Re: How I Make My Yogurt Which May, or May Not, Still Be MAF

[Guest guest]

I wonder how someone in U.S. could get a starter of this MAF 878?

Without becoming a patient of Dr. Enlander (He's clear across the

continent from me), is there any other source that you know?

Jill

On 5/24/2012 9:34 AM, yoganandaom wrote:

>

> Hi EveryOne,

>

> FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT! THIS IS HOW I MAKE MY YOGURT! IT DOES NOT

> NECESSARILY HAVE THE SAME, OR ANY, MAF INGREDIENTS THAT I STARTED

> WITH. ONLY A LAB COULD TELL THAT AND I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A LAB.

>

> I am happy to share how I make my yogurt as long as everyone

> understands that it may, or may not, be the same as what I started

> with. It may or may not still be MAF yogurt! I honestly don't know! I

> researched it for several months to find out how to do it but whether

> it works or not is unknown.

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry I have to ask some basic questions. Can anyone take MAF or Gcmaf, or are

either contraindicated in some cases?

I also could not see where to order MAF yogurt and Enlander's website and they

are not answering the phone now. The yogurt option seems affordable.

BTW, if you make the yogurt with raw milk you don't have to heat the milk, just

leave it out in a glass jar and it will become sour in a few days, although it

doesn't get real firm like yogurt.  Raw milk is much better for you than

pasteurized and is one of the best healing foods.

[Guest guest]

hi paul. ...so far, gcmaf/maf may be contraindicated if you have an autoimmune

condition like MS.

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From: Hess <bmfb@...>

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 4:11:34 PM

Subject: Re: How I Make My Yogurt Which May, or May Not,

Still Be MAF

 

Sorry I have to ask some basic questions. Can anyone take MAF or Gcmaf, or are

either contraindicated in some cases?

I also could not see where to order MAF yogurt and Enlander's website and they

are not answering the phone now. The yogurt option seems affordable.

BTW, if you make the yogurt with raw milk you don't have to heat the milk, just

leave it out in a glass jar and it will become sour in a few days, although it

doesn't get real firm like yogurt.  Raw milk is much better for you than

pasteurized and is one of the best healing foods.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jill,

Dr. Cheney has MAF 314 and teaches workshops to make it but he is also on the

East Coast.

You might check out in Europe

http://www.gcmaf.co.uk/info/

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

> >

> > Hi EveryOne,

> >

> > FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT! THIS IS HOW I MAKE MY YOGURT! IT DOES NOT

> > NECESSARILY HAVE THE SAME, OR ANY, MAF INGREDIENTS THAT I STARTED

> > WITH. ONLY A LAB COULD TELL THAT AND I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A LAB.

> >

> > I am happy to share how I make my yogurt as long as everyone

> > understands that it may, or may not, be the same as what I started

> > with. It may or may not still be MAF yogurt! I honestly don't know! I

> > researched it for several months to find out how to do it but whether

> > it works or not is unknown.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I am a patient of Dr. Enlander so I bought the MAF Yogurt during my second visit

to his office in NYC in January.

I don't know if they sell it to people who are not his patients but suppose it

would do no harm to ask them.

The reason I don't make this yogurt from raw milk is I don't want the bacteria

in raw milk, or any milk, to change the bacteria already in the culture. The

specific bacteria in the culture are at least part of the reason the yogurt

works though I suspect there are other aspects such as the colostrum and kefir

mentioned by Dr. Enlander in his recent video.

I agree about raw milk, just not for this purpose..... however, I can't help but

notice the similarity between the symptoms of Brucellosis and ME/CFS which does

give me pause...

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

>

> Sorry I have to ask some basic questions. Can anyone take MAF or Gcmaf, or are

either contraindicated in some cases?

> I also could not see where to order MAF yogurt and Enlander's website and they

are not answering the phone now. The yogurt option seems affordable.

>

> BTW, if you make the yogurt with raw milk you don't have to heat the milk,

just leave it out in a glass jar and it will become sour in a few days, although

it doesn't get real firm like yogurt.  Raw milk is much better for you than

pasteurized and is one of the best healing foods.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow even the starter is out of my price range! I'll bookmark this

link, though, in case I win a lottery (ha) Thanks for the link, I'll do

more reading, too.

Jill

On 5/24/2012 1:51 PM, yoganandaom wrote:

>

> Hi Jill,

>

> Dr. Cheney has MAF 314 and teaches workshops to make it but he is also

> on the East Coast.

>

> You might check out in Europe

> http://www.gcmaf.co.uk/info/

>

> Peace, Love and Harmony,

> Bev

>

>

> >

> > I wonder how someone in U.S. could get a starter of this MAF 878?

> > Without becoming a patient of Dr. Enlander (He's clear across the

> > continent from me), is there any other source that you know?

> > Jill

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Jeff Bradstreet is using GcMAF in Atlanta Georgia. He may be using the

Yogurt too.

________________________________

From: JL <jlynch@...>

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:36:33 PM

Subject: Re: How I Make My Yogurt Which May, or May Not,

Still Be MAF

  I wonder how someone in U.S. could get a starter of this MAF 878?

Without becoming a patient of Dr. Enlander (He's clear across the

continent from me), is there any other source that you know?

Jill

On 5/24/2012 9:34 AM, yoganandaom wrote:

>

> Hi EveryOne,

>

> FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT! THIS IS HOW I MAKE MY YOGURT! IT DOES NOT

> NECESSARILY HAVE THE SAME, OR ANY, MAF INGREDIENTS THAT I STARTED

> WITH. ONLY A LAB COULD TELL THAT AND I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A LAB.

>

> I am happy to share how I make my yogurt as long as everyone

> understands that it may, or may not, be the same as what I started

> with. It may or may not still be MAF yogurt! I honestly don't know! I

> researched it for several months to find out how to do it but whether

> it works or not is unknown.

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

What is someone is allergic to milk products in the first place? I cannot take

something that will produce a allergy reaction every time I have to take it.

Does that mean that I would have to take the medication in its pure form only?

I tried to be treated using homeopathic methods and all that happened is that my

allergies got worse and I am now allergic to milk.

Mira

[Guest guest]

It seems it's becoming more well-known, now. I'm in Idaho, so a bit

far to travel, but hopefully the word will spread this direction in less

that 20 years.

Thanks for that referral.

Jill

On 5/24/2012 4:54 PM, Sue wrote:

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> Dr. Jeff Bradstreet is using GcMAF in Atlanta Georgia. He may be using

> the Yogurt too.

>

> ________________________________

> From: JL <jlynch@... <mailto:jlynch%40orofino-id.com>>

>

> <mailto:%40>

> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:36:33 PM

> Subject: Re: How I Make My Yogurt Which May, or

> May Not, Still Be MAF

>

> I wonder how someone in U.S. could get a starter of this MAF 878?

> Without becoming a patient of Dr. Enlander (He's clear across the

> continent from me), is there any other source that you know?

> Jill

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mira! They say that the yogurt should not be taken by people with milk

allergies....but the shots can be had for less money at places other than Dr.

Enlander's. When he says $5000, he means for 18 vials......but if your dose is

small, those vials will last over a year....although the freezer life might be a

year so you could buy less and see....

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From: Mira Ghoshal <mirasghoshal@...>

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:28:38 PM

Subject: RE: How I Make My Yogurt Which May, or May Not,

Still Be MAF

 

Dear Group,

What is someone is allergic to milk products in the first place? I cannot take

something that will produce a allergy reaction every time I have to take it.

Does that mean that I would have to take the medication in its pure form only?

I tried to be treated using homeopathic methods and all that happened is that my

allergies got worse and I am now allergic to milk.

Mira

[Guest guest]

Jill...you could post on the phoenix rising cfs fourm....there are many people

there and someone may know of another doctor closer to you. one person mentioned

that their naturopath was giving it!

________________________________

From: JL <jlynch@...>

Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:31:42 PM

Subject: Re: How I Make My Yogurt Which May, or May Not,

Still Be MAF

  It seems it's becoming more well-known, now. I'm in Idaho, so a bit

far to travel, but hopefully the word will spread this direction in less

that 20 years.

Thanks for that referral.

Jill

On 5/24/2012 4:54 PM, Sue wrote:

>

> Dr. Jeff Bradstreet is using GcMAF in Atlanta Georgia. He may be using

> the Yogurt too.

>

> ________________________________

> From: JL <jlynch@... <mailto:jlynch%40orofino-id.com>>

>

> <mailto:%40>

> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:36:33 PM

> Subject: Re: How I Make My Yogurt Which May, or

> May Not, Still Be MAF

>

> I wonder how someone in U.S. could get a starter of this MAF 878?

> Without becoming a patient of Dr. Enlander (He's clear across the

> continent from me), is there any other source that you know?

> Jill

>

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This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice.  If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

[Guest guest]

sue,

what other, cheaper places are there for GcMAF?

thanks,

jim

[Guest guest]

Yes!! good idea which I did not think of. Thanks.. brain glitches today.

Jill

On 5/25/2012 1:48 AM, Sue wrote:

>

> Jill...you could post on the phoenix rising cfs fourm....there are

> many people there and someone may know of another doctor closer to

> you. one person mentioned that their naturopath was giving it!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mira,

To create MAF Yogurt certain proteins in the milk are changed by specific

bacteria into MAF therefore as far as I have ever read, you need to use milk to

get MAF Yogurt. You might do better with the GcMAF injections since you are

allergic to milk.

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

>

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> Dear Group,

>

> What is someone is allergic to milk products in the first place? I cannot take

something that will produce a allergy reaction every time I have to take it.

Does that mean that I would have to take the medication in its pure form only?

>

> I tried to be treated using homeopathic methods and all that happened is that

my allergies got worse and I am now allergic to milk.

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