Re: Probable cause of chronic fatigue syndrome...mycoplasma

[Guest guest]

mycoplasma is now known as an opportunistic pathogen of all these diseases that

affect our immune system. Remember, Dr Lo was also one of the authors about XMRV

which proved to be just a contaminant. Don't you think Dr Lo would have said

something about mycoplasma when he was talking at the many CFS meetings?

From: lemonfoundation <lemonfoundation@...>

Subject: " Probable cause of chronic fatigue

syndrome...mycoplasma "

Date: Saturday, May 12, 2012, 10:22 PM

Mycoplasma: The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases

" Several strains of mycoplasma have been " engineered " to become more dangerous.

They are now being blamed for AIDS, cancer, CFS, MS, CJD and other neurosystemic

diseases...

[Guest guest]

One of the profound problems in medicine is the approach of " reductio ad

absurdum " . To reduce the problem to a specific so that the wood can no

longer be seen for the trees.

The " Dubbo Study " looked at the long term outcome from three infectious

diseases, Epstein-Barr infection (Glandular Fever), Ross River Fever (an

arbovirus) and Q Fever (a rickettsial bacterial infection). The outcomes

were strikingly similar in that a similar proportion of study participants

came down with a chronic fatigue disorder. Lloyd was a bit more forthcoming

than the published paper from this study might have allowed. He was of the

opinion, that in a susceptible group of people, a severe infection could

result in a brain injury which then altered immune response.

Subsequent research has shown that CFS can be triggered by a much greater

number of infectious agents, as well as toxins and vaccinations.

The real question is which is horse and which is cart. Is the disordered

immune function a result of the infection or does it allow the infection to

trigger the cascade of events leading to CFS. I have no doubt of the reality

of the association between mycoplasma and CFS. However, as to whether it is

a causal relationship remains unproven.

I'm interested in Myhill's observations and inference that mitochondrial

problems may be at the root of CFS. Certainly, the altered response to

immune challenge and mitochondrial dysfunction are not mutually exclusive.

One of the areas not well explored is the relation of blood system defects

to the whole process. The concept of CCSVI (Chronic CerebroSpinal Vascular

Insufficiency) has made little impact on the CFS community but it's taken

off like wildfire amongst the Multiple Sclerosis community. The

relationship of CCSVI to atlas subluxation has largely been ignored but it

might prove to be another trigger in a series of cascades that have long

term fatigue and post-exertional malaise as their clinical endpoints.

R

" Probable cause of chronic fatigue

syndrome...mycoplasma "

> Mycoplasma: The Linking Pathogen in Neurosystemic Diseases

>

> " Several strains of mycoplasma have been " engineered " to become more

> dangerous. They are now being blamed for AIDS, cancer, CFS, MS, CJD and

> other neurosystemic diseases...

>

> According to Dr Shyh-Ching Lo, senior researcher at The Armed Forces

> Institute of Pathology and one of America's top mycoplasma researchers,

> this disease agent causes many illnesses including AIDS, cancer, chronic

> fatigue syndrome, Crohn's colitis, Type I diabetes, multiple sclerosis,

> Parkinson's disease, Wegener's disease and collagen-vascular diseases such

> as rheumatoid arthritis and Alzheimer's.

>

[Guest guest]

Neither CFIDS nor AIDS are even diseases. A syndrome is a syndrome.

There is no sole cause of either illness, and I believe that why it's so

convoluted for CFS patients in CFS forums to sort out (e.g., my acute-onset CFS

is infectious; your gradual-onset CFS is toxicity). We are not all the same.

AIDS and CFIDS (both syndromes) are 100% political paradigms. CFIDS and AIDS

patients are not dealing with science. They are dealing with politics.

Have you seen the 2009 *Award-winning* documentary, " House of Numbers: How the

HIV/AIDS Story is being rewritten " ?

A 2.5 min trailer can be seen: http://www.houseofnumbers.com/site/ or to watch

the whole 90 minutes:

I guarentee you

that this movie is mind-altering.

Two more good movies are:

" Beyond Treason " (2 min trailer, on bottom left): http://www.beyondtreason.com/

and

" World Government Forming Now " https://www.endtime.com/new-world-order/.

Do you live in an area with Chemtrails/Geo-Engineering? I believe this would

explain millions of CFS cases:

Take care,

k

www.cfsstraighttalk.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

{Moderator: Please!!! Trim Posts}

Hi ,

While it is true that a pathogen has not been announced in my case, I know

exactly when I acquired my NON-HIV pathogen (Feb 6, 2003) and exactly when I

infected someone else (April 1, 2003), because when this undiagnosed microbe

SLAMMED into our bodies' our *acute infections* were so distinguishable

(involving body-wrapping rashes and ER visits for severe 'medically

unexplainable symptoms'). We are all sick.

I spectulate that whatever the pathogen is (in my case), that it is grower

stronger the longer it goes undetected (i.e., wiping out its next victim harder

and faster than its last). I also believe that I had a genetic predisposition

to get really sick, really fast. I am still surprised that I am still alive to

talk about it.

This is the 1st letter I ever wrote (2004) and is the letter that eventually got

the United Nations to faciliate meetings for me to meet with Luc Montagnier

(Noble Prize for his HIV discovery) and his Parisian colleagues:

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SideEffects/Q160149.html Note that I was in

an AIDS forum. I had never even heard of CFS back then, and although I remain

ICD-coded as " CFS, " CFS remains the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Allied

government is covering-up NON-HIV AIDS cases by labeling us " CFS. "

My more recent letter (written in 2007) reads like this (published in 5

magazines and 'under review' w/ a couple others):

http://www.ei-resource.org/articles/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-articles/chronic-fa\

tigue-syndrome-and-non%11hiv-aids/

and is the one that I was able to get the White House to open an investigation,

Senator Kerry to forward my case to the head of the CDC, U.S. Global

Advisor to forward my case to the head of the NIH/NIAID, and conference call

with the America Red Cross.

I am very tapped into the scientific community, which is why I keep posting

pathogen links here.

I believe that the first hurdle in making progress with CFS research is for

people to acknowledge that HIV is NOT the cause of AIDS. The wrong pathogen,

HIV, is getting funded ($3.1billion of our taxmoney last year) when it monies

should being to fund to CFIDS.

>

> Hi.

> I read your blog and i am glad you are taking on these issues. I agree with

you that HIV is harmless and that Duesberg and others have refuted that.

[Guest guest]

On 5/15/12, lemonfoundation <lemonfoundation@...> wrote:

> I spectulate that whatever the pathogen is (in my case), that it is grower

> stronger the longer it goes undetected (i.e., wiping out its next victim

> harder and faster than its last). I also believe that I had a genetic

Hi lemonfoundation,

If a pathogen wipes victims out faster, in most cases it spreads less.

Therefore, pathogens tend to do the opposite over time as they

mutate. Example: sneezing spreads more; if colds killed people

instead, fewer people would get colds.

Therefore, if you observe what you speculate, then there must be a

special reason.

Any idea what that special reason might be? It could be a clue to

something if so.

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