Guest guest Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Hi Bev and all, There is a doctor on Austria teaching people how to make MAF-314 and supplying the probiotic part of the ingredients. In the USA Dr Cheney has also had a course for some of his patients. Dr Enlander mentioned that he was looking at a version of MAF as well. Warmest regards, Annette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hi I am visiting that doctor in Vienna next Friday to be taught how to make it and purchase 6 months supply. If anyone wants me to ask her questions let me know. > > Hi Bev and all, > > There is a doctor on Austria teaching people how to make MAF-314 and supplying the probiotic part of the ingredients. > > In the USA Dr Cheney has also had a course for some of his patients. > > Dr Enlander mentioned that he was looking at a version of MAF as well. > > Warmest regards, > Annette > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hi , I would very much like to know: " if the probiotic bacteria in the yogurt alone create the MAF from the milk proteins or if the MAF is an ingredient added separately. " ? Usually with yogurt you can make one batch from live yogurt bacteria that you buy or receive as a gift and then keep making more batches of yogurt from the batch you just made etc etc etc for years. A lot of money is being charged to teach people to make MAF Yogurt but just for a few months. Yet the poor women of Tanzania make it every week for hundreds of people. If they can make it why can't we? If what they say about it is true, regarding healing HIV, Cancer, ME/CFS, it is too good to keep a secret. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev > > > > Hi Bev and all, > > > > There is a doctor on Austria teaching people how to make MAF-314 and supplying the probiotic part of the ingredients. > > > > In the USA Dr Cheney has also had a course for some of his patients. > > > > Dr Enlander mentioned that he was looking at a version of MAF as well. > > > > Warmest regards, > > Annette > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Hi Bev the flora make the Gc protein in MAF and I understand it took Prof Ruggiero 314 attempts to make it before he was successful. that is why it is called MAF 314. Yes a lot of money is being charged but someone has to pay for the research, there are no big pharmacutical companies with billions behind them to pay for the research. If anything big pharm would probably like to see this banned, their market is drugs and this is taking money away from them. People like the Prof need to be looked after, main stream medicine hasn't answers for many illnessess and thank heavens there are truely caring people thinking outside the square and trying to solve these without illnesses. they are not earning the big bucks like the corporate guys in the pharmacutical industry. Once more trials have been done and good results are achieved then the price will come down. But it is like anything new to begin with the price is high, they have to recover their costs. With success the demand will increase and the volume sold will allow the price to be reduced. > > > > > > Hi Bev and all, > > > > > > There is a doctor on Austria teaching people how to make MAF-314 and supplying the probiotic part of the ingredients. > > > > > > In the USA Dr Cheney has also had a course for some of his patients. > > > > > > Dr Enlander mentioned that he was looking at a version of MAF as well. > > > > > > Warmest regards, > > > Annette > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 New posting here. Just wanted to let everyone know that I was on chemical GcMAF and did extremely well, but then I switched to MAF314 probotic yogurt and my health declined dramatically almost immediately. Smoe people I know have done very well on it (they seem to be under 40), others remained unchanged while there are a handful of others who have gotten much worse. Be careful. This is brand new to CFS, and I know of no formal studies beyond thirty days. - > > > > Hi Bev and all, > > > > There is a doctor on Austria teaching people how to make MAF-314 and supplying the probiotic part of the ingredients. > > > > In the USA Dr Cheney has also had a course for some of his patients. > > > > Dr Enlander mentioned that he was looking at a version of MAF as well. > > > > Warmest regards, > > Annette > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Hi . May I ask if you went back to GcMAF and did well again?  Thankyou Sue ________________________________ From: scott <scott_45242@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 11:50:01 AM Subject: Re: Prof. Marco Ruggiero on his work with GcMAF & probiotic yogurt  New posting here. Just wanted to let everyone know that I was on chemical GcMAF and did extremely well, but then I switched to MAF314 probotic yogurt and my health declined dramatically almost immediately. Smoe people I know have done very well on it (they seem to be under 40), others remained unchanged while there are a handful of others who have gotten much worse. Be careful. This is brand new to CFS, and I know of no formal studies beyond thirty days. - > > > > Hi Bev and all, > >  > > There is a doctor on Austria teaching people how to make MAF-314 and supplying the probiotic part of the ingredients. > >  > > In the USA Dr Cheney has also had a course for some of his patients. > >  > > Dr Enlander mentioned that he was looking at a version of MAF as well. > >  > > Warmest regards, > > Annette > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Professor Ruggiero did try to get big yogurt companies interested, and they weren't very receptive. They said the cost would be about $18,000.00/year per person if they did, which is cost prohibitive for all but the wealthiest of us. Also, Prof Ruggiero said that there is a supply difficulty in procuring some of the ingredients for his version. They are expecting costs to decrease at some point, but it's just he and his wife (Dr. Pacini), and their research lab, no outside money. Donna in NC -------------------------------------------------- From: " crusaderD " <dennybrand@...> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:01 AM < > Subject: Re: Prof. Marco Ruggiero on his work with GcMAF & probiotic yogurt > Hi Bev > > the flora make the Gc protein in MAF and I understand it took Prof > Ruggiero 314 attempts to make it before he was successful. that is why it > is called MAF 314. > > Yes a lot of money is being charged but someone has to pay for the > research, there are no big pharmacutical companies with billions behind > them to pay for the research. If anything big pharm would probably like to > see this banned, their market is drugs and this is taking money away from > them. People like the Prof need to be looked after, main stream medicine > hasn't answers for many illnessess and thank heavens there are truely > caring people thinking outside the square and trying to solve these > without illnesses. they are not earning the big bucks like the corporate > guys in the pharmacutical industry. > > Once more trials have been done and good results are achieved then the > price will come down. But it is like anything new to begin with the price > is high, they have to recover their costs. With success the demand will > increase and the volume sold will allow the price to be reduced. > > > > > >> > > >> > > Hi Bev and all, >> > > >> > > There is a doctor on Austria teaching people how to make MAF-314 and >> > > supplying the probiotic part of the ingredients. >> > > >> > > In the USA Dr Cheney has also had a course for some of his patients. >> > > >> > > Dr Enlander mentioned that he was looking at a version of MAF as >> > > well. >> > > >> > > Warmest regards, >> > > Annette >> > > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Hi EveryOne, In no way do I begrudge Prof Ruggiero, and any one else developing MAF Yogurt, their due from it. Didn't mean it that way. I am grateful for anything that helps us. What I do feel is that if poor women in Tanzania can make it and it works, why can't we? It seems to be of so much benefit it would be wonderful if everyone with ME/CFS, HIV, Cancer etc could make their own. Peace, Love and Harmony, Bev > >> > > > >> > > Hi Bev and all, > >> > > > >> > > There is a doctor on Austria teaching people how to make MAF-314 and > >> > > supplying the probiotic part of the ingredients. > >> > > > >> > > In the USA Dr Cheney has also had a course for some of his patients. > >> > > > >> > > Dr Enlander mentioned that he was looking at a version of MAF as > >> > > well. > >> > > > >> > > Warmest regards, > >> > > Annette > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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