Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 I know what a 'kicker' personality-- Since my son has always been sick, he doesn't know the difference-- he is a charmer- his little 18 lb body- moves and readjusts furniture wherever he goes--On Friday,PED re-vaccinated him w/Prevnar to see it it takes(doubt it)-- PED put bandaids on his shot sites-he took each off and threw them at the PEd, He then removed his socks one by one and threw each at the PEd and picked up his heavy sneaker to begin throwing those,too--He told the Ped he was 'fresh'-- God makes these kids enjoyable to be with to offset all the time and work to try to keep them well.. Gluten I know so much about ingredients its scary. I have a bad habit of saying " Do you know whats in that? " But only to my family and good friends. Sara cant have any grains,milk products,protein,soy and the list goen on and on. She eats...pickles,cucumbers,peas,corn,pears,pineapple,oranges,rice and these are natural the rice can be boiled but just plain. Maybe some day they will be able to test her but for now it doesnt matter,she is already on a gluten free diet and if she did have celiac she would have to be on a gluten free diet so why add it when she clearly cant tolerate it. Its all crazy. She was just diagnosed with Hypothyroidism and has just started taking Synthroid. so thats just another thing she has to deal with. She has chronic sinusitis,alopecia areata,vitiligo,asthma,severe protein intollerance,CVID, hypothyroidism,and a personality that would knock your socks off! Let us know what the test results are. mom to Sara 4 and Casey 3 both CVID an so on... This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional advice. To unsubscribe -unsubscribegroups (DOT) To search group archives go to: /messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2003 Report Share Posted July 21, 2003 I know what a 'kicker' personality-- Since my son has always been sick, he doesn't know the difference-- he is a charmer- his little 18 lb body- moves and readjusts furniture wherever he goes--On Friday,PED re-vaccinated him w/Prevnar to see it it takes(doubt it)-- PED put bandaids on his shot sites-he took each off and threw them at the PEd, He then removed his socks one by one and threw each at the PEd and picked up his heavy sneaker to begin throwing those,too--He told the Ped he was 'fresh'-- God makes these kids enjoyable to be with to offset all the time and work to try to keep them well.. Gluten I know so much about ingredients its scary. I have a bad habit of saying " Do you know whats in that? " But only to my family and good friends. Sara cant have any grains,milk products,protein,soy and the list goen on and on. She eats...pickles,cucumbers,peas,corn,pears,pineapple,oranges,rice and these are natural the rice can be boiled but just plain. Maybe some day they will be able to test her but for now it doesnt matter,she is already on a gluten free diet and if she did have celiac she would have to be on a gluten free diet so why add it when she clearly cant tolerate it. Its all crazy. She was just diagnosed with Hypothyroidism and has just started taking Synthroid. so thats just another thing she has to deal with. She has chronic sinusitis,alopecia areata,vitiligo,asthma,severe protein intollerance,CVID, hypothyroidism,and a personality that would knock your socks off! Let us know what the test results are. mom to Sara 4 and Casey 3 both CVID an so on... This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional advice. To unsubscribe -unsubscribegroups (DOT) To search group archives go to: /messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 A chemist addresses this issue at the following link: http://www.celiac.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=191 bakerdan34 <bakerdan34@...> wrote: Does wheat sprouts contain Gluten? Are they safe of folks who are Gluten intolerant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 The grain is messed up from sitting slightly damp in silos and railroad cars and growing mold. Corn collects a mold which creates a poison called aflatoxin. Hugh GLUTEN Hmmm, one has to wonder if there is something wrong with the grain these days or is it the people? Bad breeding LOL??? In Bible days people ate lots of grain with no problems. It has to be one or the other. Or maybe it is that so many people have yeast overgrowth and that is causing the intollerance and leaky guts. Our stores have an overgrowth of starch and sugar products for sure!!! Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Hi, Wheat also used to be harvested differently. Gathered up into sheaves and left to sit in the fields to be brought in. In the damp, cool weather, the wheat would start to sprout, enzymatically digest and break down the gluten structure. Wheat now has also been bred to have more gluten for it's sticky, gluey properties, so useful in processed food. So, not too long ago in the grand scheme of things, wheat had much less gluten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 On 1/21/2008, oxyplus (oxyplus ) wrote: > In Bible days people ate lots of grain with no problems. Really? Are you sure about that? > It has to be one or the other. Unproven premise... Maybe they didn't eat a LOT... or maybe they mainly ate low-gluten breads (like rye and barley)... My suspicion is they didn't eat all that much bread, and what they did eat was mostly sprouted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 In Bible days they didn't stick the grains in silos for months at a time for storage in a mold-encouraging atmosphere. Hugh Re: GLUTEN On 1/21/2008, oxyplus@groups .com (oxyplus@groups .com) wrote: > In Bible days people ate lots of grain with no problems. Really? Are you sure about that? > It has to be one or the other. Unproven premise... Maybe they didn't eat a LOT... or maybe they mainly ate low-gluten breads (like rye and barley)... My suspicion is they didn't eat all that much bread, and what they did eat was mostly sprouted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 > GLUTEN > > > Hmmm, one has to wonder if there is something wrong with the grain these > days or is it the people? Bad breeding LOL??? In Bible days people > ate lots of grain with no problems. It has to be one or the other. > Or maybe it is that so many people have yeast overgrowth and that is > causing the intollerance and leaky guts. Our stores have an > overgrowth of starch and sugar products for sure!!! Steph > > HI Steph & all, This is kind of interesting to me. I like to observe people and their habits in how it relates to health issues. Bible days it does seem grains were a staple. How much they ate is really not disclosed but they often talked about eating a lot of fish and bread is also mentioned, beef as well. Sugar was honey and dates and raisins was a staple, too. A variety of foods are mentioned but I am thinking it was probably a better quality than what we have now. However, junk food was never mentioned. lol I don't think it's so much about the food as in the quality of that food. Regarding health issues, there is a comment in the Bible telling to drink a 'little wine' for his stomache problems and 'frequent infirminties'. I mention this because I think it is so interesting as it goes along with the theory of illnesses starting in the gut and the importance of good bacteria in the gut. Fermented wine would be a good way to supply with this. Gail > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Gail, people with bad candida are already fermented LOL, so more fermented wine would not be a good thing. All I have to drink is ONE swallow and every blood vessel in my body feels like it is swelling up and my leg muscles go to cramping so I can hardly walk. Weird I know, but I am sure it because I am already pickled from the candida. At this point I am pretty certain nothing is going to work short of getting out of this climate unless I am able to do the stricktly meat and vegitable diet which I have consistently failed at. I HATE meat and can't digest it, and the vegitables do nothing for hunger and starvation. The cream of tartar helps keep it down a tad, but how long can I keep eating that stuff without a major problem I wonder? It seems my intestines are seriously swollen since I started taking it~~~so much so it has pressed against my vaginal area to the point where I am swollen shut 8:>[{ Most everything I take to kill the candida has a similar effect on my intestines. I am guessing they are so full of holes from the candida burrowing into them that everything bothers me. I am thinking that is the cause of celiacs? Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Steph, Try the aloe vera for your intestines. It's not fermented. Might help. gail > > > Gail, people with bad candida are already fermented LOL, so more > fermented wine would not be a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I don't use milk, and I don't buy bread from the grocery store (with the rare exception of Ezekiel muffins). Yes, I agree, labels can be tricky: " made from whole wheat " does not mean that is is ALL whole wheat, sad to say, but true. Companies will do what they can get away with. I started making my own whole wheat bread over 20 years ago. I rarely make it now, but do enjoy it, when I do. I do agree that white flour is an awful thing. And white sugar, and artificial sweeteners, and... Thia On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote: > > > Gluten is sticky stuff.... Casien is used in glue or used to be... so > imagine whiteflour and casien together in your gut we call it elmers glue... > ok don't know if that is valid or not, but wheat must be processed therefore > we did not evolve to eat it... If you are sure you don't have any problems > with it.. just make sure you do it whole grain or better yet sprouted and > you can't even trust the ingredient list, cause they don't have to tell you > how much whole grain is in a food.. so the safest thing to do is to cooked > or sprout it yourself. I have a problem with both wheat and dairy so I am > much better off staying away from it as much as possible. > > As for anything you eat... get it in the rawest state possible.. raw > milk.... sprouted wheat ... etc... then you can cook it if you want or it > needs to be in order to eat it.. And for those of you that believe in the > garden of eden diet/senerio... they didn't eat wheat and I would bet my last > dollar, they didn't take milk away from the mothers to drink for > themselves... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Thia .... <bipolyf@...> wrote: > > I do agree that white flour is an awful thing. And by that, I am NOT referring to the " white " whole wheat flour, but to the stripped down, supposedly " enriched " flour typically used in most commercial products. Thia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I am in agreement with the comment about the mother's milk--cow's milk is intended for baby cows! Human milk is intended for baby humans. So what's up with adults still drinking milk, especially that intended for an animal not their own mother?! As for whether or not wheat was eaten in the Garden of Eden, we can't know that since we weren't there. However, I do recall that Jesus and his disciples (4 millennia later) walked in a field of wheat and ate some right off the stalk--so why couldn't Adam and Eve have done the same? Connie http://www.home-and-school-solutions.com > > > > > grains - the main thing to avoid there is GLUTEN. > > pseudograins like Amaranth, Quinoa, Backwheat and wildrice are Gluten free > > and when sprouted are very nutritional. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 On 4/30/09, Connie Lacelle <groups@...> wrote: > > As for whether or not wheat was eaten in the Garden of Eden, > we can't know that since we weren't there. However, I do recall that Jesus and his disciples (4 millennia later) walked in a field of wheat and ate some right off the stalk--so why couldn't Adam and Eve have done the same? According to many scholars, wheat didn't have large ears until the advent of agriculture. Before that, it was a grass with a seed head about like you will see in some of the grasses on your lawn when they grow a seed head. It was selective planting that created the wheat we know today. If these scholars are correct, wheat as we recognize it wouldn't have been in the Garden of Eden. Though I don't see why Adam and Eve might not have eaten the grass seeds . . . who knows? Surely not I. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Hey Connie, I agree, with both comments. I have recently discovered that Cow's milk really aggrevates my gut. I can drink Goat/s milk in moderation. I think somewhere in the Bible it mentions drinking Goat's milk but I am not sure. I actually use Goat's milk when baking bread and we have made homemade icecream using goats milk and Agave Nectar. Delicious!!!!! On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Connie Lacelle < groups@...> wrote: > > > I am in agreement with the comment about the mother's milk--cow's milk is > intended for baby cows! Human milk is intended for baby humans. > > > I do recall that Jesus and his disciples (4 millennia later) walked in a > field of wheat and ate some right off the stalk--so why couldn't Adam and > Eve have done the same? > > Connie > http://www.home-and-school-solutions.com > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Eve, You have the wrong person. Sherry ________________________________ From: Eva Noble <ernoble@...> Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 11:56:20 AM Subject: Gluten  Hi Sherry, Cheddar, walnut, spinach loaf made with spelt flour....... .that sounds wonderful! I will have to try to make that soon. I will let you know how it turns out. Eve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 The gold standard test would be too eliminate wheat for a week or two. Then fast, dinner to dinner, on water only. Then eat seitan wheat gluten, available in asian markets. If there is a reaction, then one has a positive test. If negative, then there are other issues involved.Billions of rural asians have been eating whole grains for centuries. They are the healthiest, longest lived people on the planet. Compared to the 9 or so in the Nonceliac Gluten Intolerance study. Dr Medlin's link http://www.wholegrainscouncil.org/whole-grains-101/health-studies-on-whole-grainsis full of published science.Alan D.C. From: dcdocbrian@...Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:33:00 -0700Subject: gluten Just published. Seitz, DC Tuality Physicians 730-D SE Oak St Hillsboro, OR 97123 (503)640-3724Nonceliac Gluten Intolerance?Gluten caused gastrointestinal symptoms in some individuals without celiac disease.Many people without celiac disease actively follow gluten-free diets and insist that gluten produces symptoms. Some of these individuals believe that they have celiac disease, despite negative test results, and many cannot be adequately tested because they are following a gluten-free diet. Can gluten cause gastrointestinal symptoms in people without celiac disease, and — if so — by what mechanism? To answer these questions, researchers in Australia conducted a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled, dietary rechallenge trial involving individuals with irritable bowel syndrome who were proven not to have celiac disease and whose symptoms were under control on a gluten-free diet.Participants were recruited through advertisements. Proof that celiac disease was not present required either absence of the HLA-DQ2 and HLA-DQ8 haplotypes or a normal duodenal biopsy at endoscopy while the person was on a gluten-containing diet. Of the 39 individuals who met the inclusion criteria and were enrolled, 5 were excluded (4 because of inadequate symptom control during the 2-week baseline period and 1 because of acute psychiatric illness). All participants followed a gluten-free diet; in addition, they were asked to eat two slices of bread and one muffin daily (these foods contained gluten for the gluten group but were gluten free for the placebo group). Preliminary testing showed that the taste and texture of the gluten-free and gluten-containing products were identical.Nine participants stopped the study diet prematurely because of intolerable symptoms (6 in the gluten group after a median of 7 days and 3 in the placebo group after a median of 16 days). Poorly controlled symptoms were reported during more than half of the 6-week study period by more gluten-group participants than placebo-group participants (68% vs. 40%; P=0.001). During the entire study period, scores for pain, satisfaction with stool consistency, and tiredness were significantly worse in the gluten group than in the placebo group. Neither group showed significant changes in levels of fecal lactoferrin or celiac antibodies or in measures of intestinal permeability. Responses to gluten were similar between participants who had HLA-DQ2, HLA-DQ8, or both, and those who did not.Comment: Although this study does not identify a mechanism for nonceliac gluten intolerance, it provides the most convincing evidence yet for the existence of this condition. Certainly, getting tested for celiac disease before a gluten-free trial is still optimal, given the implications of a celiac diagnosis — including the necessity of strict adherence to a gluten-free diet, an increased cancer risk, and the need to screen family members.— K. Rex, MDPublished in Journal Watch Gastroenterology April 8, 2011CITATION(S):Biesiekierski JR et al. Gluten causes gastrointestinal symptoms in subjects without celiac disease: A double-blind randomized placebo-controlled trial. Am J Gastroenterol 2011 Mar; 106:508.Medline abstract (Free) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 My wife was diagnosed fibromyalgia 5 years ago. She went to doctors with her health deteriorating, much weight gain, gall bladder removal and knee problems that doctors recommended knee replacement saying all was fibro related. Being 42 I thought there had to be a alternative. I researched other alternatives and decided to go with a new alternative called prolotherapy. This dr. told her he didn't think she had fibro and tested her for gluten intolerance, hormone in balance and thyroid. She test positive for all these even though her other doctors had tested for these they showed negative. Her doctor recommended the hcg diet in which he is on, go on a gluten free diet, take thyroid medication, hormone medication and prolotherapy injections in her knees which is extremely painful. Started july 2011 and lost 68 pounds, no more fibro type pain, sleeping really great and knees are not better but no pain as long as she don't over do it. She still undergoing prolo. But feels great. Â Just letting everyone know just in case of a misdiagnosis and hope it helps someone. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Good for you for looking further!!! I too lost 60 lbs on the HCG diet. Dr. Teitlebaum has some posts referring the HCG helping with fibro pain. Have you looked into LDN?? It is a big help for Fibro and other health issues. God Bless, Sara > > My wife was diagnosed fibromyalgia 5 years ago. She went to doctors with her health deteriorating, much weight gain, gall bladder removal and knee problems that doctors recommended knee replacement saying all was fibro related. Being 42 I thought there had to be a alternative. I researched other alternatives and decided to go with a new alternative called prolotherapy. This dr. told her he didn't think she had fibro and tested her for gluten intolerance, hormone in balance and thyroid. She test positive for all these even though her other doctors had tested for these they showed negative. Her doctor recommended the hcg diet in which he is on, go on a gluten free diet, take thyroid medication, hormone medication and prolotherapy injections in her knees which is extremely painful. Started july 2011 and lost 68 pounds, no more fibro type pain, sleeping really great and knees are not better but no pain as long as she don't over do it. She still undergoing > prolo. But feels great. > > Â Just letting everyone know just in case of a misdiagnosis and hope it helps someone. > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Alan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 She did have fatigue and all the pressure points hurt like fibro. She would get up each morning and could feel each vertebrae in her back. As far as the fibro symptoms she is totally normal unless she gets a the smallest amount of contamination. Even soap and shampoo has gluten.The gluten was damaging her intestine to the point that there was no absorption of minerals. That is why the weight gain. Her body was starving for the necessary nutrients so it was storing the unnecessary fat. She is teacher and she has done so well the school system ask her to put up a blog. I will post it soon as she gets it up. ________________________________ From: Chardale Irvine <ch_irv@...> " " < > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 11:38 PM Subject: Re: gluten  I'm glad prolo worked for her. I had it for a year and saw no improvement. My pain was not joint related though. I started taking savella then which helped with the pain but not the fatigue at all. Did your wife have fatigue too? Has that improved? On May 18, 2012, at 4:35 PM, alan parker <pilotdad28645@...> wrote: > My wife was diagnosed fibromyalgia 5 years ago. She went to doctors with her health deteriorating, much weight gain, gall bladder removal and knee problems that doctors recommended knee replacement saying all was fibro related. Being 42 I thought there had to be a alternative. I researched other alternatives and decided to go with a new alternative called prolotherapy. This dr. told her he didn't think she had fibro and tested her for gluten intolerance, hormone in balance and thyroid. She test positive for all these even though her other doctors had tested for these they showed negative. Her doctor recommended the hcg diet in which he is on, go on a gluten free diet, take thyroid medication, hormone medication and prolotherapy injections in her knees which is extremely painful. Started july 2011 and lost 68 pounds, no more fibro type pain, sleeping really great and knees are not better but no pain as long as she don't over do it. She still undergoing > prolo. But feels great. > > Just letting everyone know just in case of a misdiagnosis and hope it helps someone. > Alan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Yes, since a week I have cut of grains and I feel better surely . Lesser pains and lesser bloating On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 10:24 AM, marti_zavala <marti_zavala@...>wrote: > ** > > > Where did this start " HCG works well for fibro pain " ? Please provide links > from PubMed or a reliable source (not a website selling it). > > HCG has nothing to do with relieving pain of any kind, period. HCG is the > chemical in a pregnant woman's urine that changes the metabolism that > protects the fetus from feast or famine effects. > > I lost 45 lbs on the diet and some days it was difficult to eat more 300 > calories and some days it was hard to stay at 500 calories. Basically, you > are living off your own fat and the fresh food is providing your daily > minerals. > > I also found, by accident, that my body LOVES the food that is approved on > the diet. I also realized how badly my body feels with carbs and fat (I > knew this already just not the extent). > > So, while I don't eat 500 calories, I still eat the foods on the approved > list. I can digest them so much better. > > Perhaps people mean by staying off carbs/gluten, they have less muscle > pain? Please let's clarify this or people are going to start ordering HCG > to handle their pain. You can stay off carbs/gluten and feel better without > taking HCG. > > Marti > > > > > > > > > > > My wife was diagnosed fibromyalgia 5 years ago. She went to doctors > with > > > > her health deteriorating, much weight gain, gall bladder removal and > > > knee > > > > problems that doctors recommended knee replacement saying all was > fibro > > > > related. Being 42 I thought there had to be a alternative. I > researched > > > > other alternatives and decided to go with a new alternative called > > > > prolotherapy. This dr. told her he didn't think she had fibro and > tested > > > > her for gluten intolerance, hormone in balance and thyroid. She test > > > > positive for all these even though her other doctors had tested for > > > these > > > > they showed negative. Her doctor recommended the hcg diet in which > he is > > > > on, go on a gluten free diet, take thyroid medication, hormone > > > medication > > > > and prolotherapy injections in her knees which is extremely painful. > > > > Started july 2011 and lost 68 pounds, no more fibro type pain, > sleeping > > > > really great and knees are not better but no pain as long as she > don't > > > > over do it. She still undergoing > > > > prolo. But feels great. > > > > > > > > Just letting everyone know just in case of a misdiagnosis and hope it > > > > helps someone. > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Its just my own experience and the experience of many many others with fibro on hcg chat groups of dieters, I interracted with them a lot over the last year of dieting. I'm not aware this has ever been studied, it's strictly people's experience. marcia Re: gluten Where did this start " HCG works well for fibro pain " ? Please provide links from PubMed or a reliable source (not a website selling it). HCG has nothing to do with relieving pain of any kind, period. HCG is the chemical in a pregnant woman's urine that changes the metabolism that protects the fetus from feast or famine effects. I lost 45 lbs on the diet and some days it was difficult to eat more 300 calories and some days it was hard to stay at 500 calories. Basically, you are living off your own fat and the fresh food is providing your daily minerals. I also found, by accident, that my body LOVES the food that is approved on the diet. I also realized how badly my body feels with carbs and fat (I knew this already just not the extent). So, while I don't eat 500 calories, I still eat the foods on the approved list. I can digest them so much better. Perhaps people mean by staying off carbs/gluten, they have less muscle pain? Please let's clarify this or people are going to start ordering HCG to handle their pain. You can stay off carbs/gluten and feel better without taking HCG. Marti > > > > > > My wife was diagnosed fibromyalgia 5 years ago. She went to doctors > > > with > > > her health deteriorating, much weight gain, gall bladder removal and > > knee > > > problems that doctors recommended knee replacement saying all was > > > fibro > > > related. Being 42 I thought there had to be a alternative. I > > > researched > > > other alternatives and decided to go with a new alternative called > > > prolotherapy. This dr. told her he didn't think she had fibro and > > > tested > > > her for gluten intolerance, hormone in balance and thyroid. She test > > > positive for all these even though her other doctors had tested for > > these > > > they showed negative. Her doctor recommended the hcg diet in which he > > > is > > > on, go on a gluten free diet, take thyroid medication, hormone > > medication > > > and prolotherapy injections in her knees which is extremely painful. > > > Started july 2011 and lost 68 pounds, no more fibro type pain, > > > sleeping > > > really great and knees are not better but no pain as long as she don't > > > over do it. She still undergoing > > > prolo. But feels great. > > > > > > Just letting everyone know just in case of a misdiagnosis and hope it > > > helps someone. > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Bravo for your wife to have found a good doctor. My pain decreased 85% when I found out I was gluten intolerant and stopped eating gluten. Now if I could just get rid of this damn fatigue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Maybe the food your eating is what's causing fibro. ________________________________ From: MG <happytrails@...> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Re: gluten  I also lost 64 lbs on the hcg diet and felt great while on the hcg, but after the diet ended, the pain ALL came back and it's really hard not to let the weight come back as well. I always felt there was really something to the fact that all the fibro patients felt so well while taking even the homeopathic hcg. I wish the results lasted. But I wonder what the connection is. Marcia Re: gluten Good for you for looking further!!! I too lost 60 lbs on the HCG diet. Dr. Teitlebaum has some posts referring the HCG helping with fibro pain. Have you looked into LDN?? It is a big help for Fibro and other health issues. God Bless, Sara > > My wife was diagnosed fibromyalgia 5 years ago. She went to doctors with > her health deteriorating, much weight gain, gall bladder removal and knee > problems that doctors recommended knee replacement saying all was fibro > related. Being 42 I thought there had to be a alternative. I researched > other alternatives and decided to go with a new alternative called > prolotherapy. This dr. told her he didn't think she had fibro and tested > her for gluten intolerance, hormone in balance and thyroid. She test > positive for all these even though her other doctors had tested for these > they showed negative. Her doctor recommended the hcg diet in which he is > on, go on a gluten free diet, take thyroid medication, hormone medication > and prolotherapy injections in her knees which is extremely painful. > Started july 2011 and lost 68 pounds, no more fibro type pain, sleeping > really great and knees are not better but no pain as long as she don't > over do it. She still undergoing > prolo. But feels great. > > Just letting everyone know just in case of a misdiagnosis and hope it > helps someone. > Alan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 FDA says 500 calorie diet not healthy. ________________________________ From: MG <happytrails@...> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Re: gluten  {Moderator: Please trim posts.} It's not really 'banned'. It's always been a prescription drug (injectible version) so technically need to get it from a health care provider. But most people buy it online and have it imported which is really illegal. They got after the homeopathic companies for making 'unproven claims', so some of those versions no longer have the actual hcg in them, and won't work. the problem is you have to be on a 500 cal a day diet with it, if you ate normally you'd actually gain faster than you would if you were not taking it. marcia Re: Re: gluten Why is the HCG diet banned in USA if it works so well for fibro pain ? Deepak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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