Re: Gut & CFS, Visceral Hypersensitivity

May 1, 2012

Dear Group,

This is from the first link that was in the email about Gut & CFS, Visceral

Hypersensitivily

Although not included in the diagnostic criteria for IBS, mental and emotional

symptoms

are commonly present in patients with IBS. These may include

depression, anxiety, panic attacks and insomnia. This should not be

taken to mean that IBS is caused by psychiatric illness however, as not

everyone suffering from IBS has depression, for example, and not

everyone with depression has any gastrointestinal symptoms. It is a

similar situation as with all the other " Environmental Illness "

syndromes you will find on this website. The common presence of

psychiatric problems is a good indication that brain dysfunction is a

common factor involved with the ongoing state of illness in patients

with these syndromes. It is also interesting to know that there is a

strong link between the gut and the brain as both use many of the same

chemical messengers. With this in mind it's easy to see how a

disturbance in function of one, would cause symptoms in the other.

Recent research into the brain-gut axis has shed a lot of light on this

matter and will be discussed below.

When I first had a lot of problems with my bowels, which in my case was

constipation that would not let go of me for years, I learned from a doctor

that the large intestine and the brain are linked to each other better than

other organs are linked to the brain. When I asked a loud and very bewildered

" why " to express my deep surprise since both organs are not in any way similar,

he said that in the fetus the first two organs that are formed are the brain and

the large intestine. Because they are first two formed there are many more nerve

connections between them then we are aware of.

Since the large intestine and the brain are so well connected what can we do to

make the gut feel better that will make the brain feel better and therefore

allow us to cope with the daily life of CFS patient better.

Any suggestions as to how we baby our intestines, since they are one of the two

oldest organs that we have?

Mira

>

> From: melillo3@...

> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 19:55:43 -0700

> Subject: Gut & CFS, Visceral Hypersensitivity

>

> Gut problems in CFS could be 'Visceral Hypersensitivity'

>

> In a study of almost 12,000 Gulf war veterans, they were found to have a

> much higher incidence of IBS, as well as chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)

> and multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS), as diagnosed by their

> physicians, than the general population. Studies have also shown that

> those with Gulf war syndrome have “visceral hypersensitivity similar to

> patients with the irritable bowel syndrome”, meaning their intestines

> are more sensitive to normal stimuli, just as those of IBS patients are.

>

> (My added Note: GI doctors using low dose Desipramine to treat visceral

hypersensitivity)

>

> Source:

>

http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/environmental-illnesses/irritable\

-bowel-syndrome-%28ibs%29/

>

> Relative, From: http://ibs.about.com/od/symptomsofib1/a/IBS-PI.htm

>

> It is thought that during a GI infection, there is an increase in

> inflammatory cells in the lining of the intestines. Under typical

> circumstances, these cells decrease with time. Preliminary research into

> the matter suggests that this inflammatory response takes longer to

> dissipate in cases of IBS-PI and that higher numbers of these cells

> continue to be seen well after the initial infection.

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

May 1, 2012

I use Synertek first six hour colostrum and a high quality refrigerated

probiotic to reduce leaky gut symptoms which for me is IBS. I seldom have issues

with this supplementation.

Char Irvine - Sanford. Florida

On May 1, 2012, at 2:41 AM, Mira Ghoshal <mirasghoshal@...> wrote:

>

> Dear Group,

>

> This is from the first link that was in the email about Gut & CFS, Visceral

Hypersensitivily

>

> Although not included in the diagnostic criteria for IBS, mental and emotional

symptoms

> are commonly present in patients with IBS. These may include

> depression, anxiety, panic attacks and insomnia. This should not be

> taken to mean that IBS is caused by psychiatric illness however, as not

> everyone suffering from IBS has depression, for example, and not

> everyone with depression has any gastrointestinal symptoms. It is a

> similar situation as with all the other " Environmental Illness "

> syndromes you will find on this website. The common presence of

> psychiatric problems is a good indication that brain dysfunction is a

> common factor involved with the ongoing state of illness in patients

> with these syndromes. It is also interesting to know that there is a

> strong link between the gut and the brain as both use many of the same

> chemical messengers. With this in mind it's easy to see how a

> disturbance in function of one, would cause symptoms in the other.

> Recent research into the brain-gut axis has shed a lot of light on this

> matter and will be discussed below.

>

> When I first had a lot of problems with my bowels, which in my case was

constipation that would not let go of me for years, I learned from a doctor

that the large intestine and the brain are linked to each other better than

other organs are linked to the brain. When I asked a loud and very bewildered

" why " to express my deep surprise since both organs are not in any way similar,

he said that in the fetus the first two organs that are formed are the brain and

the large intestine. Because they are first two formed there are many more nerve

connections between them then we are aware of.

>

> Since the large intestine and the brain are so well connected what can we do

to make the gut feel better that will make the brain feel better and therefore

allow us to cope with the daily life of CFS patient better.

>

> Any suggestions as to how we baby our intestines, since they are one of the

two oldest organs that we have?

>

> Mira

>

>>

>> From: melillo3@...

>> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 19:55:43 -0700

>> Subject: Gut & CFS, Visceral Hypersensitivity

>>

>> Gut problems in CFS could be 'Visceral Hypersensitivity'

>>

>> In a study of almost 12,000 Gulf war veterans, they were found to have a

>> much higher incidence of IBS, as well as chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)

>> and multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS), as diagnosed by their

>> physicians, than the general population. Studies have also shown that

>> those with Gulf war syndrome have ï¿½visceral hypersensitivity similar to

>> patients with the irritable bowel syndromeï¿½, meaning their intestines

>> are more sensitive to normal stimuli, just as those of IBS patients are.

>>

>> (My added Note: GI doctors using low dose Desipramine to treat visceral

hypersensitivity)

>>

>> Source:

>>

http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/environmental-illnesses/irritable\

-bowel-syndrome-%28ibs%29/

>>

>> Relative, From: http://ibs.about.com/od/symptomsofib1/a/IBS-PI.htm

>>

>> It is thought that during a GI infection, there is an increase in

>> inflammatory cells in the lining of the intestines. Under typical

>> circumstances, these cells decrease with time. Preliminary research into

>> the matter suggests that this inflammatory response takes longer to

>> dissipate in cases of IBS-PI and that higher numbers of these cells

>> continue to be seen well after the initial infection.

>>

>> ------------------------------------

>>

>> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

May 1, 2012

I sometimes wonder re the nerve connections between gut and brain. Could it also

be vice versa and if we can heal the brain the gut will also be better?

Any thoughts anyone? Many thanks

Sent from my iPhon

On 1 May 2012, at 07:41, Mira Ghoshal <mirasghoshal@...> wrote: