should give those " Vegas " machines a try)

And it appears that a lot of MCSers may not be aware that mold can

be a driving force as much as other chemicals since a lot of them

are suffering from the misperception that mold is just an allergy

and pay no special attention to exposures.

" obsessive " ? Hey, that's the exact word the doctors use when people

complain bitterly about mold.

Glad to be " obsessive " then because I dragged myself out this

despite all their contradictions, intransigence and denial while

less " obsessed " people are still getting their butts kicked.

I think that may have been the reason Dr Shoemaker so kindly

subtitled my chapter " History Doesn't Remember the Critics " .

We obsessive types just go ahead with our obsessions and don't

listen to the critics.

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stacy, re dust off story,

It is sad but unfortunately, sometimes children have a hard time and don't

communicate with their parents. My husband is a cop and he sees the worst things

every day. The child also has to learn to be comfortable to want to talk to

their parents even before a tradegy occurs.Those my first son's tragedy was

different ie cancer. I still don't wish that on anyone. Many time children don't

know how to express them selves even as they get older, and that can be a big

problem. You don't know how they are feeling. jeanne

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