Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 ~ Please tell me if this goes for young men (17yrs) as well as young women? Obviously the hormone thing is in effect simply a different kind. I would love to put my 17 yr old on this as he has severe acne. Thanks, Watkins On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 09:54:44 -0800 mary robinson <maryr@...> writes: > From: mary robinson <maryr@...> > > Hi All, > > Evening primrose works because it is high in GLA, and the body needs > this > gamma lineolaic acid, it does not manufacture it easily, but it > should be > supplied through the diet. > > Other alternatives are Black Currant oil, Flax Seed oil, Borage Oil, > or > Hemp Seed Oil. > > GLA helps balance the hormone levels in the body, often a cause of > acne. > For acne itself, spike lavender oil (lavandula latifolia) > is incredible, especially on those blind pimples. > > > Well, Naturally > > > > At 11:37 AM 12/28/1999 EST, you wrote: > >From: Fees@... > > > > > >i called the hfs girl. she said she ingested the evening primrose, > after > >taking it for about a week, she noticed a improvement. said it > took about > >three weeks to really clear up her skin (her acne was BAD) > > > >felicia > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 Hi All, Evening primrose works because it is high in GLA, and the body needs this gamma lineolaic acid, it does not manufacture it easily, but it should be supplied through the diet. Other alternatives are Black Currant oil, Flax Seed oil, Borage Oil, or Hemp Seed Oil. GLA helps balance the hormone levels in the body, often a cause of acne. For acne itself, spike lavender oil (lavandula latifolia) is incredible, especially on those blind pimples. Well, Naturally At 11:37 AM 12/28/1999 EST, you wrote: >From: Fees@... > > >i called the hfs girl. she said she ingested the evening primrose, after >taking it for about a week, she noticed a improvement. said it took about >three weeks to really clear up her skin (her acne was BAD) > >felicia > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 Thank you . I will check this out. I will have to get some spike lavender asap as I am afraid that his acne is severe enough that there will definately be scarring if we don't find something. Of course the dermatologist wants to use the accutane but we would like to try everything possible before having to go " that route " . Thanks to all on this wonderful list that continue to teach me so many things of worth! Watkins On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 18:17:55 -0800 mary robinson <maryr@...> writes: > Hi , > > Yes, it does. GLA helps to smooth out hormonal imbalances, > especially in > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 Having had the adult acne curse since I turned 20, I have been looking for herbal help for quite some time now. I read that the ingestion of Evening Primrose Oil helps to regulate hormonal fluctuations that contribute to adult acne. The information came from a hoolistic healing site and I can't remember for the life of me the doctors name! HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 What foods is this compound present in? SunFeather Potsdam, New York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 Hi , Yes, it does. GLA helps to smooth out hormonal imbalances, especially in adolescent teenage males (grin). The skin is an eliminative organ of the body, and reflects what is going on inside as well. I'd really suggest he uses spike lavender (neat) on the pimples on his face as well, its very healing and soothing, and will help prevent scarring. Face packs also help Well, Naturally http://www.wellnaturally.com At 05:38 AM 12/28/1999 -0800, T Watkins wrote: >From: T Watkins <sudsymom@...> > >~ > >Please tell me if this goes for young men (17yrs) as well as young women? > Obviously the hormone thing is in effect simply a different kind. I >would love to put my 17 yr old on this as he has severe acne. > >Thanks, > > Watkins > >On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 09:54:44 -0800 mary robinson <maryr@...> >writes: >> From: mary robinson <maryr@...> >> >> Hi All, >> >> Evening primrose works because it is high in GLA, and the body needs >> this >> gamma lineolaic acid, it does not manufacture it easily, but it >> should be >> supplied through the diet. >> >> Other alternatives are Black Currant oil, Flax Seed oil, Borage Oil, >> or >> Hemp Seed Oil. >> >> GLA helps balance the hormone levels in the body, often a cause of >> acne. >> For acne itself, spike lavender oil (lavandula latifolia) >> is incredible, especially on those blind pimples. >> >> >> Well, Naturally >> >> >> >> At 11:37 AM 12/28/1999 EST, you wrote: >> >From: Fees@... >> > >> > >> >i called the hfs girl. she said she ingested the evening primrose, >> after >> >taking it for about a week, she noticed a improvement. said it >> took about >> >three weeks to really clear up her skin (her acne was BAD) >> > >> >felicia >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 Suzy~ Thanks so much for this info. I'll look for the book today while I'm at the mall with the teens today (aaaagh!) <g> Watkins On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:27:29 +1100 " Suzy M " <suzym@...> writes: > > Hi , > there is a book called " Fats that Heal and Fats that Kill " by Udo > Erasmus. > Some of the information in this book is fairly technical but once > you > grasp the techinical ideas and continue reading it it will explain > exactly > what is causing the acne, what causes autoimune diseases such as > arthritis > and eczema and how to treat them with simple dietary changes. Also > talks > about menopause and other problems that are directly related to > western > diets and the malnourishment that our diets cause us. It really is > a great > book. > > Suzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Sorry for misspelling, it is Evening Primrose. Sherry Sherry's Creations http://www.herbalsoap-healingcreams.com/ Natural Care E-books for Beginners to Intermediates. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Dose anyone know the dose for evening primrose oil? Is is good for omegas? It it taken as a capsule or as a oil poured on food can you cook wiht it? thanks, Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Hi Amy, I take a 500mg. capsule from NOW daily. I don't know what is the correct dose should; that's just what I take. It contains the highest amount of gamma-linoleic acid of any food subtance. The body does not manufacture GLA so it must be supplied through the diet. Flax seed is good for omegas. I take both in capsule form. Gail > > Dose anyone know the dose for evening primrose oil? > > Is is good for omegas? > > It it taken as a capsule or as a oil poured on food > can you cook wiht it? > > thanks, > > Amy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 One more thing: A word of caution for those suffering from breast cancer that is estrogen related should avoid or limit their intake of primerose oil. Black current is a good substitute. Gail > > Dose anyone know the dose for evening primrose oil? > > Is is good for omegas? > > It it taken as a capsule or as a oil poured on food > can you cook wiht it? > > thanks, > > Amy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Evening primrose oil is estrogenic and inflammatory. Flaxseed oil is high in omega 6, has a minimal amount of omega 3, and tends to be inflammatory after about 3 weeks of use, esp in autoimmune diseases. It also goes rancid extremely quickly, needs to be kept in the frig, and is probably rancid as soon as you get it. I don't recommend either of these specialty oils. On GLA (gamma linolenic acid), an omega 6 oil, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Linolenic_acid Borage oil is high in GLA. From my experience and observations over the years, whatever problem you're trying to solve with these oils is much better addressed in other ways. Carol W. willis_protocols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 According to Dr. Balch, M.D. in his book, " Nutrition Healing " he states " research also demonstrates that primrose oil helps to relieve pain and inflammation. " However, he does not give the source of that research. Also, listed on my bottle of flax seed oil: 1 gram has 40-60% Omega3, 12-18% Omega6. & 12-18% Omega9. It is known to be high in Omega3. Lately, I've been hearing a lot of good things about krill oil. It's a good idea to keep all oils in the fridge. Gail > > Evening primrose oil is estrogenic and inflammatory. > > Flaxseed oil is high in omega 6, has a minimal amount > of omega 3, and tends to be inflammatory after about 3 weeks > of use, esp in autoimmune diseases. It also goes rancid > extremely quickly, needs to be kept in the frig, and is > probably rancid as soon as you get it. > > I don't recommend either of these specialty oils. > > > On GLA (gamma linolenic acid), an omega 6 oil, > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Linolenic_acid > Borage oil is high in GLA. > > > From my experience and observations over the years, > whatever problem you're trying to solve with these oils > is much better addressed in other ways. > > > Carol W. > willis_protocols > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2012 Report Share Posted March 31, 2012 I don' know, both the Gerson and Buwig diets (huge cancer fighting diets) call for flax seed oil & ground flax seeds well mixed (never heated) into foods and somehow, this mixing makes all the difference in health. dr. Buwig was an expert in oils and had a degree in pharmacology and molecular biology so I'd hope she recommended the better oil. Here's a link for those who are interested http://www.healingcancernaturally.com/budwig_protocol.html > > Evening primrose oil is estrogenic and inflammatory. > > Flaxseed oil is high in omega 6, has a minimal amount > of omega 3, and tends to be inflammatory after about 3 weeks > of use, esp in autoimmune diseases. It also goes rancid > extremely quickly, needs to be kept in the frig, and is > probably rancid as soon as you get it. > > I don't recommend either of these specialty oils. > > > On GLA (gamma linolenic acid), an omega 6 oil, > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Linolenic_acid > Borage oil is high in GLA. > > > From my experience and observations over the years, > whatever problem you're trying to solve with these oils > is much better addressed in other ways. > > > Carol W. > willis_protocols > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 I forgot to mention that there is a world of difference between the bad omega 6 oils that we get WAY too much of and the highly critical, good omega 6's that we don't get. They are not all the same and this is explained well by Dr. Russel Blaylock MD, a neurosurgeon who now works with Life Extensions. Be careful about lumping them all together since nothng could be further from the truth. > > > > Evening primrose oil is estrogenic and inflammatory. > > > > Flaxseed oil is high in omega 6, has a minimal amount > > of omega 3, and tends to be inflammatory after about 3 weeks > > of use, esp in autoimmune diseases. It also goes rancid > > extremely quickly, needs to be kept in the frig, and is > > probably rancid as soon as you get it. > > > > I don't recommend either of these specialty oils. > > > > > > On GLA (gamma linolenic acid), an omega 6 oil, > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Linolenic_acid > > Borage oil is high in GLA. > > > > > > From my experience and observations over the years, > > whatever problem you're trying to solve with these oils > > is much better addressed in other ways. > > > > > > Carol W. > > willis_protocols > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 I forgot to mention that there is a world of difference between the bad omega 6 oils that we get WAY too much of and the highly critical, good omega 6's that we don't get. They are not all the same and this is explained well by Dr. Russel Blaylock MD, a neurosurgeon who now works with Life Extensions. Be careful about lumping them all together since nothng could be further from the truth. > > > > Evening primrose oil is estrogenic and inflammatory. > > > > Flaxseed oil is high in omega 6, has a minimal amount > > of omega 3, and tends to be inflammatory after about 3 weeks > > of use, esp in autoimmune diseases. It also goes rancid > > extremely quickly, needs to be kept in the frig, and is > > probably rancid as soon as you get it. > > > > I don't recommend either of these specialty oils. > > > > > > On GLA (gamma linolenic acid), an omega 6 oil, > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Linolenic_acid > > Borage oil is high in GLA. > > > > > > From my experience and observations over the years, > > whatever problem you're trying to solve with these oils > > is much better addressed in other ways. > > > > > > Carol W. > > willis_protocols > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 I forgot to mention that there is a world of difference between the bad omega 6 oils that we get WAY too much of and the highly critical, good omega 6's that we don't get. They are not all the same and this is explained well by Dr. Russel Blaylock MD, a neurosurgeon who now works with Life Extensions. Be careful about lumping them all together since nothng could be further from the truth. > > > > Evening primrose oil is estrogenic and inflammatory. > > > > Flaxseed oil is high in omega 6, has a minimal amount > > of omega 3, and tends to be inflammatory after about 3 weeks > > of use, esp in autoimmune diseases. It also goes rancid > > extremely quickly, needs to be kept in the frig, and is > > probably rancid as soon as you get it. > > > > I don't recommend either of these specialty oils. > > > > > > On GLA (gamma linolenic acid), an omega 6 oil, > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Linolenic_acid > > Borage oil is high in GLA. > > > > > > From my experience and observations over the years, > > whatever problem you're trying to solve with these oils > > is much better addressed in other ways. > > > > > > Carol W. > > willis_protocols > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 [cbwillis:] > > > Evening primrose oil is estrogenic and inflammatory. > > > > > > Flaxseed oil is high in omega 6, has a minimal amount > > > of omega 3, and tends to be inflammatory after about 3 weeks > > > of use, esp in autoimmune diseases. It also goes rancid > > > extremely quickly, needs to be kept in the frig, and is > > > probably rancid as soon as you get it. > > > > > > I don't recommend either of these specialty oils. > > > From my experience and observations over the years, > > > whatever problem you're trying to solve with these oils > > > is much better addressed in other ways. Adding onto my comments above, it's easy enough for someone with autoimmune disease(s) to prove or disprove any of this to themselves. Just give flaxseed oil a 1-2 month trial, but end off the experiment if it aggravates your autoimmune/inflammatory situation, which it did for me horribly at about 3 weeks in the case of flaxseed oil some 20 yrs ago, after a brief " honeymoon " period of 1-2 weeks. Kept it in the frig, as did the chiro I got it from. Likewise evening primrose oil, as most women are going to know whether their estrogen level has gotten to be too much based on cell proliferation in the female organs and/or emotional volatility etc. You can also be aware of any sense of rancidity you may notice, even if oils have been refrigerated; I suspect many of these oils are rancid even before they're sold and before the official expiration or best-by date (likewise plain fish oils and cod liver oils). Carol W. willis_protocols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Any thoughts about obtaining Omega 3 from purslane? > > [cbwillis:] > > > > Evening primrose oil is estrogenic and inflammatory. > > > > > > > > Flaxseed oil is high in omega 6, has a minimal amount > > > > of omega 3, and tends to be inflammatory after about 3 weeks > > > > of use, esp in autoimmune diseases. It also goes rancid > > > > extremely quickly, needs to be kept in the frig, and is > > > > probably rancid as soon as you get it. > > > > > > > > I don't recommend either of these specialty oils. > > > > > From my experience and observations over the years, > > > > whatever problem you're trying to solve with these oils > > > > is much better addressed in other ways. > > > Adding onto my comments above, it's easy enough for someone > with autoimmune disease(s) to prove or disprove > any of this to themselves. > > Just give flaxseed oil a 1-2 month trial, but end off > the experiment if it aggravates your autoimmune/inflammatory > situation, which it did for me horribly at about 3 weeks in > the case of flaxseed oil some 20 yrs ago, after a brief > " honeymoon " period of 1-2 weeks. Kept it in the frig, as > did the chiro I got it from. > > Likewise evening primrose oil, as most > women are going to know whether their estrogen level has > gotten to be too much based on cell proliferation in the female > organs and/or emotional volatility etc. You can also > be aware of any sense of rancidity you may notice, > even if oils have been refrigerated; I suspect many of these > oils are rancid even before they're sold and before the official > expiration or best-by date (likewise plain fish oils and cod liver > oils). > > Carol W. > willis_protocols > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Hi Carol, I'm surprised by your statements about flax seed oil. posted a good reply. The truth about flax seed oil is that it is high in omega 3s and very healing. It's the only product that helped to stop the severe vascular headaches that plagued me daily during the first years of having CFIDS. Among other benefits, it helps blood vessels become more flexible and thins the blood a little. I consume a couple tablespoons of flax seed oil every day. It's much higher in omega 3 than omega 6. Here are the nutrition facts on my container of Barleans flax seed oil. One tablespoon contains: Omega 3 - 7700 mg Omega 6 - 2400 mg Omega 9 - 2520 mg Also, flax seed oil does not easily become rancid as you suggest. You would have to open the bottle and leave it sitting out of the refrigerator for quite a while before it would even begin to become rancid. I treat mine the same way I treat milk. Plus, it does not become rancid when it hasn't been opened. So, there is no way that it's rancid by the time you get it home as you stated. I've bought hundreds of containers of flax oil over the years and never had a rancid one. It does not become inflammatory after about 3 weeks of use. I've been using it daily for years. I also moderate a Budwig diet group called FlaxSeedOil2 in which hundreds of members have overcome cancer and other health problems by following Dr. Budwig's healing plan which includes blending 3 Tbs of flax oil and 6 Tbs. of cottage cheese along with freshly ground flax seeds, fruits, etc. and consuming this mixture twice a day along with other anticancer foods. Unfortunately, the Budwig plan can't heal CFIDS but it has helped me with one of my worst symptoms, severe headaches, and it has saved the lives of many terminal cancer patients when nothing else would work. Kind regards, > > > > Evening primrose oil is estrogenic and inflammatory. > > > > Flaxseed oil is high in omega 6, has a minimal amount > > of omega 3, and tends to be inflammatory after about 3 weeks > > of use, esp in autoimmune diseases. It also goes rancid > > extremely quickly, needs to be kept in the frig, and is > > probably rancid as soon as you get it. > > > > I don't recommend either of these specialty oils. > > > > On GLA (gamma linolenic acid), an omega 6 oil, > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Linolenic_acid > > Borage oil is high in GLA. > > > > From my experience and observations over the years, > > whatever problem you're trying to solve with these oils > > is much better addressed in other ways.> > > > > > Carol W. > > willis_protocols > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Flaxseed oil and rancidity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linseed_oil see section Nutritional Supplement and Food --- http://www.henriettesherbal.com/blog/flax-seed-oil-scam.html scroll down about 20% to paragraph beginning " Ditch... " Comments: The above references support the likelihood of flaxseed oil rancidity, however the subject is controversial as seen on our thread here. Pay attention to your own experience over time, especially if you have autoimmune diseases. Don't push past your own negative experiences trying to make some idea work; it may not be workable for you. Regarding Budwig flaxseed oil and cottage cheese, cancer pts may be said to have some lack of immunity, so if Budwig does work, that may be why it works - due to flaxseed upregulating the immune response. Carol W. willis_protocols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 What does it mean when flax oil is very fishy? -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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