Re: Re: MTFHR problems and CFS

[Guest guest]

Thanks all for your answers. Anyone studied Pfeiffer's undermethylation

theory?Can we say that MTHFR problems correspond to his UM theory?

Thanks

Nil

Re: MTFHR problems and CFS

I really liked this diagram and the suggestions associated with each mutation.

There are three SNP's associated with MTHFR (that I know of - they may have

discovered others). I had my testing done about 3 years ago by Labcorp and they

only tested for 2 of the SNP's. Quest at that time tested for all three but I

couldn't use them.

[Guest guest]

Hi Marti

Thanks

I bodies are so damaged from long term illness that I think we need to check

times when we were young in order to be able to decide if we are OM or UM.When I

think my early times I think I fit into UM. Lately I have symptoms from UM's and

OM's.

I was also wondering if there is any connection between Pfeiffer's over

Methylation concept and specific MTHFR or other genetic problems?

Best wishes

nil

Re: MTFHR problems and CFS

It depends on your genetics.

Some people are over-methylators, some are under-methylators. Mostly, it is

best to think of this as supply and demand as the symptoms can flip flop based

on your current state of health and the supplements that you are taking.

http://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/CFS_-_The_Methylation_Cycle

http://www.autismsymptoms.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4 & t=22329 & start=0

http://www.latitudes.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=837

I have seen a list of the symptoms but can't find it now. I will look

tomorrow. Sometimes, the symptoms can point to being both an under and over

methylator so I have not found these lists very helpful. But generally speaking

[Guest guest]

Sorry to but in. Amy yasko says over methylator are those comt ++ vdr taq -- and

under methylator are comt -- vdr taq ++.

I'm comt +- vdr taq ++ so lean towards an undermethylator. I macth many symptoms

of um and histamine always ranked high.

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Re: Re: MTFHR problems and CFS

Hi Marti

Thanks

I bodies are so damaged from long term illness that I think we need to check

times when we were young in order to be able to decide if we are OM or UM.When I

think my early times I think I fit into UM. Lately I have symptoms from UM's and

OM's.

I was also wondering if there is any connection between Pfeiffer's over

Methylation concept and specific MTHFR or other genetic problems?

Best wishes

nil

Re: MTFHR problems and CFS

It depends on your genetics.

Some people are over-methylators, some are under-methylators. Mostly, it is

best to think of this as supply and demand as the symptoms can flip flop based

on your current state of health and the supplements that you are taking.

http://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/CFS_-_The_Methylation_Cycle

http://www.autismsymptoms.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4 & t=22329 & start=0

http://www.latitudes.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=837

I have seen a list of the symptoms but can't find it now. I will look

tomorrow. Sometimes, the symptoms can point to being both an under and over

methylator so I have not found these lists very helpful. But generally speaking

[Guest guest]

If you go onto diagnose-me.com and search 'histapenia'(low histamine) and

'histadelia'(high histamine) the recommended supplements match those in a book I

had co-written by carl pfeiffer. They reckon over methylated leads to low

histamine and under methylation high histamine.

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Re: Re: MTFHR problems and CFS

>

> Hi Marti

>

> Thanks

> I bodies are so damaged from long term illness that I think we need to check

times when we were young in order to be able to decide if we are OM or UM.When I

think my early times I think I fit into UM. Lately I have symptoms from UM's and

OM's.

>

> I was also wondering if there is any connection between Pfeiffer's over

Methylation concept and specific MTHFR or other genetic problems?

> Best wishes

> nil