Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 Hello Barb, It must be so hard to hear such news and to look back on the past and wonder about all the " if only " things. It is common for parents to feel guilty for having " missed " the signs, but few people knew much about OCD back then, so it's not your fault. Try to absolve yourself, accepting that you did the best you knew how in the circumstances. Looking forward, though, the good news is that OCD is very treatable with Behavior Therapy (BT) or medication or sometimes both. BT focuses on life-long coping strategies for managing OCD, so it's definitely something your son should look into. It is usually provided by a therapist who specializes in such therapy, but there are some excellent self-help books that both you and your son can access, if therapy is not accessible right now. Stop Obsessing by Edna Foa, Ph.D. and Brain Lock by Schwartz are two of them that are very readable. The OC Foundation (www.ocfoundation.org) has a more extensive list of books and other very targeted articles and resources that you might find helpful. There are several other organizations for people with anxiety and OCD as well. Since you are acroos the country from your son, I'm sure that just being understanding, accepting and supportive, and by directing him to good resources will be very valuable to him. Reading and knowing as much as you can about OCD is a very big way to help you son right now. I would strongly encourage you to learn and read all you can about Behavior Therapy for OCD because it is very effective! If your son decides to do it, I suggest that he choose a therapist carefully, and only after knowing that this person specifically does BT for OCD---going to a therapist who does not can be a very disappointing and frustrating experience. You did not mention where your son lives but hte OCF and the Anxiety Disorders Assoc of America www.adaa.org can provide names of therapists in his geographic area. Hang in there! Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D. New To This Group > I am the mother of a 24 yr. old adult son who has just yesterday been > diagnosed with OCD. I know nothing about this disorder. He claims his > OCD is with his thought process. My son lives clear across the US > from me, and I need to know, should I become an active participant > with his doctors about his care, and the type of support he needs > with this treatment? He lives with a girlfriend, but they, nor I, can > afford these office visits. He is asking his dad to help him out > financially to get this care he will need for now. He has health > insurance, but he did not earn enough last year to get health > coverage for this particular medical care. His grandma died in early > June, and I never would have thought this son of mine would take her > death as hard as he did. Her death apparently brought out this worst > episode of this OCD that he has. He just knew he needed to get some > kind of medical attention because of the things he was thinking. If > any of the membership here has anything they would like to advise me > about, with his care, his medication, support or anything, please e- > mail me. I love this kid with all my heart, and I feel so badly that > he apparently has been dealing with this disorder all his life. I > feel so guilty that I never realized how much frustration and anxiety > he lived with all these years. I knew my son was not like my other > two sons, because he was always more challenging to discipline, and > discuss with him anything he did that needed correction. I went as > far as to ask the pediatrician if he was hyperactive. They said he > was not. I do believe if the word is not " hyper " , it very well > was " anxious " behavior, which this young man always seemed to be, if > not " hyper " . Any help with this, and any info would be greatly > appreciated. He surprises me in going along with taking the > medication they have perscribed for him. He needs to be on it for at > least nine months. His words. He really was against taking any kind > of medication if he got medical care. Thankyou for listening. I know > this is long, and I apologize for that. Just don't know what to make > of this news, and don't know how much I need to support my son with > his OCD. > > Barb M. > > > > > You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. The Archives, Files, and Features List for the may be accessed by going to , enter your email address and password, then point and click. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2000 Report Share Posted August 17, 2000 At 08:37 PM 8/17/00 -0000, you wrote: >I am the mother of a 24 yr. old adult son who has just yesterday been >diagnosed with OCD. I love this kid with all my heart, and I feel so badly that >he apparently has been dealing with this disorder all his life. I >feel so guilty that I never realized how much frustration and anxiety >he lived with all these years. Barb - I just wanted to say that I understand that. My daughter turns 18 in a couple months and we just figured out a year ago that she has OCD. Looking back now, I remember so many things that were OCD driven and were making her anxious & miserable - but I just couldn't figure them out then. But she and your son both have a LOT of living ahead of them, and a lot of good things to look forward to. Understanding OCD and getting treatment will help so much. One really good thing your son has going for him is your support - because too often people kind of roll their eyes and think it all must be an exaggeration. Too many of us parents-of-OCDers have relatives who are sure the real problem is our parenting skills... sigh. But that's why this list is so great! Know you are not alone - and neither is your son! -- Vicki in Montana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 Rob lives in LA, Ca., and so, yes I worry about his getting billed totally out of his affordable price range. That area is geared for the wealthy, and those therapists out there are probably not use to low income patients, though I believe he explained all that to the doctors. You don't feel at this his age I should be an active participant for my son with his care? No contacting the doctor or therapist, or whoever it is he is seeing? I just want the doctor to know that my son has concerned family who are monitoring his care, even from a distance, if that would help. Rob is out there to " break into show biz " , and this has not been easy on me, as a parent to except his line of work. He has done commercial, some TV and some movie background work for a few years, and recently made changes in his agencies. Has not worked alot, as a result, and of course this has been stressful for him, and all that goes with that line of employment. Thankyou for all your information. I do have alot of reading to do! I appreciate your advice, and info. Thanks again ever so much for responding. Barb M. -- On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:36:37 Aureen Pinto Wagner wrote: >Hello Barb, >It must be so hard to hear such news and to look back on the past and wonder >about all the " if only " things. It is common for parents to feel guilty for >having " missed " the signs, but few people knew much about OCD back then, so >it's not your fault. Try to absolve yourself, accepting that you did the >best you knew how in the circumstances. > >Looking forward, though, the good news is that OCD is very treatable with >Behavior Therapy (BT) or medication or sometimes both. BT focuses on >life-long coping strategies for managing OCD, so it's definitely something >your son should look into. It is usually provided by a therapist who >specializes in such therapy, but there are some excellent self-help books >that both you and your son can access, if therapy is not accessible right >now. Stop Obsessing by Edna Foa, Ph.D. and Brain Lock by Schwartz >are two of them that are very readable. The OC Foundation >(www.ocfoundation.org) has a more extensive list of books and other very >targeted articles and resources that you might find helpful. There are >several other organizations for people with anxiety and OCD as well. Since >you are acroos the country from your son, I'm sure that just being >understanding, accepting and supportive, and by directing him to good >resources will be very valuable to him. > >Reading and knowing as much as you can about OCD is a very big way to help >you son right now. I would strongly encourage you to learn and read all you >can about Behavior Therapy for OCD because it is very effective! If your >son decides to do it, I suggest that he choose a therapist carefully, and >only after knowing that this person specifically does BT for OCD---going to >a therapist who does not can be a very disappointing and frustrating >experience. You did not mention where your son lives but hte OCF and the >Anxiety Disorders Assoc of America www.adaa.org can provide names of >therapists in his geographic area. > >Hang in there! > >Aureen Pinto Wagner, Ph.D. > > > New To This Group > > >> I am the mother of a 24 yr. old adult son who has just yesterday been >> diagnosed with OCD. I know nothing about this disorder. He claims his >> OCD is with his thought process. My son lives clear across the US >> from me, and I need to know, should I become an active participant >> with his doctors about his care, and the type of support he needs >> with this treatment? He lives with a girlfriend, but they, nor I, can >> afford these office visits. He is asking his dad to help him out >> financially to get this care he will need for now. He has health >> insurance, but he did not earn enough last year to get health >> coverage for this particular medical care. His grandma died in early >> June, and I never would have thought this son of mine would take her >> death as hard as he did. Her death apparently brought out this worst >> episode of this OCD that he has. He just knew he needed to get some >> kind of medical attention because of the things he was thinking. If >> any of the membership here has anything they would like to advise me >> about, with his care, his medication, support or anything, please e- >> mail me. I love this kid with all my heart, and I feel so badly that >> he apparently has been dealing with this disorder all his life. I >> feel so guilty that I never realized how much frustration and anxiety >> he lived with all these years. I knew my son was not like my other >> two sons, because he was always more challenging to discipline, and >> discuss with him anything he did that needed correction. I went as >> far as to ask the pediatrician if he was hyperactive. They said he >> was not. I do believe if the word is not " hyper " , it very well >> was " anxious " behavior, which this young man always seemed to be, if >> not " hyper " . Any help with this, and any info would be greatly >> appreciated. He surprises me in going along with taking the >> medication they have perscribed for him. He needs to be on it for at >> least nine months. His words. He really was against taking any kind >> of medication if he got medical care. Thankyou for listening. I know >> this is long, and I apologize for that. Just don't know what to make >> of this news, and don't know how much I need to support my son with >> his OCD. >> >> Barb M. >> >> >> >> >> You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In >the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. The Archives, >Files, and Features List for the may be accessed by >going to , enter your email address and password, >then point and click. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be >addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . >> >> >> >> > > > > >You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. The Archives, Files, and Features List for the may be accessed by going to , enter your email address and password, then point and click. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 Barb, I forgot to mention: Once you are armed with a reading list, check your local library for the books before you invest in them. Becoming involved with your son's therapist or doctor is something you should discuss with your son. Since he is 24, he will be the best judge of how he would like you to be involved, depending on the nature of your relationship. There are many ways to let his doctors know your son has caring and concerned parents, including sending a letter, leaving a message, having your son take a letter from you, etc, but again, it's something you and your son should find mutually helpful and acceptable. Take care, Aureen P. Wagner, Ph.D. New To This Group > > > > > >> I am the mother of a 24 yr. old adult son who has just yesterday been > >> diagnosed with OCD. I know nothing about this disorder. He claims his > >> OCD is with his thought process. My son lives clear across the US > >> from me, and I need to know, should I become an active participant > >> with his doctors about his care, and the type of support he needs > >> with this treatment? He lives with a girlfriend, but they, nor I, can > >> afford these office visits. He is asking his dad to help him out > >> financially to get this care he will need for now. He has health > >> insurance, but he did not earn enough last year to get health > >> coverage for this particular medical care. His grandma died in early > >> June, and I never would have thought this son of mine would take her > >> death as hard as he did. Her death apparently brought out this worst > >> episode of this OCD that he has. He just knew he needed to get some > >> kind of medical attention because of the things he was thinking. If > >> any of the membership here has anything they would like to advise me > >> about, with his care, his medication, support or anything, please e- > >> mail me. I love this kid with all my heart, and I feel so badly that > >> he apparently has been dealing with this disorder all his life. I > >> feel so guilty that I never realized how much frustration and anxiety > >> he lived with all these years. I knew my son was not like my other > >> two sons, because he was always more challenging to discipline, and > >> discuss with him anything he did that needed correction. I went as > >> far as to ask the pediatrician if he was hyperactive. They said he > >> was not. I do believe if the word is not " hyper " , it very well > >> was " anxious " behavior, which this young man always seemed to be, if > >> not " hyper " . Any help with this, and any info would be greatly > >> appreciated. He surprises me in going along with taking the > >> medication they have perscribed for him. He needs to be on it for at > >> least nine months. His words. He really was against taking any kind > >> of medication if he got medical care. Thankyou for listening. I know > >> this is long, and I apologize for that. Just don't know what to make > >> of this news, and don't know how much I need to support my son with > >> his OCD. > >> > >> Barb M. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In > >the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. The Archives, > >Files, and Features List for the may be accessed by > >going to , enter your email address and password, > >then point and click. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be > >addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > >You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. The Archives, Files, and Features List for the may be accessed by going to , enter your email address and password, then point and click. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . > > > > > > > > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > > > > You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. The Archives, Files, and Features List for the may be accessed by going to , enter your email address and password, then point and click. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 Barb M. It is great to hear about all the information gathering you are doing! Dr. Herb Gravitz has a book titled: " Obsessive Compulsive disorder, New Help for the Family " . Its about 200 pages and very easy to read. You may want to look for it in the library and perhaps share it with other relatives and friends. I would suggest that Rob connect with the OCD-L for support from other people with ocd, support people and professionals. This info is at the bottom of each of our posts - but to be sure here it is again!! " You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. " I know there are other people from Los Angeles on that list and they can help connect him with services like support groups, etc. Take care, wendy in canada wb4@... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2000 Report Share Posted August 18, 2000 Thankyou ever so much for the kind words of advice about involvement. Rob has expressed a need to be understood, at least for the sake of knowing he is in a crisis right now. He does express moral support. I love all my boys, and they know that, and we all keep in touch fairly regularly. I have graduated from the " letting go " stage, awhile now, and really simply enjoy their calls, and their visits, for the two that live out of state. Rob's other brother is a Marine in Miramar, San Diego, and they do visit and call each other from time to time. They at least have each other close by enough for that feeling of family, and security in an otherwise totally different area of the country. They both love it out in California. When I speak to Rob, the next conversation, I will ask him if he would like for me to support him by speaking with his doctor(s). I would like to do so, but won't if he doesn't want this of me. Thankyou again, Dr. Aureen, for you time with this. I am all new to this, and want to know all about it and be helpful to my son. From a distance, or otherwise, if he approves! I know he loves my conversations with him, as he seemed so relieved he finally understood he could label his problem! He wants to help himself, and I have commended him for his courageous effort to seek medical attention. He is finding out other's he has know for years, are confiding in him they have been in care for similiar situations. That makes him feel better about all this. He felt crazy. Now he just feels relieved. And so grateful he finally knows himself alot better! It's a beginning. " The first day of the rest of his life " , is how I paraphrased it for him. He repeated that to his very supportive girlfriend in the background. He liked that. Be blessed for your help. Thanks. Barb M. -- On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 06:56:34 Aureen Pinto Wagner wrote: >Barb, >I forgot to mention: Once you are armed with a reading list, check your >local library for the books before you invest in them. >Becoming involved with your son's therapist or doctor is something you >should discuss with your son. Since he is 24, he will be the best judge of >how he would like you to be involved, depending on the nature of your >relationship. There are many ways to let his doctors know your son has >caring and concerned parents, including sending a letter, leaving a message, >having your son take a letter from you, etc, but again, it's something you >and your son should find mutually helpful and acceptable. >Take care, >Aureen P. Wagner, Ph.D. > > New To This Group >> > >> > >> >> I am the mother of a 24 yr. old adult son who has just yesterday been >> >> diagnosed with OCD. I know nothing about this disorder. He claims his >> >> OCD is with his thought process. My son lives clear across the US >> >> from me, and I need to know, should I become an active participant >> >> with his doctors about his care, and the type of support he needs >> >> with this treatment? He lives with a girlfriend, but they, nor I, can >> >> afford these office visits. He is asking his dad to help him out >> >> financially to get this care he will need for now. He has health >> >> insurance, but he did not earn enough last year to get health >> >> coverage for this particular medical care. His grandma died in early >> >> June, and I never would have thought this son of mine would take her >> >> death as hard as he did. Her death apparently brought out this worst >> >> episode of this OCD that he has. He just knew he needed to get some >> >> kind of medical attention because of the things he was thinking. If >> >> any of the membership here has anything they would like to advise me >> >> about, with his care, his medication, support or anything, please e- >> >> mail me. I love this kid with all my heart, and I feel so badly that >> >> he apparently has been dealing with this disorder all his life. I >> >> feel so guilty that I never realized how much frustration and anxiety >> >> he lived with all these years. I knew my son was not like my other >> >> two sons, because he was always more challenging to discipline, and >> >> discuss with him anything he did that needed correction. I went as >> >> far as to ask the pediatrician if he was hyperactive. They said he >> >> was not. I do believe if the word is not " hyper " , it very well >> >> was " anxious " behavior, which this young man always seemed to be, if >> >> not " hyper " . Any help with this, and any info would be greatly >> >> appreciated. He surprises me in going along with taking the >> >> medication they have perscribed for him. He needs to be on it for at >> >> least nine months. His words. He really was against taking any kind >> >> of medication if he got medical care. Thankyou for listening. I know >> >> this is long, and I apologize for that. Just don't know what to make >> >> of this news, and don't know how much I need to support my son with >> >> his OCD. >> >> >> >> Barb M. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . >In >> >the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. The >Archives, >> >Files, and Features List for the may be accessed >by >> >going to , enter your email address and password, >> >then point and click. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may >be >> >addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In >the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. The Archives, >Files, and Features List for the may be accessed by >going to , enter your email address and password, >then point and click. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be >addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com >> >> >> >> You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In >the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. The Archives, >Files, and Features List for the may be accessed by >going to , enter your email address and password, >then point and click. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be >addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . >> >> >> >> > > > > >You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. 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Guest guest Posted August 19, 2000 Report Share Posted August 19, 2000 HI Barb: Welcome to the list. YOu are doing very well to be reaching out for help and support so soon after your son's diagnosis. What you are learning, that there is a lot of hope and good help available for OCD but that it is expensive, is something that is true for all of us. You will certainly be making a very important and helpful contribution to your son if you can help him financially with accessing the right kind of care for OCD. My son, Steve, now 13, had his OCD triggered by the suicide of his grandmother which followed shortly after the death of his grandfather. It took us almost three years to figure out he had anxiety! Talk about guilt. One thing I have learned is that guilt is very normal but it is very destructive and not at all helpful in dealing with OCD. Your son is lucky to have such a loving and supportive family by his side as he learns to fight back against his OCD. Although it is generally not possible to cure OCD, our children can learn to control it to a large degree so it is more in the background of their lives. Learning to do this is not easy and takes a lot of bravery, determination and persistence on the part of our kids. Sometimes we see one step forward and two steps back so we have to be unbelievably patient and calm when we feel anything but. It is wonderful that your son is so willing to get treatment and to take the medication that he needs to help him. IMO the cognitive behavior therapy (CBT) including exposure and response prevention (E & RP), although hard to learn and practice at first, is the most powerful treatment for OCD. Also once they have received this therapy, they have learned important skills to control OCD and, unlike medication, once therapy is discontinued they do not tend to relapse so readily. If you have any specific questions I am sure there will be many on the list who can answer or share similar experiences with their family. Take care, aloha, Kathy (H) kathyh@... P.S. Your son might like to join the OCD-L, which is a listserve for sufferers with OCD. I have found this an invaluable resource in understanding OCD. K. At 08:37 PM 08/17/2000 +0000, you wrote: >I am the mother of a 24 yr. old adult son who has just yesterday been >diagnosed with OCD. I know nothing about this disorder. He claims his >OCD is with his thought process. My son lives clear across the US >from me, and I need to know, should I become an active participant >with his doctors about his care, and the type of support he needs >with this treatment? He lives with a girlfriend, but they, nor I, can >afford these office visits. He is asking his dad to help him out >financially to get this care he will need for now. He has health >insurance, but he did not earn enough last year to get health >coverage for this particular medical care. His grandma died in early >June, and I never would have thought this son of mine would take her >death as hard as he did. Her death apparently brought out this worst >episode of this OCD that he has. He just knew he needed to get some >kind of medical attention because of the things he was thinking. If >any of the membership here has anything they would like to advise me >about, with his care, his medication, support or anything, please e- >mail me. I love this kid with all my heart, and I feel so badly that >he apparently has been dealing with this disorder all his life. I >feel so guilty that I never realized how much frustration and anxiety >he lived with all these years. I knew my son was not like my other >two sons, because he was always more challenging to discipline, and >discuss with him anything he did that needed correction. I went as >far as to ask the pediatrician if he was hyperactive. They said he >was not. I do believe if the word is not " hyper " , it very well >was " anxious " behavior, which this young man always seemed to be, if >not " hyper " . Any help with this, and any info would be greatly >appreciated. He surprises me in going along with taking the >medication they have perscribed for him. He needs to be on it for at >least nine months. His words. He really was against taking any kind >of medication if he got medical care. Thankyou for listening. I know >this is long, and I apologize for that. Just don't know what to make >of this news, and don't know how much I need to support my son with >his OCD. > >Barb M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2000 Report Share Posted August 19, 2000 Barb: Welcome to the list. All of the parents here have experience and information to share. I would like to recommend that your son find out the community mental health agencies in his area. I live in Ohio, and our county mental health board(s) offer services to those in need of counseling and medication. This is done on a sliding scale for those without insurance for for those without adequate insurance. Sad to say, parity in mental health coverage is still not a reality. Many of these agencies also offer support groups for consumers, led by a licensed therapist. I believe someone mentioned the OCD-L which would also be a support for him. For both you and your son I recommend getting involved with NAMI -- the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill. I'm sure there is a local affiliate near each of you. Visit www.nami.org to find out. Their website is a wealth of information about anything to do with mental illness of any kind. Their national conference was held in San Diego in early July. Of course, specific to OCD is the OC Foundation's website. Jule in Cleveland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2000 Report Share Posted August 20, 2000 thanx Jule for you recommendations. Will definitely check out NAMI. Appreciate all the info I can get. Barb -- On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:49:35 j.monnens wrote: > > >Barb: > >Welcome to the list. All of the parents here have experience and information to >share. > >I would like to recommend that your son find out the community mental health >agencies in his area. I live in Ohio, and our county mental health board(s) >offer services to those in need of counseling and medication. This is done on a >sliding scale for those without insurance for for those without adequate >insurance. Sad to say, parity in mental health coverage is still not a reality. >Many of these agencies also offer support groups for consumers, led by a >licensed therapist. I believe someone mentioned the OCD-L which would also be a >support for him. > >For both you and your son I recommend getting involved with NAMI -- the National >Alliance for the Mentally Ill. I'm sure there is a local affiliate near each of >you. Visit www.nami.org to find out. Their website is a wealth of information >about anything to do with mental illness of any kind. Their national conference >was held in San Diego in early July. Of course, specific to OCD is the OC >Foundation's website. > >Jule in Cleveland > > > > > >You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. The Archives, Files, and Features List for the may be accessed by going to , enter your email address and password, then point and click. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2000 Report Share Posted August 20, 2000 Hi Kathy! I belong to a couple other support groups on the internet, one being Marine Moms Online. Have been a member of that fine group of wonderful folks for well over a year and a half now, so, am use to jumping right on in with needing help, questions to ask, and seeking out what I don't understand. This OCD I don't understand, at all, and being that I am long-distance from my son, makes it all the more difficult for me to absorb. I am just glad he did seek out help. He knew he was very desperate at this point, since his grandma died. She was a loving, supportive, grandma, and all our boys adored her. Yet, Rob just couldn't deal with her death, and his reaction to seeing her in her casket, triggered an extreme reaction. This puzzles me because he attended his other grandma and grandpa's wakes and funerals. He lost a couple friends over the years, too. No reaction compares to this visibly shaken reaction with this latest loss. Maybe the conditions were just ripe for this to happen at this point in his life. ly, hearing others suggest " metal illness " recommendation links, shakes me into reality alot and saddens me that my son is suffering from severe emotional and mental conflicts. I do have one question? What are the " triggers " to OCD? Are they different for everyone, or is there a set pattern for these " triggers " . I said something to my son here on the internet with AIM, and he said I said something characterized as a " trigger " . I don't want to create more problems then he has! I felt so bad I said something I shouldn't have. Thanx Kathy for your response, and support. I know this wonderful, informative group will definitely educate me. I appreciate that. Be Blessed...... Barb -- On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:08:14 Kathy Hammes wrote: >HI Barb: > >Welcome to the list. YOu are doing very well to be reaching out for help >and support so soon after your son's diagnosis. > >What you are learning, that there is a lot of hope and good help available >for OCD but that it is expensive, is something that is true for all of us. >You will certainly be making a very important and helpful contribution to >your son if you can help him financially with accessing the right kind of >care for OCD. > >My son, Steve, now 13, had his OCD triggered by the suicide of his >grandmother which followed shortly after the death of his grandfather. It >took us almost three years to figure out he had anxiety! Talk about guilt. > One thing I have learned is that guilt is very normal but it is very >destructive and not at all helpful in dealing with OCD. > >Your son is lucky to have such a loving and supportive family by his side >as he learns to fight back against his OCD. Although it is generally not >possible to cure OCD, our children can learn to control it to a large >degree so it is more in the background of their lives. Learning to do this >is not easy and takes a lot of bravery, determination and persistence on >the part of our kids. Sometimes we see one step forward and two steps back >so we have to be unbelievably patient and calm when we feel anything but. > >It is wonderful that your son is so willing to get treatment and to take >the medication that he needs to help him. IMO the cognitive behavior >therapy (CBT) including exposure and response prevention (E & RP), although >hard to learn and practice at first, is the most powerful treatment for >OCD. Also once they have received this therapy, they have learned >important skills to control OCD and, unlike medication, once therapy is >discontinued they do not tend to relapse so readily. > >If you have any specific questions I am sure there will be many on the list >who can answer or share similar experiences with their family. Take care, >aloha, Kathy (H) >kathyh@... > >P.S. Your son might like to join the OCD-L, which is a listserve for >sufferers with OCD. I have found this an invaluable resource in >understanding OCD. K. > >At 08:37 PM 08/17/2000 +0000, you wrote: >>I am the mother of a 24 yr. old adult son who has just yesterday been >>diagnosed with OCD. I know nothing about this disorder. He claims his >>OCD is with his thought process. My son lives clear across the US >>from me, and I need to know, should I become an active participant >>with his doctors about his care, and the type of support he needs >>with this treatment? He lives with a girlfriend, but they, nor I, can >>afford these office visits. He is asking his dad to help him out >>financially to get this care he will need for now. He has health >>insurance, but he did not earn enough last year to get health >>coverage for this particular medical care. His grandma died in early >>June, and I never would have thought this son of mine would take her >>death as hard as he did. Her death apparently brought out this worst >>episode of this OCD that he has. He just knew he needed to get some >>kind of medical attention because of the things he was thinking. If >>any of the membership here has anything they would like to advise me >>about, with his care, his medication, support or anything, please e- >>mail me. I love this kid with all my heart, and I feel so badly that >>he apparently has been dealing with this disorder all his life. I >>feel so guilty that I never realized how much frustration and anxiety >>he lived with all these years. I knew my son was not like my other >>two sons, because he was always more challenging to discipline, and >>discuss with him anything he did that needed correction. I went as >>far as to ask the pediatrician if he was hyperactive. They said he >>was not. I do believe if the word is not " hyper " , it very well >>was " anxious " behavior, which this young man always seemed to be, if >>not " hyper " . Any help with this, and any info would be greatly >>appreciated. He surprises me in going along with taking the >>medication they have perscribed for him. He needs to be on it for at >>least nine months. His words. He really was against taking any kind >>of medication if he got medical care. Thankyou for listening. I know >>this is long, and I apologize for that. Just don't know what to make >>of this news, and don't know how much I need to support my son with >>his OCD. >> >>Barb M. > > > > > >You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. The Archives, Files, and Features List for the may be accessed by going to , enter your email address and password, then point and click. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2000 Report Share Posted August 20, 2000 Hi Kathy! I belong to a couple other support groups on the internet, one being Marine Moms Online. Have been a member of that fine group of wonderful folks for well over a year and a half now, so, am use to jumping right on in with needing help, questions to ask, and seeking out what I don't understand. This OCD I don't understand, at all, and being that I am long-distance from my son, makes it all the more difficult for me to absorb. I am just glad he did seek out help. He knew he was very desperate at this point, since his grandma died. She was a loving, supportive, grandma, and all our boys adored her. Yet, Rob just couldn't deal with her death, and his reaction to seeing her in her casket, triggered an extreme reaction. This puzzles me because he attended his other grandma and grandpa's wakes and funerals. He lost a couple friends over the years, too. No reaction compares to this visibly shaken reaction with this latest loss. Maybe the conditions were just ripe for this to happen at this point in his life. ly, hearing others suggest " metal illness " recommendation links, shakes me into reality alot and saddens me that my son is suffering from severe emotional and mental conflicts. I do have one question? What are the " triggers " to OCD? Are they different for everyone, or is there a set pattern for these " triggers " . I said something to my son here on the internet with AIM, and he said I said something characterized as a " trigger " . I don't want to create more problems then he has! I felt so bad I said something I shouldn't have. Thanx Kathy for your response, and support. I know this wonderful, informative group will definitely educate me. I appreciate that. Be Blessed...... Barb -- On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:08:14 Kathy Hammes wrote: >HI Barb: > >Welcome to the list. YOu are doing very well to be reaching out for help >and support so soon after your son's diagnosis. > >What you are learning, that there is a lot of hope and good help available >for OCD but that it is expensive, is something that is true for all of us. >You will certainly be making a very important and helpful contribution to >your son if you can help him financially with accessing the right kind of >care for OCD. > >My son, Steve, now 13, had his OCD triggered by the suicide of his >grandmother which followed shortly after the death of his grandfather. It >took us almost three years to figure out he had anxiety! Talk about guilt. > One thing I have learned is that guilt is very normal but it is very >destructive and not at all helpful in dealing with OCD. > >Your son is lucky to have such a loving and supportive family by his side >as he learns to fight back against his OCD. Although it is generally not >possible to cure OCD, our children can learn to control it to a large >degree so it is more in the background of their lives. Learning to do this >is not easy and takes a lot of bravery, determination and persistence on >the part of our kids. Sometimes we see one step forward and two steps back >so we have to be unbelievably patient and calm when we feel anything but. > >It is wonderful that your son is so willing to get treatment and to take >the medication that he needs to help him. IMO the cognitive behavior >therapy (CBT) including exposure and response prevention (E & RP), although >hard to learn and practice at first, is the most powerful treatment for >OCD. Also once they have received this therapy, they have learned >important skills to control OCD and, unlike medication, once therapy is >discontinued they do not tend to relapse so readily. > >If you have any specific questions I am sure there will be many on the list >who can answer or share similar experiences with their family. Take care, >aloha, Kathy (H) >kathyh@... > >P.S. Your son might like to join the OCD-L, which is a listserve for >sufferers with OCD. I have found this an invaluable resource in >understanding OCD. K. > >At 08:37 PM 08/17/2000 +0000, you wrote: >>I am the mother of a 24 yr. old adult son who has just yesterday been >>diagnosed with OCD. I know nothing about this disorder. He claims his >>OCD is with his thought process. My son lives clear across the US >>from me, and I need to know, should I become an active participant >>with his doctors about his care, and the type of support he needs >>with this treatment? He lives with a girlfriend, but they, nor I, can >>afford these office visits. He is asking his dad to help him out >>financially to get this care he will need for now. He has health >>insurance, but he did not earn enough last year to get health >>coverage for this particular medical care. His grandma died in early >>June, and I never would have thought this son of mine would take her >>death as hard as he did. Her death apparently brought out this worst >>episode of this OCD that he has. He just knew he needed to get some >>kind of medical attention because of the things he was thinking. If >>any of the membership here has anything they would like to advise me >>about, with his care, his medication, support or anything, please e- >>mail me. I love this kid with all my heart, and I feel so badly that >>he apparently has been dealing with this disorder all his life. I >>feel so guilty that I never realized how much frustration and anxiety >>he lived with all these years. I knew my son was not like my other >>two sons, because he was always more challenging to discipline, and >>discuss with him anything he did that needed correction. I went as >>far as to ask the pediatrician if he was hyperactive. They said he >>was not. I do believe if the word is not " hyper " , it very well >>was " anxious " behavior, which this young man always seemed to be, if >>not " hyper " . Any help with this, and any info would be greatly >>appreciated. He surprises me in going along with taking the >>medication they have perscribed for him. He needs to be on it for at >>least nine months. His words. He really was against taking any kind >>of medication if he got medical care. Thankyou for listening. I know >>this is long, and I apologize for that. Just don't know what to make >>of this news, and don't know how much I need to support my son with >>his OCD. >> >>Barb M. > > > > > >You may subscribe to the OCD-L by emailing listserv@... . In the body of your message write: subscribe OCD-L your name. The Archives, Files, and Features List for the may be accessed by going to , enter your email address and password, then point and click. Subscription issues, problems, or suggestions may be addressed to Louis Harkins, list owner, at harkins@... . > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2000 Report Share Posted August 20, 2000 HI Barb: Thanks for jumping in. Although some people point to triggers of OCD, the truth is that no one knows what causes OCD. Any ideas are just suggestions or speculation. As you mentioned your son dealt typically with other deaths before this last one. Probably there are many factors behind development of OCD, like most illnesses, and his grandma's death was just the last straw. Obviously people have to have some predisposition to develop OCD as all of us experience these losses yet we do not all get OCD. You are so right it is hard to come to terms with mental illness in our nearest and dearest. We never even considered mental illness when our son started to behave over-emotionally to normal events. Part of the problem is the ignorance most of us have about mental illness and the fear we are conditioned to feel about the mentally ill. In time you will realize this is a situation for compassion and understanding although you will not experience that from everyone. It is a no-fault disorder and very treatable, although recovery from mental illness tends to go a bit more slowly than from physical illness or accidents. It is impossible not to do things that will trigger your son's OCD. When you walk around on eggshells trying not to set him off or watch everything you say, it is exhausting and crazy-making. It is very good that your son is doing such a good job of recognizing his responses as OCD-based. You can compliment him on being so perceptive as this will help him learn to do the necessary CBT in those situations. Although we want to protect our beloved OCDers from harm this does not work well when they are learning to cope with OCD. The rest of the world will not protect them or shelter them so they have to learn to cope themselves. Good therapy goes a long way to making this happen. What we can do is love them, support them, encourage them, and cheer them along. Actually to help my son get better I had to deliberately trigger his OCD so he could learn to cope. It is not easy and I recommend using a trained CBT therapist to help your son learn how to control OCD in his life. Good luck, take care, aloha, Kathy (H) kathyh@... PM 08/20/2000 -0400, you wrote: > Hi Kathy! > > I belong to a couple other support groups on the internet, one being Marine Moms Online. Have been a member of that fine group of wonderful folks for well over a year and a half now, so, am use to jumping right on in with needing help, questions to ask, and seeking out what I don't understand. This OCD I don't understand, at all, and being that I am long-distance from my son, makes it all the more difficult for me to absorb. I am just glad he did seek out help. He knew he was very desperate at this point, since his grandma died. She was a loving, supportive, grandma, and all our boys adored her. Yet, Rob just couldn't deal with her death, and his reaction to seeing her in her casket, triggered an extreme reaction. This puzzles me because he attended his other grandma and grandpa's wakes and funerals. He lost a couple friends over the years, too. No reaction compares to this visibly shaken reaction with this latest loss. Maybe the conditions were just ripe for this to happen at this point in his life. ly, hearing others suggest " metal illness " recommendation links, shakes me into reality alot and saddens me that my son is suffering from severe emotional and mental conflicts. > >I do have one question? What are the " triggers " to OCD? >Are they different for everyone, or is there a set pattern for these " triggers " . I said something to my son here on the internet with AIM, and he said I said something characterized as a " trigger " . I don't want to create more problems then he has! I felt so bad I said something I shouldn't have. > >Thanx Kathy for your response, and support. I know this wonderful, informative group will definitely educate me. I appreciate that. Be Blessed...... > >Barb >-- > >On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:08:14 Kathy Hammes wrote: >>HI Barb: >> >>Welcome to the list. YOu are doing very well to be reaching out for help >>and support so soon after your son's diagnosis. >> >>What you are learning, that there is a lot of hope and good help available >>for OCD but that it is expensive, is something that is true for all of us. >>You will certainly be making a very important and helpful contribution to >>your son if you can help him financially with accessing the right kind of >>care for OCD. >> >>My son, Steve, now 13, had his OCD triggered by the suicide of his >>grandmother which followed shortly after the death of his grandfather. It >>took us almost three years to figure out he had anxiety! Talk about guilt. >> One thing I have learned is that guilt is very normal but it is very >>destructive and not at all helpful in dealing with OCD. >> >>Your son is lucky to have such a loving and supportive family by his side >>as he learns to fight back against his OCD. Although it is generally not >>possible to cure OCD, our children can learn to control it to a large >>degree so it is more in the background of their lives. Learning to do this >>is not easy and takes a lot of bravery, determination and persistence on >>the part of our kids. Sometimes we see one step forward and two steps back >>so we have to be unbelievably patient and calm when we feel anything but. >> >>It is wonderful that your son is so willing to get treatment and to take >>the medication that he needs to help him. IMO the cognitive behavior >>therapy (CBT) including exposure and response prevention (E & RP), although >>hard to learn and practice at first, is the most powerful treatment for >>OCD. Also once they have received this therapy, they have learned >>important skills to control OCD and, unlike medication, once therapy is >>discontinued they do not tend to relapse so readily. >> >>If you have any specific questions I am sure there will be many on the list >>who can answer or share similar experiences with their family. Take care, >>aloha, Kathy (H) >>kathyh@... >> >>P.S. Your son might like to join the OCD-L, which is a listserve for >>sufferers with OCD. I have found this an invaluable resource in >>understanding OCD. K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2001 Report Share Posted January 19, 2001 Isnt he Cute? your going to love him. new to this group >Greetings. First I want to thank R. for introducing this group >to me. I've been in several groups related to hyperbaric oxygenation >and thought I'd like this group. My Tampa neighborhood has >some of the best roller costers in the world, and my writing style >often takes the reader on a wild ride. So if anyone is reading this >be sure to wear a seatbelt. >I love freedom and liberty moderated by responsibility and tempered >by justice. Several years ago I authored a book, Promise of the >Fountain, to document some things we can do to have life, liberty and >freedom from fear of disease. So " let the writing begin " . > Capria >Tampa Hyperbraic > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2001 Report Share Posted January 20, 2001 Hi , Welcome to the list. I see that your book is about water, and how we don't drink enough of it, etc. " Promise of the Fountain:Health Secrets for Life, Longevity & Freedom from Fear of Disease " Author: Capria, Binding: Paper Text Publishing Date: 10/1993 Publisher: Plumosa Press Place of Publication: Tampa Number of Pages: 264 ISBN: 0963849204 List Price: US$ 15.95 Could you please expand a little on that subject? I have read that many unusual and subclinical symptoms will clear up with adequate amounts of H2O. Is that true in your opinion? What amount of water should say a 200 lb man (age 50) drink every day to stay healthy? Is there a MAXIMUM limit? And can you say what KIND of water is recommended (ie: Willard water, or distilled, or ozonated, or filtered or combinatorial etc...) and what *new* or interesting things about drinking water have you come across or discovered since you wrote the book? ....questions, questions... <g> Best Regards, Colin Quinney ----- Original Message ----- From: " Dr. Capria " <drmichael@...> wrote: > Greetings. First I want to thank R. for introducing this group > to me. I've been in several groups related to hyperbaric oxygenation > and thought I'd like this group. My Tampa neighborhood has > some of the best roller costers in the world, and my writing style > often takes the reader on a wild ride. So if anyone is reading this > be sure to wear a seatbelt. > I love freedom and liberty moderated by responsibility and tempered > by justice. Several years ago I authored a book, Promise of the > Fountain, to document some things we can do to have life, liberty and > freedom from fear of disease. So " let the writing begin " . > Capria > Tampa Hyperbraic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2002 Report Share Posted February 15, 2002 , I'm sorry for what caused you to join us, but glad you are here! Mathematics teacher? *gulp* oooh..flashbacks. LOL! Just kidding....I sure hope that you become active too! This group is a safe place to vent and express feelings that you just know everyone is feeling, but don't we all feel alone when we feel them? Ah, not fun. You know, many people on here just love a good puzzle to solve, maybe you can give us a math puzzle to solve? That'd be fun! I'm not to good at math, I'll admit, but I sure can try! Welcome again, and I hope to get to know you better. Hugs, -- New to this group A pleasure meeting another good group of PPS'ers in .My name's and I am 60 years old. Retired Mathematics teacher after 31 years of service at Brooklyn Tech. HS.I have "compressed" some of my health problems as:1946-47 Poliovirus1973 Prob. MS1976 Def. MS1991 Chron. Prog. MS2000 PPSI use a power wheelchair in order to cover anything over 20 steps. Can't drive much so my wife's does most of the driving.I am a Ham Radio operator, my callsign is N2GKI with a General tciket since 1973. Collect POST MARKS "bulls' eyes" stamps of the world, read a lot, advanced Math. I belong to some Math Clubs worldwide where mathematicians with same interests get together and work in different modules "thrown" to the group.Well, very nice, I hope to become active, Peace and much Health (Avi)Hoboken, NJ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~The Being Sick CommunityMemorial Pagehttp://www.dreamwater.net/lovingmemory/Message Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at # on IRC DALnet./files/chat.htmBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into eGroups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~“Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go." - Pueblo Prayer~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 Hello and welcome to the group. I am and I live in Finland. I suffer from chronic depression, panic attacks, Fibromyalgia, diabetes, GERD with Barrett's esophagus and MD (unexplained muscle weakness & cramps, still undergoing tests) I have a walker with wheels that I use when I got out of the house. It has a basket attached for my shopping & other stuff cause my arms are so weak that I am unable to carry much..... I have a cane also that I use if I go by car somewhere and no that I am not going to be doing a lot of walking or carrying. Sorry but I am fairly new here and so I must ask a question. What is PPS? Hugs, in Finland A pleasure meeting another good group of PPS'ers in . My name's and I am 60 years old. Retired Mathematics teacher after 31 years of service at Brooklyn Tech. HS. I have " compressed " some of my health problems as: 1946-47 Poliovirus 1973 Prob. MS 1976 Def. MS 1991 Chron. Prog. MS 2000 PPS I use a power wheelchair in order to cover anything over 20 steps. Can't drive much so my wife's does most of the driving. I am a Ham Radio operator, my callsign is N2GKI with a General tciket since 1973. Collect POST MARKS " bulls' eyes " stamps of the world, read a lot, advanced Math. I belong to some Math Clubs worldwide where mathematicians with same interests get together and work in different modules " thrown " to the group. Well, very nice, I hope to become active, Peace and much Health (Avi) Hoboken, NJ ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick Community Memorial Page http://www.dreamwater.net/lovingmemory/ Message Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:- /messages Chat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at # on IRC DALnet. /files/chat.htm Bookmarks:- Add a website URL you have found useful. /links Personal Complaints or problems:- Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:- 1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive. 2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email. 3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into eGroups at your convenience and receive no email. To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /join To subscribe or unsubscribe please email:- -subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ " Hold on to what is good, even if it's a handful of earth. Hold on to what you believe, even if it's a tree that stands by itself. Hold on to what you must do even, if it's a long way from here. Hold on to your life, even if it's easier to let go. " - Pueblo Prayer ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2002 Report Share Posted February 17, 2002 Hi , Welcome to the group! I'm Ling from Singapore, I have diabetes and chronic headaches, probably due to occipital neuralgia. Working as a trainee teacher now, undergoing training to teach primary English, Mathematics and Science. Please feel free to post whenever you want to! The people here are really great, I'm sure you will find lots of support here, I have myself. Ling New to this group A pleasure meeting another good group of PPS'ers in . My name's and I am 60 years old. Retired Mathematics teacher after 31 years of service at Brooklyn Tech. HS. I have " compressed " some of my health problems as: 1946-47 Poliovirus 1973 Prob. MS 1976 Def. MS 1991 Chron. Prog. MS 2000 PPS I use a power wheelchair in order to cover anything over 20 steps. Can't drive much so my wife's does most of the driving. I am a Ham Radio operator, my callsign is N2GKI with a General tciket since 1973. Collect POST MARKS " bulls' eyes " stamps of the world, read a lot, advanced Math. I belong to some Math Clubs worldwide where mathematicians with same interests get together and work in different modules " thrown " to the group. Well, very nice, I hope to become active, Peace and much Health (Avi) Hoboken, NJ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.320 / Virus Database: 179 - Release Date: 30/01/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2002 Report Share Posted October 3, 2002 Hi CJ, Welcome! I'm a relatively new newbie too. (I'm new to this board as of Sept 9, but am not new to BFL as I completed my first challenge in 2000). It is great that you had success in your first challenge. I have been away from BFL for a year and started again (C2w4) you will be surprised at how easy it is to jump back into the lifestyle. I'm glad you're here. Post again soon and tell us how things are going. Warmly, Petra > Hello everyone! > My name is CJ and I just found this group yesterday. I was doing BFL > for about 9 weeks and I started spiraling out of control and have > been naughty for about 2 months. I Originally lost 29 pounds and > tons of inches and a little body fat. However since I have been off, > I have gained back 7 pounds. > I decided I need to complete my whole challenge, and the only way I > can do that is find a great support system. I started my offical > first challenge (second edition)on Monday, September 30. So far > everything is great. > I am excited to get back in the grove and get back to a healthy > weight. I am 5'9 " and as of Monday I weighed 229 lbs. I don't have > an exact weight goal in mind, but I am in great shape and look super > around 150. So thats what I am aiming for. > Well, there is my story in a nut shell. If anyone has any great > recepies, I am always looking for new ways to eat the same foods. > I love success stories, they completely motivate me, so I look > forward in hearing everones. And of course the successes don't come > without bumps along the way, and I look forward to hearing those too. > CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2002 Report Share Posted October 4, 2002 good for you to get back on the wagon! > Hello everyone! > My name is CJ and I just found this group yesterday. I was doing BFL > for about 9 weeks and I started spiraling out of control and have > been naughty for about 2 months. I Originally lost 29 pounds and > tons of inches and a little body fat. However since I have been off, > I have gained back 7 pounds. > I decided I need to complete my whole challenge, and the only way I > can do that is find a great support system. I started my offical > first challenge (second edition)on Monday, September 30. So far > everything is great. > I am excited to get back in the grove and get back to a healthy > weight. I am 5'9 " and as of Monday I weighed 229 lbs. I don't have > an exact weight goal in mind, but I am in great shape and look super > around 150. So thats what I am aiming for. > Well, there is my story in a nut shell. If anyone has any great > recepies, I am always looking for new ways to eat the same foods. > I love success stories, they completely motivate me, so I look > forward in hearing everones. And of course the successes don't come > without bumps along the way, and I look forward to hearing those too. > CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2002 Report Share Posted October 5, 2002 Anu, Why don't you post a day or twos menues so we can see what you are eating? It is impossible for us to make helpful comments with out knowing what you are doing. Alys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 We have similar problems with Evan but NO ideas of how to stop it. We'd love an ideas also. In His Love, Betty grandma and guardian to - 11 yo-- Bipolar/ADHD on Depakote, Adderall, Omega 3's Evan - 8 yo nonverbal autism on 3 mg Risperdal - 6 - Bipolar/ADHD/RAD/PTSD on Tegretol, Adderall Omega 3's mother to , their mom - Bipolar/ADHD on Topamax wife to Bob too many meds to remember ----- Original Message ----- From: " Simy Illouze " <sillouz@...> > Hi > > I am new to this group and mother of a nearly 13 year old autistic boy. > > His inappropriate behaviors : loud vocalizations. > > Does anyone have similar experience and have used strategies that work ? > > Simy > Ontario > Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 New to this Group Hi I am new to this group and mother of a nearly 13 year old autistic boy. His inappropriate behaviors : loud vocalizations. Does anyone have similar experience and have used strategies that work ? Simy Ontario Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 -I just went to a parents meeting at my sons school and they had a speaker who was a speech therapist/audiologist who did AIT-auditory intergration therapy. She was really good and seems that other parents there had tried it with good results. Anyhow, they talked about why some kids make babbling sounds and/or those types of vocalizations. A lot has to do with auditory sensory processing. She was also very specific about how the child intreprets the sounds around them and this is what comes out. My son, who is 8, is fairly verbal and up until a few weeks ago, would also jargon a lot, which was annoying. I think he is developing a bit, and seems to understand more and jargoning less. He isnt doing any special program per se, but, he is getting a lot of good stuff at school and may be more motivated to participate in the world around him, might have an affect on what he hears. This of course may not be the case with your son, he may do this strictly for attention or because its self-stimulatory. On the other hand, it could be his form of commnunication. Thea -- In autism@y..., " Simy Illouze " <sillouz@a...> wrote: > > New to this Group > > > Hi > > I am new to this group and mother of a nearly 13 year old autistic boy. > > His inappropriate behaviors : loud vocalizations. > > Does anyone have similar experience and have used strategies that work ? > > Simy > Ontario > Canada > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2002 Report Share Posted November 3, 2002 Does your son receive speech therapy? Penny New to this Group Hi I am new to this group and mother of a nearly 13 year old autistic boy. His inappropriate behaviors : loud vocalizations. Does anyone have similar experience and have used strategies that work ? Simy Ontario Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2002 Report Share Posted November 3, 2002 Hi PENNY Thanks for your interest Yes, he receives an average of 2.5 hours per day of articulation, language and speech drills. Simy New to this Group > > > Hi > > I am new to this group and mother of a nearly 13 year old autistic boy. > > His inappropriate behaviors : loud vocalizations. > > Does anyone have similar experience and have used strategies that work ? > > Simy > Ontario > Canada > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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