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In a message dated 05/07/2005 22:53:28 GMT Daylight Time, julia.andnick@... writes:

I'd be keen to try the LDN (quite fancy including myself as 'control' if itsa happy drug!). What I don't understand is ... does it mean you don't haveto do gf/cf cos it sorts the opioid effect or do you still have to do it ...and what about enzymes ...!!!

>>>> From what I understand, its about the immune system re - righting itself when its used in these small doses. Its suppresses something (?Endorphins) for a short period during the night), which means when they come back on again, they are supercharged and shift the immune system back to where its supposed to be????

Cally understands this stuff, I shalll ask her to explain the stuff. It may or may not help with GFCF issues, we dumped the diet with HNI over 4 yeas ago now.

I am going to try some on me first :)

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I'd be keen to try the LDN (quite fancy including myself as 'control' if its

a happy drug!). What I don't understand is ... does it mean you don't have

to do gf/cf cos it sorts the opioid effect or do you still have to do it ...

and what about enzymes ...!!!

julia

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In a message dated 06/07/2005 05:50:15 GMT Daylight Time, acfloe@... writes:

Mandi, where will you get it?

>>>>TD with a script from Ty at Coastal Compounding, or get a compounding chemist to ring Ty for the recipe which he will share for free, you'll still need a script or you can buy oral on the internet but you have reduce a 50mg tab to a 3mg dose. There are details of how to do this on the LDN website.

http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/

I am going to try the oral on me. Cally is helping with measurement tools.

Is the Breakspear a compounding pharmacy? I will ring them today. I have been sending Dr H the info the on it

Mandi (will report back)

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Mandi, where will you get it?

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In a message dated 05/07/2005 22:53:28 GMT Daylight Time, julia.andnick@... writes:

I'd be keen to try the LDN (quite fancy including myself as 'control' if itsa happy drug!). What I don't understand is ... does it mean you don't haveto do gf/cf cos it sorts the opioid effect or do you still have to do it ...and what about enzymes ...!!!

>>>> From what I understand, its about the immune system re - righting itself when its used in these small doses. Its suppresses something (?Endorphins) for a short period during the night), which means when they come back on again, they are supercharged and shift the immune system back to where its supposed to be????

Cally understands this stuff, I shalll ask her to explain the stuff. It may or may not help with GFCF issues, we dumped the diet with HNI over 4 yeas ago now.

I am going to try some on me first :)

Mandi

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We're week 9 into ldn. It is adding a mood stabilizing component;

much calmer person. As an incidental, we used naltrexone in a 10 mg

dose for gluten and casein withdrawal symptoms. Our 'cold turkey'

intro to gfcfsf in 2000 looked very much like dt's - quite scary.

The naltrexone was a big help. I didn't know about the immune

benefits of low dose then.

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> >>We are seeing a child neuro specialized in brain surgery next

week

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> >>

> >to see wether a PET scan shows a spot in the brain not

functioning

> >properly.

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> >>My son is born healthy...he ended up in the hospital at 4 months

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> >>

> >of age after receiving his 3rd DKTP/HIB shot (given at 2, months,

3

> >months and 4 months). He had severe epilepsy for 2 years. He is

now

> >4 does not have clinical seizures but subclinical activity in the

> >left hemisfere and severe behaviour problems and autistic

tendicies

> >(flapping hands, toe walking etc.). He is non-verbal but makes

lots

> >of sounds. My son's MRI's are normal like all other tests ever

> >done...the only thing we know is that he is high in lead, mercury

> >and aluminium. PET scan can show if there is somewhere a spot and

> >yes mercury can give damage to the brain.

> >

> >

> >>Science is very advanced these days with brain surgery and 20%

of

> >>

> >>

> >children are candidates for operation. It is very scarry but I do

> >know from parents who have been there that is surgery succeeds

> >children will get rid of their autistic tendicied, behaviour

> >problems and start to develop and the younger they are the bigger

> >the chance of full recovery.

> >

> >

> >>I have no idea if my son is a candidate for surgery...we will

find

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> >out more next week.

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> >>Are there parents who have been through this?

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> >>Mandy - mom to Kees (4) severly vaccin damaged

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medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a

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Does 10 mg Naltrexone help for gluten / casein withdrawal symptoms,

does it not make it worse ??

Geir Flatabø

mbrookh skrev:

>We're week 9 into ldn. It is adding a mood stabilizing component;

>much calmer person. As an incidental, we used naltrexone in a 10 mg

>dose for gluten and casein withdrawal symptoms. Our 'cold turkey'

>intro to gfcfsf in 2000 looked very much like dt's - quite scary.

>The naltrexone was a big help. I didn't know about the immune

>benefits of low dose then.

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>>>>We are seeing a child neuro specialized in brain surgery next

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>week

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>>>>

>>>to see wether a PET scan shows a spot in the brain not

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>functioning

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>>>properly.

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>>>>My son is born healthy...he ended up in the hospital at 4 months

>>>>

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>>>of age after receiving his 3rd DKTP/HIB shot (given at 2, months,

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>3

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>>>months and 4 months). He had severe epilepsy for 2 years. He is

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>now

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>

>>>4 does not have clinical seizures but subclinical activity in the

>>>left hemisfere and severe behaviour problems and autistic

>>>

>>>

>tendicies

>

>

>>>(flapping hands, toe walking etc.). He is non-verbal but makes

>>>

>>>

>lots

>

>

>>>of sounds. My son's MRI's are normal like all other tests ever

>>>done...the only thing we know is that he is high in lead, mercury

>>>and aluminium. PET scan can show if there is somewhere a spot and

>>>yes mercury can give damage to the brain.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>Science is very advanced these days with brain surgery and 20%

>>>>

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>of

>

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>>>>

>>>>

>>>children are candidates for operation. It is very scarry but I do

>>>know from parents who have been there that is surgery succeeds

>>>children will get rid of their autistic tendicied, behaviour

>>>problems and start to develop and the younger they are the bigger

>>>the chance of full recovery.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>I have no idea if my son is a candidate for surgery...we will

>>>>

>>>>

>find

>

>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>out more next week.

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>>>>Are there parents who have been through this?

>>>>

>>>>Mandy - mom to Kees (4) severly vaccin damaged

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>>>DISCLAIMER

>>>No information contained in this post is to be construed as

>>>

>>>

>medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a

>suitably qualified practitioner.

>

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The standard pill came in 25 mg and that did make things worse! but

in retrospect, I'm not sure that it was not something in the pill

that was causing the upset. Once we had it compounded and lowered

the dose, it did help. It does not bind all the opiod sites but

enough to be of assistance.

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> >>>>We are seeing a child neuro specialized in brain surgery next

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >week

> >

> >

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>to see wether a PET scan shows a spot in the brain not

> >>>

> >>>

> >functioning

> >

> >

> >>>properly.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>My son is born healthy...he ended up in the hospital at 4

months

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>of age after receiving his 3rd DKTP/HIB shot (given at 2,

months,

> >>>

> >>>

> >3

> >

> >

> >>>months and 4 months). He had severe epilepsy for 2 years. He is

> >>>

> >>>

> >now

> >

> >

> >>>4 does not have clinical seizures but subclinical activity in

the

> >>>left hemisfere and severe behaviour problems and autistic

> >>>

> >>>

> >tendicies

> >

> >

> >>>(flapping hands, toe walking etc.). He is non-verbal but makes

> >>>

> >>>

> >lots

> >

> >

> >>>of sounds. My son's MRI's are normal like all other tests ever

> >>>done...the only thing we know is that he is high in lead,

mercury

> >>>and aluminium. PET scan can show if there is somewhere a spot

and

> >>>yes mercury can give damage to the brain.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>Science is very advanced these days with brain surgery and 20%

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >of

> >

> >

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>children are candidates for operation. It is very scarry but I

do

> >>>know from parents who have been there that is surgery succeeds

> >>>children will get rid of their autistic tendicied, behaviour

> >>>problems and start to develop and the younger they are the

bigger

> >>>the chance of full recovery.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>I have no idea if my son is a candidate for surgery...we will

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >find

> >

> >

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>out more next week.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>Are there parents who have been through this?

> >>>>

> >>>>Mandy - mom to Kees (4) severly vaccin damaged

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>DISCLAIMER

> >>>No information contained in this post is to be construed as

> >>>

> >>>

> >medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a

> >suitably qualified practitioner.

> >

> >

> >>>

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Well perhaps that is the reason why,

a Heroin addict now using Naltrexone ( Revia) half the dose of what is

recommended also feels it takes away the Heroin Craving !

Geir Flatabø

mbrookh skrev:

>The standard pill came in 25 mg and that did make things worse! but

>in retrospect, I'm not sure that it was not something in the pill

>that was causing the upset. Once we had it compounded and lowered

>the dose, it did help. It does not bind all the opiod sites but

>enough to be of assistance.

>

>

>

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>>>>>>We are seeing a child neuro specialized in brain surgery next

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>>>week

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>>>>>to see wether a PET scan shows a spot in the brain not

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>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>functioning

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>>properly.

>>>>>

>>>>>

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>>>>>>My son is born healthy...he ended up in the hospital at 4

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>months

>

>

>>>>>>

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>>>>>of age after receiving his 3rd DKTP/HIB shot (given at 2,

>>>>>

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>months,

>

>

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>>>3

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>>>>>months and 4 months). He had severe epilepsy for 2 years. He is

>>>>>

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>>>>>

>>>now

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>>4 does not have clinical seizures but subclinical activity in

>>>>>

>>>>>

>the

>

>

>>>>>left hemisfere and severe behaviour problems and autistic

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>tendicies

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>>(flapping hands, toe walking etc.). He is non-verbal but makes

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>lots

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>>of sounds. My son's MRI's are normal like all other tests ever

>>>>>done...the only thing we know is that he is high in lead,

>>>>>

>>>>>

>mercury

>

>

>>>>>and aluminium. PET scan can show if there is somewhere a spot

>>>>>

>>>>>

>and

>

>

>>>>>yes mercury can give damage to the brain.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Science is very advanced these days with brain surgery and 20%

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>of

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>children are candidates for operation. It is very scarry but I

>>>>>

>>>>>

>do

>

>

>>>>>know from parents who have been there that is surgery succeeds

>>>>>children will get rid of their autistic tendicied, behaviour

>>>>>problems and start to develop and the younger they are the

>>>>>

>>>>>

>bigger

>

>

>>>>>the chance of full recovery.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>I have no idea if my son is a candidate for surgery...we will

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>find

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>out more next week.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>Are there parents who have been through this?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Mandy - mom to Kees (4) severly vaccin damaged

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>DISCLAIMER

>>>>>No information contained in this post is to be construed as

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a

>>>suitably qualified practitioner.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>>

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That's OK. I'll look it up. I guess LDN is not available over here. hmm

maybe I'll ask my doctor on Germany if it's over there and if not get a

script from him for the American pharmacy.

Thanks!

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So that might mean it's available in Europe. I think I'll approach my doctor about it...Thx.From: nm44714 <nikki-mills@...>Autism Treatment Sent: Sunday, 3 January, 2010 17:28:47Subject: Re: LDN

We had td LDN from the Breakspear Hospital, you may need to be a patient to get it prescribed?

>

> Does anybody know where I can get LDN??

>

> Thanks,

>

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hi it definitely WAS available in Europe, don’t know if still the case but worth joining ldn groups (or MS ones) for current info on how they get it...

I will forward the info to you pm, of few years back, maybe still valid

natasa

So that might mean it's available in Europe. I think I'll approach my doctor about it...Thx.

From: nm44714 <nikki-mills@...>

Autism Treatment

Sent: Sunday, 3 January, 2010 17:28:47

Subject: Re: LDN

We had td LDN from the Breakspear Hospital, you may need to be a patient to get it prescribed?

>

> Does anybody know where I can get LDN??

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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Hi, we got some LDN just a few months ago from Italy. We're in France, and just

needed a prescription from our DAN here in order to get it.

The pharmacy is called Farmacia Fiorentini in Brescia.

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> > Does anybody know where I can get LDN??

> >

> > Thanks,

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OK I am noting everything Thx!!julieFrom: peche95 <angela.chelet@...>Autism Treatment Sent: Sunday, 3 January, 2010 20:02:47Subject: Re: LDN

Hi, we got some LDN just a few months ago from Italy. We're in France, and just needed a prescription from our DAN here in order to get it.

The pharmacy is called Farmacia Fiorentini in Brescia.

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> > Does anybody know where I can get LDN??

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

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Hello,

You can also order it from Farmacia Legnani in Milano <lab@...>.

Greet

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> > > Does anybody know where I can get LDN??

> > >

> > > Thanks,

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Hi

What good news. Thanks for responding with your experience of LDN.

I'm just being cautious because things are on a nice even keel, peace has

broken out. I'm one of the old timers I suppose, but things are ever changing

and there is always more to learn, things to re-visit and things never tried,

doesn't help having one of the hard nuts to crack I suppose. LDN is a new thing

for so even though all the children are different it's good to get

feedback.

I hope things continue to go well for Joe.

Vicky

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> > In a message dated 06/01/2010 16:43:31 GMT Standard Time, MaddiganV@

> > writes:

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> > Guess what though, used the alphabet sign that has just been posted for M

> > and he said it!!!!!!

> > Actually he said it twice, not NET just his cards and words, so the word

> > was moon, been working on it forever, showed him the sign for M, then the

> > letter M, then the picture of the moon, he straight away said Moo, [ no N]

and

> > looked up at the sky.

> > I'm rambling but if he hadn't repeated it I would doubt I had really heard

> > it.

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> > >>OMG Vicky ths is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go !!!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Mandi x

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Hi Gail,

Thanks for responding to this post. I have not had good internet due to storms.

Yes, that is exactly how I do it. I order every 3 months and I order many

things from there. I forgot to mention the shipping. I usually split the order

with someone locally and that helps. But I order so much that I don't stress

about it.

I use a pay as you go Credit card which isn't attached to my bank accounts. I

pay $1 plus a small percentage (1% or so) for an international transaction.

HTH,

Marti

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> > > > Has anyone with Fibromyalgia ever experienced stomach cramps? I don't

mean related to GI issues. This is definitely cramping. I've had it off and on

for the last year. It's not when I'm having any GI related issues. Is there any

way to prevent or treat them or any sort of stretching I could do?

> > > >

> > > > I've had Fibromyalgia for over 25 years. The last few years I've been

having more muscle pain than ever.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you!

> > > >

> > > > Sue

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Alldaychemist now only takes VISA and a number of the pay-as-you-go VISA cards

only work for USA merchants and with AllDayChemist, you need an international

VISA card. So, please check this out before you invest in the card if it's

primarily to order Naltrexone.

Other sources are http://riverpharmacy.com also ships out of India.

United Pharmacies has good prices, too.

http://www.unitedpharmacies.com/customer/search.php?substring=naltrexone.

I have a script for Naltrexone and do my own dilutions. I pay about $50.00 per

year using http://costco.com

The problem with chronic illnesses is that we can get broke really quickly in

seeking to improve the quality of our lives.

Hope this helps,

mjh

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> > > > > Has anyone with Fibromyalgia ever experienced stomach cramps? I don't

mean related to GI issues. This is definitely cramping. I've had it off and on

for the last year. It's not when I'm having any GI related issues. Is there any

way to prevent or treat them or any sort of stretching I could do?

> > > > >

> > > > > I've had Fibromyalgia for over 25 years. The last few years I've been

having more muscle pain than ever.

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> > > > > Thank you!

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> > > > > Sue

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Hi EveryOne,

I have never used LDN but I noticed that anti-aging systems has an article about

LDN and already diluted LDN for sale without Rx.

http://bit.ly/xPZ8ey

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

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> > > > > > Has anyone with Fibromyalgia ever experienced stomach cramps? I

don't mean related to GI issues. This is definitely cramping. I've had it off

and on for the last year. It's not when I'm having any GI related issues. Is

there any way to prevent or treat them or any sort of stretching I could do?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I've had Fibromyalgia for over 25 years. The last few years I've

been having more muscle pain than ever.

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> > > > > > Thank you!

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I would be concerned about a medication being sold over the counter??

If it is still to be prescribed, how or why are they selling this form?

God Bless,

Sara

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> > > > > > > Has anyone with Fibromyalgia ever experienced stomach cramps? I

don't mean related to GI issues. This is definitely cramping. I've had it off

and on for the last year. It's not when I'm having any GI related issues. Is

there any way to prevent or treat them or any sort of stretching I could do?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I've had Fibromyalgia for over 25 years. The last few years I've

been having more muscle pain than ever.

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