Numbers if you have time to deconstruct in light of denail of trmt.

May 13, 2012

Hi People,

I went to the ER for extreme fatigue that's ongoing for several months, back to

last Fall when I caught a wicked flue/cold thing that made me cough so hard I

broke a rib. I haven't be the same since & the last mo. have only left my house

to go to the hospital. Some day are better than others. Long story short, the

last ER doc diagnosed me with Chronic Fatigue & adenopathy & wrote a consult to

go see Infectious Diseases. I totally know what's wrong with me is VIRAL and

ADRENAL/THYROID related. Due to the so-called health insurance- it blows- I'm

on, state/fed funded, another dept. in hosp. doesn't often okay ER's consults in

order to save the hosp. $. And they denied mine for Infectious Dept. visit. They

called me at home & said there's no physical reason for my fatigue, that I sould

see a shrink, & that I must have " sleep apnea " , as well as sending me an email

cc'ing like 8 ppl from hosp. who all met & discussed me (hello, Hipaa

violation?) bc I went thru 4 or so doctors since last Fall looking for answers &

getting none. The docs in that dept. are- let's just say not real concerned

about ptns- one told me I " look fine " so I can't be sick & I need to " smile

more " - etc. each one with totally diff. approach & none getting at the issues I

was there for, as if I wasn't even in the room. These visits & their clinic

notes read like Rorschach tests than reflections of what transpired.

Anyway, my mail Q. is can anyone looks at this Epstein-Barr result and tell me

if the numbers there could possibly make me tired. Hosp. says they're " not high

enough to cause you fatigue " . Yeah, well, everyone is different. Long-term

vegetarian, very thin, was very athletic, always into herbs, vitas, etc. & I

have a sensitive system to whatever I catch or passes thru it. Last note: Er did

call & specifically inform me my fatigue WAS caused by EBV, that fatigue is the

#1 effect of EBV and it " would explain my fatigue " . I never had mono ever & I'm

50. All I did was share some cups/drinks lately, which I used to never do but

got lax.

Eosinophils were over range, too, & ER said that causes fatigue. I have zero

allergies in this State & did fecal sample that came negative. I know my body is

missing something it desperately needs. A friend has extra Dexamethasone he gave

me this weekend & I have more energy & focus than I " ve has for years.

THANK YOU thank you.

Component Value Range & Units Status

EBV IGG AB VIRAL CAPSID 173.0 (H) 0.0 - 21.9 U/mL Final

This pattern of the EBV Antibodies findings is consistent with a convalescent

or past infection. Low levels of antibody to EA can be detectable in healthy

individuals for years after EBV infection.

REFERENCE INTERVAL: EBV Ab to Viral Capsid Ag, IgG and

EBV IGM AB VIRAL CAPSID <10.0 0.0 - 43.9 U/mL Final

EBV AB NUCL AG, IGG 43.2 (H) 0.0 - 21.9 U/mL Final

EBV AB EARLY D, IGG 11.5 (H) 0.0 - 10.9 U/mL Final

TOXOPLASMA ANTIBODY, IGG

Results

Status: Final result

4/20/2012 6:41 PM

Apr 18, 2012 6:15 PM CDT

Component Value Range & Units Status

TOXOPLASMA IGG SPECIMEN TYPE ACUTE Final

TOXOPLASMA IGG AB <5 - <=6 IU/mL

Component Value Range & Units Status

TSH, REFLEX 1.33 0.27 - 4.20 uIU/mL Final

Component Value Range & Units Status

ANION GAP 8 8 - 18 mEq/L Final

Component Value Range & Units Status

NEUTROPHILS-AUTO DIFF 4840 2188 - 7800 /MM3 Final

LYMPHOCYTES-AUTO DIFF 2080 875 - 3300 /MM3 Final

MONOCYTES-AUTO DIFF 420 130 - 860 /MM3 Final

EOSINOPHILS-AUTO DIFF 460 (H) 40 - 390 /MM3 Final

(High numbers of eosinophils (eosinophilia) are usually associated with allergic

diseases and infections from parasites such as worms. A high eosinophil count

may be due to:

* Asthma

* Autoimmune diseases

* Eczema

* Hay fever

* Leukemia)

BASOS-AUTO DIFF 50 10 - 136 /MM3 Final

IMMATURE GRANULOCYTES 20 /MM3 Final

May 13, 2012

My cfs started the same with with a bad case of the flu. I had some viral

test done a few years ago. My doctor said the viral load was too low to show

an active infection. It just meant that I had the virus some time ago. I got

sick in 88 and am still tired. My doc had no answers. I too hope somebody

can give a more detailed response. I was tested for the Epstein Barr along

with two other that I forget.

Numbers if you have time to deconstruct in

light of denail of trmt.

> Hi People,

>

> I went to the ER for extreme fatigue that's ongoing for several months,

> back to last Fall when I caught a wicked flue/cold thing that made me

> cough so hard I broke a rib. I haven't be the same since & the last mo.

> have only left my house to go to the hospital. Some day are better than

> others. Long story short, the last ER doc diagnosed me with Chronic

> Fatigue & adenopathy & wrote a consult to go see Infectious Diseases. I

> totally know what's wrong with me is VIRAL and ADRENAL/THYROID related.

> Due to the so-called health insurance- it blows- I'm on, state/fed funded,

> another dept. in hosp. doesn't often okay ER's consults in order to save

> the hosp. $. And they denied mine for Infectious Dept. visit. They called

> me at home & said there's no physical reason for my fatigue, that I sould

> see a shrink, & that I must have " sleep apnea " , as well as sending me an

> email cc'ing like 8 ppl from hosp. who all met & discussed me (hello,

> Hipaa violation?) bc I went thru 4 or so doctors sinc

> e last Fall looking for answers & getting none. The docs in that dept.

> are- let's just say not real concerned about ptns- one told me I " look

> fine " so I can't be sick & I need to " smile more " - etc. each one with

> totally diff. approach & none getting at the issues I was there for, as if

> I wasn't even in the room. These visits & their clinic notes read like

> Rorschach tests than reflections of what transpired.

>

> Anyway, my mail Q. is can anyone looks at this Epstein-Barr result and

> tell me if the numbers there could possibly make me tired. Hosp. says

> they're " not high enough to cause you fatigue " . Yeah, well, everyone is

> different. Long-term vegetarian, very thin, was very athletic, always into

> herbs, vitas, etc. & I have a sensitive system to whatever I catch or

> passes thru it. Last note: Er did call & specifically inform me my fatigue

> WAS caused by EBV, that fatigue is the #1 effect of EBV and it " would

> explain my fatigue " . I never had mono ever & I'm 50. All I did was share

> some cups/drinks lately, which I used to never do but got lax.

>

> Eosinophils were over range, too, & ER said that causes fatigue. I have

> zero allergies in this State & did fecal sample that came negative. I know

> my body is missing something it desperately needs. A friend has extra

> Dexamethasone he gave me this weekend & I have more energy & focus than

> I " ve has for years.

>

> THANK YOU thank you.

>

> Component Value Range & Units Status

> EBV IGG AB VIRAL CAPSID 173.0 (H) 0.0 - 21.9 U/mL Final

> This pattern of the EBV Antibodies findings is consistent with a

> convalescent or past infection. Low levels of antibody to EA can be

> detectable in healthy individuals for years after EBV infection.

> REFERENCE INTERVAL: EBV Ab to Viral Capsid Ag, IgG and

> EBV IGM AB VIRAL CAPSID <10.0 0.0 - 43.9 U/mL Final

> EBV AB NUCL AG, IGG 43.2 (H) 0.0 - 21.9 U/mL Final

> EBV AB EARLY D, IGG 11.5 (H) 0.0 - 10.9 U/mL Final

>

> TOXOPLASMA ANTIBODY, IGG

> Results

> Status: Final result

> 4/20/2012 6:41 PM

> Apr 18, 2012 6:15 PM CDT

> Component Value Range & Units Status

> TOXOPLASMA IGG SPECIMEN TYPE ACUTE Final

> TOXOPLASMA IGG AB <5 - <=6 IU/mL

>

> Component Value Range & Units Status

> TSH, REFLEX 1.33 0.27 - 4.20 uIU/mL Final

>

> Component Value Range & Units Status

> ANION GAP 8 8 - 18 mEq/L Final

>

> Component Value Range & Units Status

> NEUTROPHILS-AUTO DIFF 4840 2188 - 7800 /MM3 Final

> LYMPHOCYTES-AUTO DIFF 2080 875 - 3300 /MM3 Final

> MONOCYTES-AUTO DIFF 420 130 - 860 /MM3 Final

> EOSINOPHILS-AUTO DIFF 460 (H) 40 - 390 /MM3 Final

> (High numbers of eosinophils (eosinophilia) are usually associated with

> allergic diseases and infections from parasites such as worms. A high

> eosinophil count may be due to:

> * Asthma

> * Autoimmune diseases

> * Eczema

> * Hay fever

> * Leukemia)

>

> BASOS-AUTO DIFF 50 10 - 136 /MM3 Final

> IMMATURE GRANULOCYTES 20 /MM3 Final

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

> other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

> discussed here, please consult your doctor.

May 14, 2012

Hi,

Thyroid and Adrenal hormones may not be a factor for everyone but they are for

many. If possible, get blood testing done Free T4, Free T3 and thyroid

antibodies for thyroid and cortisol levels for Adrenals. May try to get an ACTH

stim test to see if your adrenals can produce enough cortisol. If you have

medical insurance should cover this but if not can use saliva testing from

canaryclub.org online.

If your cortisol and thyroid levels are low fix the cortisol first and then

start the thyroid. If you do it the other way around it can make you sicker.

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

>

> Hi People,

>

> I went to the ER for extreme fatigue that's ongoing for several months, back

to last Fall when I caught a wicked flue/cold thing that made me cough so hard I