Re: nutra eval test for detox and vitamins minerals etc

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Hi there

I have found this test very informative. Have had it run for both my son and

myself. It is a standard test run by most autism doctors.

Please note: this is not a vitamin/mineral test - there are no test results for

vitamins and minerals. This is a test of how various systems are working and to

test for oxidative stress, how your body is handling inflammation, if there is

gut dysbiosis (parasites & yeast), how your body is handling the Kreb's cycle

(energy). There are some recommendations to take some vitamins but this test

does not measure your current vitamin or mineral status. That is a test I

haven't had run myself but that would be a somewhat useful test. This test is

better, IMO.

This sample test has a lot of abnormal results and addressing them would be

difficult to learn and do but gives you actual places to start. Pick one

abnormal result and then google it, learn about it and find out how to fix that

one thing. Usually, these are related so learning about one abnormal value

helps you understand other abnormal values.

My test as well as my son's were not nearly so abnormal so we were able to learn

about the pieces that needed fixing.

This version is newer and better than the one I had. Wouldn't hurt to have this

run again. While I prefer a heavy metal challenge test, this information on

this test *about heavy metals) is a good start.

The notes at the end plus any doctors suggestions are great places to start.

This test coupled with a few more would be a great baseline and a great place to

start.

I would add MTHFR genetic testing (done through mainstream medicine, Labcorp,

Quest) and a full endocrine workup. You would have a better idea of how to

address the issues your body is having.

HTH

Marti

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http://www.doctorschoice.net/Files%20100608/WEBSITE%20GENOVA/5-NUTURITIONAL%20PR\

OFILES/5-NUTREVAL/2-NutrEval_Sample%20Report.pdf

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[Guest guest]

I know evaluation is difficult when more than one thing is changed. My first

thought was 'emotional " Did something happen when your son came home? Some

disagreeable thing, something that shook your " hope' or " delight " with seeing

him. In our fragile state, any negativity can block our previous healthy state.

It is just a thought. If so work on turning that back to a positive and try your

supplements again. Deb

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This test does include B vitamins, C and E.,minerals, in addition to many of the

other things you mention. See link in original post.

I believe medicare pays for it. thanks for the info.

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This test does include B vitamins, C and E.,minerals, in addition to many of the

other things you mention. See link in original post.

I believe medicare pays for it. thanks for the info.

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http://www.doctorschoice.net/Files%20100608/WEBSITE%20GENOVA/5-NUTURITIONAL%20PR\

OFILES/5-NUTREVAL/2-NutrEval_Sample%20Report.pdf

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[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

The only actual numbers for real levels is on Page 15 - magnesium, potassium,

manganese, copper, selenium and zinc.

All other vitamins/minerals are not actual results. These are relative need for

nutrients. I don't want anyone thinking that this test will provide actual

vitamin and mineral status as it does not.

I hope you don't feel that I am splitting hairs but I just want to make sure

that you and others realize what the test is actually measuring. If you are

wanting to know where your body stands now for vitamins and minerals - perhaps

the SpectraCell Laboratories Micro Nutrient test would be a better fit.

Even Genova Diagnostics does not label this test as a vitamin and mineral

assessment.

At the top of page 2, you will see the B vitamins and at the top of page 3, you

will see various minerals - the ones relating to oxidative stress/methylation

(not a complete list of minerals). The key to these results is at the bottom of

page 2:

" 0-10 Graduated Scale recognizes relative need for nutrients/relative disease

risk "

so the result listed is a RELATIVE value for NEED for nutrients - not your

current status. Still very helpful information but not an actual value that you

can document and use in other ways (checking progress for example). Notice how

Vit A, E, Beta carotene are lumped together.

Another example is iron - the number on this test is 0. This boy of 8 does not

need to supplement with additional iron (most autistic boys do not and guessing

from the other values - I am guessing this is an autistic boy of 8 years).

Well, he doesn't have a value of 0 iron in his system - he has iron otherwise he

would be dead. This test is showing that he doesn't NEED additional iron.

Still useful info but to a point.

As adults (and as women) we need the actual ferritin level so we can do an

endocrine analysis correctly. The relative value of 0 makes no sense to an

endocrinologist. They will want (and should have) the actual ferritin number.

Does this make sense?

I think this is a great test and one of the best tests I have ever paid for.

Much more helpful than knowing your current vitamin/mineral levels which are

hard to measure anyway as the values we need are the ones IN the cells not in

the blood.

This test with the actual numbers for various amino acids is invaluable for

determining your oxidative stress AND provides a snapshot of the ways to correct

it.

I just don't want you to think you are purchasing a vitamin and mineral

assessment because you are not. As in the ferritin example, there should be

additional testing done for evaluation of other body systems that are not

working (ferritin and D3 are two important ones that come to mind).

I hope you don't think I am belaboring this point but knowing how to read the

test will help you understand how to get better which is our goal!

HTH,

Marti

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