parasites

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In a message dated 07/09/2005 13:18:30 GMT Daylight Time, stephanie.scott@... writes:

They get no soya or artificials or corn. They get a lot of unprocessed meat, and rice, and quinoa, and low/no phenol fruit/veg. They get maple syrup in their rice porridge and fruit sugar in the form of pears and apples. Breakfast is just rice poridge with maple syrup and calcium powder, and all the supplements. Lunch and tea are equal parts meat, veg and starch, usu rice or quinoa or maybe lentils. snacks include cashews, fresh/dried fruit, rice cakes with nut butter. They drink water or very diluted pear juice

>>>>This is awesome diet I would consider droppng the dried fruit for a week or two and seeing if that helps - yeast sits on the skin.

I've met your kids, they look real good and healthy, but of course I didn't get to change one of Teddys nappies LOL

See you soon

Mandi x

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In a message dated 07/09/2005 15:38:25 GMT Daylight Time, jane_hogan@... writes:

Does anyone know what the biokult protocol is for their probiotics? I seem to remember that you have to work up to around 5 a day and then drop back to a maintenance dose. I just do not know where to find this information.

>>>Just rign them up and have a chat with C-McBride, he'll talk you through it. I thought it was work slowly up to 6, hold for 12 weeks, reduce slowly to find maintenace dose.

www.bio-kult.com

for their number

Mandi

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Does anyone know what the biokult protocol is for their probiotics? I seem to remember that you have to work up to around 5 a day and then drop back to a maintenance dose. I just do not know where to find this information.

Thanks,

Jane

Re: Parasites> > > > > > In a message dated 07/09/2005 10:45:12 GMT Daylight Time, > stephanie.scott@t... writes:> > Teddy has been on nystatin and culturelle and glutamine for a > month now. She has a big rash all over her bum and her poos are > mostly liquid. Alasdair's poos are loose and fluffy, and he has > been on his regimen for about 5 months. Why are we not getting > better stools? They have actually got worse with biomed. They went > all pale and soft the moment we put him on the GFCF diet 16 months > ago. Before they used to be large, brown and mostly formed. > > > > >>>>I think its time to consider a change to Alasdairs > regime...........> > > > Mandi x> > > > > > DISCLAIMER> > No information contained in this post is to be construed as > medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a > suitably qualified practitioner.> > > > > > > > > >

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Hi Steph

Oh jeez, I hate rocking the boat! OK, softly softly, what would you consider doing? Not taking him off GFCF?

>>>No, not if its helping

In every other way he improved a lot on it.

>>>Stick with it then for sure

There were no other nasties detected except clostridia, and we are giving him culturelle for that.

>>>Tests are not definitive. Very few get rid of Clostrida with Culrurelle alone

I cld try removing all carbs for a few days, to see if he wld benefit from SCD, or I could remove all fruit for a few days, to see if that is responsible?

>>>if he has loose and fluffy stools after 5 months on a regime I'd switch protocol. Doesn;t sound to me like Nystatin and Culturelle are enough to sort it. Have you ever tried Candex or Biocidin as killers? CP1 or BioKult for probio's?

Mandi x

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OK, that's food for thought -candex works for yeast - does biocidin attack clostridia? How often should I have these tests redone for the presence of yeast and clostridia? For me, the stools have got steadily worse while he continues to make gains in all other areas - weird, isn't it?

Steph

xo

Re: Parasites

Hi Steph

Oh jeez, I hate rocking the boat! OK, softly softly, what would you consider doing? Not taking him off GFCF?

>>>No, not if its helping

In every other way he improved a lot on it.

>>>Stick with it then for sure

There were no other nasties detected except clostridia, and we are giving him culturelle for that.

>>>Tests are not definitive. Very few get rid of Clostrida with Culrurelle alone

I cld try removing all carbs for a few days, to see if he wld benefit from SCD, or I could remove all fruit for a few days, to see if that is responsible?

>>>if he has loose and fluffy stools after 5 months on a regime I'd switch protocol. Doesn;t sound to me like Nystatin and Culturelle are enough to sort it. Have you ever tried Candex or Biocidin as killers? CP1 or BioKult for probio's?

Mandi x

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Hi Steph

OK, that's food for thought -candex works for yeast - does biocidin attack clostridia?

>>>I think it does but each child will have different response

How often should I have these tests redone for the presence of yeast and clostridia? For me, the stools have got steadily worse while he continues to make gains in all other areas - weird, isn't it?

>>>Yes, maybe worth testing again now - did you do it through Great Smokies before? I would do a CDSa with parasiteology, see whats goign on in there

Mand x

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I'd do it myself through Doctor's Data rather than Great Smokies, which I used to worship (sad isn't it) but has gone downhill. Their reports now are MUCH briefer. Apparently the head of Great Smokies went over to DD. Just a thought.

Abigail

Re: Parasites

Hi Steph

OK, that's food for thought -candex works for yeast - does biocidin attack clostridia?

>>>I think it does but each child will have different response

How often should I have these tests redone for the presence of yeast and clostridia? For me, the stools have got steadily worse while he continues to make gains in all other areas - weird, isn't it?

>>>Yes, maybe worth testing again now - did you do it through Great Smokies before? I would do a CDSa with parasiteology, see whats goign on in there

Mand x

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Hi Joe,

A stool sample is the usual way to check for parasites. The test

is called an “O and P” – ova (eggs) and parasites –

where the stool sample is carefully looked at through a microscope. That’s

probably what they did with your stool sample, but you can ask. And parasites

don’t always show up on the O and P test.

As for herbal treatments – be sure to deal with someone

who knows what they’re doing! You don’t want to mess up your gut!!

Some herbal treatments include garlic and black walnut tincture. There’s

a whole web page at http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/conditionsitoq/a/Parasites.htm

(I’m not saying it’s accurate, but it’s there!)

My doc also used a strong antibiotic that stays in your intestinal

tract. It’s called humatin (paromomycin.) It is a prescription drug; he

liked it because it doesn’t go through your whole body.

Whatever you do, be sure the people you’re asking for help

know what they’re doing!!

Good luck

Bob Munk

Coordinator

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Footsie57

Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:55 PM

Subject: Parasites

I have recently become aware that I might have

parasites, only because I have been very gassy (more than ususal)bloaty,

crampy, my poo is sometime loose and sometimes not and well and my anus began

to itch and well I did a bit of investigation and that's what it sounds alot

like the symptoms I have....and I did have a stool sample test for the anemia I

had but it brought up nothing ......Though I don't know if they did test for

parasites. Anyway was wondering if anyone had any Herbal/Holistic treatment they

could recommend?

Thanks!

Joe

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JoeYour symptoms can also be caused by diet choices. When I eat too many carbs, I tend to have your symptoms. Eating more fruit (specially oranges for me), greek style yogurt, lean meats, and taking digestive enzymes help me rebalance my gut.Dr Kaiser is a big believer that parasites have a lot of influence on our health. People dispute this statement. He uses this test http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/stool.asp Regards, VergelPoWeRUSA.orgFrom: Footsie57 <footsie57@...> Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 6:54:30 PMSubject: Parasites

I have recently become aware that I might have parasites, only because I have been very gassy (more than ususal)bloaty, crampy, my poo is sometime loose and sometimes not and well and my anus began to itch and well I did a bit of investigation and that's what it sounds alot like the symptoms I have....and I did have a stool sample test for the anemia I had but it brought up nothing ......Though I don't know if they did test for parasites. Anyway was wondering if anyone had any Herbal/Holistic treatment they could recommend?Thanks!Joe------------------------------------Welcome to our group!If you received this email from someone who forwarded it to you and would like to join this group, send a blank email to -subscribe and you will get an email with instructions to

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"I have recently become aware that I might have parasites, only because I have been very gassy (more than ususal)bloaty, crampy, my poo is sometime loose and sometimes not and well and my anus began to itch and well I did a bit of investigation and that's what it sounds alot like the symptoms I have."Loose stools and gas are very common in people with HIV. This can be from parasites, or more commonly, as a side effect from medications. I'd strongly suggest that you discuss this with your doctor. It will be easy to decide if you have parasites after a stool examination by a laboratory.In the meantime, I'd suggest avoiding uncooked leafy vegetables, especially salads. Add cheeses, dairy, and applesauce to your diet. See if that helps.JB

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Are you sure it's okay (safe) to give this to such a young child? Have you

thought of checking this with Bioray?

Margaret

>

> hi all

> i have a few questions about parasites .my skin is crawling and stomach

turning thinking about it but...

> i gave vermox am and pm for 3 days around the full moon.is this adequate?

> the baby is only 16mths ..i obviously didnt give it to him but i gave him 1

dropper of artemesia and clove by bioray split in 2 doses am and pm.

> joe had the most horrendus diarrhoea with a really offensive smell .is this a

good sign? he regressed terribly with this tx -is this usual?

> is there anything else i should be doing long term

> it says to repeat a dose in 14 days -does that mean i should do one tab or do

a 3 day course again ??

> thanks again for any advice on this

> claire

>

[Guest guest]

Are you sure it's okay (safe) to give this to such a young child? Have you

thought of checking this with Bioray?

Margaret

>

> hi all

> i have a few questions about parasites .my skin is crawling and stomach

turning thinking about it but...

> i gave vermox am and pm for 3 days around the full moon.is this adequate?

> the baby is only 16mths ..i obviously didnt give it to him but i gave him 1

dropper of artemesia and clove by bioray split in 2 doses am and pm.

> joe had the most horrendus diarrhoea with a really offensive smell .is this a

good sign? he regressed terribly with this tx -is this usual?

> is there anything else i should be doing long term

> it says to repeat a dose in 14 days -does that mean i should do one tab or do

a 3 day course again ??

> thanks again for any advice on this

> claire

>

[Guest guest]

Are you sure it's okay (safe) to give this to such a young child? Have you

thought of checking this with Bioray?

Margaret

>

> hi all

> i have a few questions about parasites .my skin is crawling and stomach

turning thinking about it but...

> i gave vermox am and pm for 3 days around the full moon.is this adequate?

> the baby is only 16mths ..i obviously didnt give it to him but i gave him 1

dropper of artemesia and clove by bioray split in 2 doses am and pm.

> joe had the most horrendus diarrhoea with a really offensive smell .is this a

good sign? he regressed terribly with this tx -is this usual?

> is there anything else i should be doing long term

> it says to repeat a dose in 14 days -does that mean i should do one tab or do

a 3 day course again ??

> thanks again for any advice on this

> claire

>

[Guest guest]

I have read that if patient is on supplements or other meds, Vermox can cause side effects. Problems with some AEDs as well.

 

It sounds like your son had a mega purge from his colon.. and if he already has gastro issues, I wonder if this has affected the way his body can assimilate and uptake nutrients..

 

There are some other ways to treat worms, like lots of garlic, raw pumpkin seeds etc, or the approach you have used with your younger child. The Vermox has a lot of chemicals in its formulation.. which may simply be too much for your son.

 

Tracey

 

Are you sure it's okay (safe) to give this to such a young child? Have you thought of checking this with Bioray?Margaret

>> hi all> i have a few questions about parasites .my skin is crawling and stomach turning thinking about it but...> i gave vermox am and pm for 3 days around the full moon.is this adequate?

> the baby is only 16mths ..i obviously didnt give it to him but i gave him 1 dropper of artemesia and clove by bioray split in 2 doses am and pm.> joe had the most horrendus diarrhoea with a really offensive smell .is this a good sign? he regressed terribly with this tx -is this usual?

> is there anything else i should be doing long term> it says to repeat a dose in 14 days -does that mean i should do one tab or do a 3 day course again ??> thanks again for any advice on this > claire

>

[Guest guest]

I have read that if patient is on supplements or other meds, Vermox can cause side effects. Problems with some AEDs as well.

 

It sounds like your son had a mega purge from his colon.. and if he already has gastro issues, I wonder if this has affected the way his body can assimilate and uptake nutrients..

 

There are some other ways to treat worms, like lots of garlic, raw pumpkin seeds etc, or the approach you have used with your younger child. The Vermox has a lot of chemicals in its formulation.. which may simply be too much for your son.

 

Tracey

 

Are you sure it's okay (safe) to give this to such a young child? Have you thought of checking this with Bioray?Margaret

>> hi all> i have a few questions about parasites .my skin is crawling and stomach turning thinking about it but...> i gave vermox am and pm for 3 days around the full moon.is this adequate?

> the baby is only 16mths ..i obviously didnt give it to him but i gave him 1 dropper of artemesia and clove by bioray split in 2 doses am and pm.> joe had the most horrendus diarrhoea with a really offensive smell .is this a good sign? he regressed terribly with this tx -is this usual?

> is there anything else i should be doing long term> it says to repeat a dose in 14 days -does that mean i should do one tab or do a 3 day course again ??> thanks again for any advice on this > claire

>

[Guest guest]

I have read that if patient is on supplements or other meds, Vermox can cause side effects. Problems with some AEDs as well.

 

It sounds like your son had a mega purge from his colon.. and if he already has gastro issues, I wonder if this has affected the way his body can assimilate and uptake nutrients..

 

There are some other ways to treat worms, like lots of garlic, raw pumpkin seeds etc, or the approach you have used with your younger child. The Vermox has a lot of chemicals in its formulation.. which may simply be too much for your son.

 

Tracey

 

Are you sure it's okay (safe) to give this to such a young child? Have you thought of checking this with Bioray?Margaret

>> hi all> i have a few questions about parasites .my skin is crawling and stomach turning thinking about it but...> i gave vermox am and pm for 3 days around the full moon.is this adequate?

> the baby is only 16mths ..i obviously didnt give it to him but i gave him 1 dropper of artemesia and clove by bioray split in 2 doses am and pm.> joe had the most horrendus diarrhoea with a really offensive smell .is this a good sign? he regressed terribly with this tx -is this usual?

> is there anything else i should be doing long term> it says to repeat a dose in 14 days -does that mean i should do one tab or do a 3 day course again ??> thanks again for any advice on this > claire

>

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Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + constipation+digging.

Digging is a real parasite red flag to us.

Vicky

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Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + constipation+digging.

Digging is a real parasite red flag to us.

Vicky

[Guest guest]

Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + constipation+digging.

Digging is a real parasite red flag to us.

Vicky

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margaret

i think i confused you- the baby is fine and yes i did research the artenesia

and clove.its my ds with autism that had the diarrhoea -with 2 worms in it .i

had done art and clove before but it doesnt go after the big guys!

i think tracey is right in that he has had a clear out -noone else got diarrhoea

in the house -i was just wondering if others see

this

claire

> >

> > hi all

> > i have a few questions about parasites .my skin is crawling and stomach

turning thinking about it but...

> > i gave vermox am and pm for 3 days around the full moon.is this adequate?

> > the baby is only 16mths ..i obviously didnt give it to him but i gave him 1

dropper of artemesia and clove by bioray split in 2 doses am and pm.

> > joe had the most horrendus diarrhoea with a really offensive smell .is this

a good sign? he regressed terribly with this tx -is this usual?

> > is there anything else i should be doing long term

> > it says to repeat a dose in 14 days -does that mean i should do one tab or

do a 3 day course again ??

> > thanks again for any advice on this

> > claire

> >

>

[Guest guest]

and killing them is very painful to host! Parasites are an ongoing problem here

and to be honest we're too knackered to take them on again. The die off,

however much charcoal and risk of mercury mobilisation just freaks the pants off

me :-(

>

> Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a

> whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge

like

> you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do

> we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure

> where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black

> walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is

> not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem +

> constipation+digging.

> Digging is a real parasite red flag to us.

> Vicky

>

[Guest guest]

I was recommended Omega blood wash for parasites, although i haven't tried it yet.

http://omegabloodwash.com/product_info.php?products_id=29

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To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: mark.grabiec@...Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 19:05:13 +0000Subject: Re: parasites

and killing them is very painful to host! Parasites are an ongoing problem here and to be honest we're too knackered to take them on again. The die off, however much charcoal and risk of mercury mobilisation just freaks the pants off me :-(>> Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a > whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like > you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do > we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure > where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black > walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is > not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + > constipation+digging.> Digging is a real parasite red flag to us.> Vicky>

[Guest guest]

I was recommended Omega blood wash for parasites, although i haven't tried it yet.

http://omegabloodwash.com/product_info.php?products_id=29

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To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: mark.grabiec@...Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 19:05:13 +0000Subject: Re: parasites

and killing them is very painful to host! Parasites are an ongoing problem here and to be honest we're too knackered to take them on again. The die off, however much charcoal and risk of mercury mobilisation just freaks the pants off me :-(>> Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a > whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like > you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do > we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure > where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black > walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is > not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem + > constipation+digging.> Digging is a real parasite red flag to us.> Vicky>

[Guest guest]

Oh it's just awful isn't it? I'm seriously wishing I'd left the blasted critters alone because this is the biggest assault Iv'e given them and they are really fighting back now, not a good day today.

Vicky

Re: parasites

and killing them is very painful to host! Parasites are an ongoing problem here and to be honest we're too knackered to take them on again. The die off, however much charcoal and risk of mercury mobilisation just freaks the pants off me :-(

>

> Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a

> whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like

> you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do

> we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure

> where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black

> walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is

> not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem +

> constipation+digging.

> Digging is a real parasite red flag to us.

> Vicky

>

[Guest guest]

Oh it's just awful isn't it? I'm seriously wishing I'd left the blasted critters alone because this is the biggest assault Iv'e given them and they are really fighting back now, not a good day today.

Vicky

Re: parasites

and killing them is very painful to host! Parasites are an ongoing problem here and to be honest we're too knackered to take them on again. The die off, however much charcoal and risk of mercury mobilisation just freaks the pants off me :-(

>

> Hmm I'm wondering about parasite cleanse also, bear in mind I have a

> whopping great 13 yr old compared to your little one. We had a big purge like

> you but now we have constipation and bum picking again so I'm thinking do

> we have a case of what doesn't kill them makes them stronger? Not sure

> where to go now with parasite treatment, also am I right in thinking black

> walnut is high oxalate? If so this could be where Iv'e gone wrong, he is

> not a happy bunny, appears how he does when oxalates are a problem +

> constipation+digging.

> Digging is a real parasite red flag to us.

> Vicky

>