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I know what a 'kicker' personality-- Since my son has always been sick, he

doesn't know the difference-- he is a charmer- his little 18 lb body- moves

and readjusts furniture wherever he goes--On Friday,PED re-vaccinated him

w/Prevnar to see it it takes(doubt it)-- PED put bandaids on his shot

sites-he took each off and threw them at the PEd, He then removed his socks

one by one and threw each at the PEd and picked up his heavy sneaker to

begin throwing those,too--He told the Ped he was 'fresh'-- God makes these

kids enjoyable to be with to offset all the time and work to try to keep

them well..

Gluten

I know so much about ingredients its scary. I have a bad habit of

saying " Do you know whats in that? " But only to my family and good

friends. Sara cant have any grains,milk products,protein,soy and the

list goen on and on. She

eats...pickles,cucumbers,peas,corn,pears,pineapple,oranges,rice and

these are natural the rice can be boiled but just plain. Maybe some

day they will be able to test her but for now it doesnt matter,she is

already on a gluten free diet and if she did have celiac she would

have to be on a gluten free diet so why add it when she clearly cant

tolerate it. Its all crazy. She was just diagnosed with

Hypothyroidism and has just started taking Synthroid. so thats just

another thing she has to deal with. She has chronic

sinusitis,alopecia areata,vitiligo,asthma,severe protein

intollerance,CVID, hypothyroidism,and a personality that would knock

your socks off!

Let us know what the test results are.

mom to Sara 4 and Casey 3 both CVID an so on...

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I know what a 'kicker' personality-- Since my son has always been sick, he

doesn't know the difference-- he is a charmer- his little 18 lb body- moves

and readjusts furniture wherever he goes--On Friday,PED re-vaccinated him

w/Prevnar to see it it takes(doubt it)-- PED put bandaids on his shot

sites-he took each off and threw them at the PEd, He then removed his socks

one by one and threw each at the PEd and picked up his heavy sneaker to

begin throwing those,too--He told the Ped he was 'fresh'-- God makes these

kids enjoyable to be with to offset all the time and work to try to keep

them well..

Gluten

I know so much about ingredients its scary. I have a bad habit of

saying " Do you know whats in that? " But only to my family and good

friends. Sara cant have any grains,milk products,protein,soy and the

list goen on and on. She

eats...pickles,cucumbers,peas,corn,pears,pineapple,oranges,rice and

these are natural the rice can be boiled but just plain. Maybe some

day they will be able to test her but for now it doesnt matter,she is

already on a gluten free diet and if she did have celiac she would

have to be on a gluten free diet so why add it when she clearly cant

tolerate it. Its all crazy. She was just diagnosed with

Hypothyroidism and has just started taking Synthroid. so thats just

another thing she has to deal with. She has chronic

sinusitis,alopecia areata,vitiligo,asthma,severe protein

intollerance,CVID, hypothyroidism,and a personality that would knock

your socks off!

Let us know what the test results are.

mom to Sara 4 and Casey 3 both CVID an so on...

This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a

Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the

sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional

advice.

To unsubscribe -unsubscribegroups (DOT)

To search group archives go to:

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The grain is messed up from sitting slightly damp in silos and railroad cars and

growing mold. Corn collects a mold which creates a poison called aflatoxin.

Hugh

GLUTEN

Hmmm, one has to wonder if there is something wrong with the grain these

days or is it the people? Bad breeding LOL??? In Bible days people

ate lots of grain with no problems. It has to be one or the other.

Or maybe it is that so many people have yeast overgrowth and that is

causing the intollerance and leaky guts. Our stores have an

overgrowth of starch and sugar products for sure!!! Steph

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Hi,

Wheat also used to be harvested differently. Gathered up into sheaves

and left to sit in the fields to be brought in. In the damp, cool

weather, the wheat would start to sprout, enzymatically digest and break

down the gluten structure. Wheat now has also been bred to have more

gluten for it's sticky, gluey properties, so useful in processed food.

So, not too long ago in the grand scheme of things, wheat had much less

gluten.

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On 1/21/2008, oxyplus (oxyplus ) wrote:

> In Bible days people ate lots of grain with no problems.

Really? Are you sure about that?

> It has to be one or the other.

Unproven premise...

Maybe they didn't eat a LOT... or maybe they mainly ate low-gluten

breads (like rye and barley)...

My suspicion is they didn't eat all that much bread, and what they did

eat was mostly sprouted...

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In Bible days they didn't stick the grains in silos for months at a time for

storage in a mold-encouraging atmosphere.

Hugh

Re: GLUTEN

On 1/21/2008, oxyplus@groups .com (oxyplus@groups .com) wrote:

> In Bible days people ate lots of grain with no problems.

Really? Are you sure about that?

> It has to be one or the other.

Unproven premise...

Maybe they didn't eat a LOT... or maybe they mainly ate low-gluten

breads (like rye and barley)...

My suspicion is they didn't eat all that much bread, and what they did

eat was mostly sprouted...

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> GLUTEN

>

>

> Hmmm, one has to wonder if there is something wrong with the grain

these

> days or is it the people? Bad breeding LOL??? In Bible days people

> ate lots of grain with no problems. It has to be one or the other.

> Or maybe it is that so many people have yeast overgrowth and that is

> causing the intollerance and leaky guts. Our stores have an

> overgrowth of starch and sugar products for sure!!! Steph

>

> HI Steph & all,

This is kind of interesting to me. I like to observe people and

their habits in how it relates to health issues.

Bible days it does seem grains were a staple. How much they ate is

really not disclosed but they often talked about eating a lot of fish

and bread is also mentioned, beef as well. Sugar was honey and dates

and raisins was a staple, too. A variety of foods are mentioned but

I am thinking it was probably a better quality than what we have

now. However, junk food was never mentioned. lol

I don't think it's so much about the food as in the quality of that

food. Regarding health issues, there is a comment in the Bible

telling to drink a 'little wine' for his stomache problems

and 'frequent infirminties'. I mention this because I think it is so

interesting as it goes along with the theory of illnesses starting in

the gut and the importance of good bacteria in the gut. Fermented

wine would be a good way to supply with this.

Gail

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>

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Gail, people with bad candida are already fermented LOL, so more

fermented wine would not be a good thing. All I have to drink is ONE

swallow and every blood vessel in my body feels like it is swelling up

and my leg muscles go to cramping so I can hardly walk. Weird I know,

but I am sure it because I am already pickled from the candida.

At this point I am pretty certain nothing is going to work short of

getting out of this climate unless I am able to do the stricktly meat

and vegitable diet which I have consistently failed at. I HATE meat

and can't digest it, and the vegitables do nothing for hunger and

starvation.

The cream of tartar helps keep it down a tad, but how long can I keep

eating that stuff without a major problem I wonder? It seems my

intestines are seriously swollen since I started taking it~~~so much so

it has pressed against my vaginal area to the point where I am swollen

shut 8:>[{ Most everything I take to kill the candida has a similar

effect on my intestines. I am guessing they are so full of holes from

the candida burrowing into them that everything bothers me. I am

thinking that is the cause of celiacs?

Steph

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Steph, Try the aloe vera for your intestines. It's not fermented. :)

Might help. gail

>

>

> Gail, people with bad candida are already fermented LOL, so more

> fermented wine would not be a good thing.

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I don't use milk, and I don't buy bread from the grocery store (with the

rare exception of Ezekiel muffins). Yes, I agree, labels can be tricky:

" made from whole wheat " does not mean that is is ALL whole wheat, sad to

say, but true. Companies will do what they can get away with.

I started making my own whole wheat bread over 20 years ago. I rarely make

it now, but do enjoy it, when I do.

I do agree that white flour is an awful thing. And white sugar, and

artificial sweeteners, and... ;)

Thia

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Cody <lecody2001@...> wrote:

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>

> Gluten is sticky stuff.... Casien is used in glue or used to be... so

> imagine whiteflour and casien together in your gut we call it elmers glue...

> ok don't know if that is valid or not, but wheat must be processed therefore

> we did not evolve to eat it... If you are sure you don't have any problems

> with it.. just make sure you do it whole grain or better yet sprouted and

> you can't even trust the ingredient list, cause they don't have to tell you

> how much whole grain is in a food.. so the safest thing to do is to cooked

> or sprout it yourself. I have a problem with both wheat and dairy so I am

> much better off staying away from it as much as possible.

>

> As for anything you eat... get it in the rawest state possible.. raw

> milk.... sprouted wheat ... etc... then you can cook it if you want or it

> needs to be in order to eat it.. And for those of you that believe in the

> garden of eden diet/senerio... they didn't eat wheat and I would bet my last

> dollar, they didn't take milk away from the mothers to drink for

> themselves...

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On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Thia .... <bipolyf@...> wrote:

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> I do agree that white flour is an awful thing.

And by that, I am NOT referring to the " white " whole wheat flour, but to the

stripped down, supposedly " enriched " flour typically used in most commercial

products.

Thia

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I am in agreement with the comment about the mother's milk--cow's milk is

intended for baby cows! Human milk is intended for baby humans. So what's up

with adults still drinking milk, especially that intended for an animal not

their own mother?!

As for whether or not wheat was eaten in the Garden of Eden, we can't know that

since we weren't there. However, I do recall that Jesus and his disciples (4

millennia later) walked in a field of wheat and ate some right off the stalk--so

why couldn't Adam and Eve have done the same?

Connie

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> >

> > grains - the main thing to avoid there is GLUTEN.

> > pseudograins like Amaranth, Quinoa, Backwheat and wildrice are Gluten free

> > and when sprouted are very nutritional.

> >

> >

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On 4/30/09, Connie Lacelle <groups@...> wrote:

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> As for whether or not wheat was eaten in the Garden of Eden,

> we can't know that since we weren't there. However, I do recall that Jesus and

his disciples (4 millennia later) walked in a field of wheat and ate some right

off the stalk--so why couldn't Adam and Eve have done the same?

According to many scholars, wheat didn't have large ears until the

advent of agriculture. Before that, it was a grass with a seed head

about like you will see in some of the grasses on your lawn when they

grow a seed head. It was selective planting that created the wheat we

know today. If these scholars are correct, wheat as we recognize it

wouldn't have been in the Garden of Eden. Though I don't see why Adam

and Eve might not have eaten the grass seeds . . . who knows? Surely

not I.

Sparrow

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Hey Connie,

I agree, with both comments. I have recently discovered that Cow's milk

really aggrevates my gut. I can drink Goat/s milk in moderation. I think

somewhere in the Bible it mentions drinking Goat's milk but I am not sure.

I actually use Goat's milk when baking bread and we have made homemade

icecream using goats milk and Agave Nectar. Delicious!!!!!

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Connie Lacelle <

groups@...> wrote:

>

>

> I am in agreement with the comment about the mother's milk--cow's milk is

> intended for baby cows! Human milk is intended for baby humans.

>

>

> I do recall that Jesus and his disciples (4 millennia later) walked in a

> field of wheat and ate some right off the stalk--so why couldn't Adam and

> Eve have done the same?

>

> Connie

> http://www.home-and-school-solutions.com

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Eve, You have the wrong person.

Sherry

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From: Eva Noble <ernoble@...>

Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 11:56:20 AM

Subject: Gluten

 

Hi Sherry,

Cheddar, walnut, spinach loaf made with spelt flour....... .that sounds

wonderful! I will have to try to make that soon. I will let you know how it

turns out.

Eve

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The gold standard test would be too eliminate wheat for a week or two. Then fast, dinner to dinner, on water only. Then eat seitan wheat gluten, available in asian markets. If there is a reaction, then one has a positive test. If negative, then there are other issues involved.Billions of rural asians have been eating whole grains for centuries. They are the healthiest, longest lived people on the planet. Compared to the 9 or so in the Nonceliac Gluten Intolerance study. Dr Medlin's link

http://www.wholegrainscouncil.org/whole-grains-101/health-studies-on-whole-grainsis full of published science.Alan D.C. From: dcdocbrian@...Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:33:00 -0700Subject: gluten

Just published. Seitz, DC Tuality Physicians 730-D SE Oak St Hillsboro, OR 97123 (503)640-3724Nonceliac Gluten Intolerance?Gluten caused gastrointestinal symptoms in some individuals without celiac disease.Many people without celiac disease actively follow gluten-free diets and insist that gluten produces symptoms. Some of these individuals believe that they have celiac disease, despite negative test results, and many cannot be adequately tested because they are following a gluten-free diet. Can gluten cause gastrointestinal symptoms in people without celiac disease, and — if so — by what mechanism? To answer these questions, researchers in Australia conducted a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled, dietary rechallenge trial involving individuals with irritable bowel syndrome who were proven not to have celiac disease and whose symptoms were under control on a gluten-free diet.Participants were recruited through advertisements. Proof that celiac disease was not present required either absence of the HLA-DQ2 and HLA-DQ8 haplotypes or a normal duodenal biopsy at endoscopy while the person was on a gluten-containing diet. Of the 39 individuals who met the inclusion criteria and were enrolled, 5 were excluded (4 because of inadequate symptom control during the 2-week baseline period and 1 because of acute psychiatric illness). All participants followed a gluten-free diet; in addition, they were asked to eat two slices of bread and one muffin daily (these foods contained gluten for the gluten group but were gluten free for the placebo group). Preliminary testing showed that the taste and texture of the gluten-free and gluten-containing products were identical.Nine participants stopped the study diet prematurely because of intolerable symptoms (6 in the gluten group after a median of 7 days and 3 in the placebo group after a median of 16 days). Poorly controlled symptoms were reported during more than half of the 6-week study period by more gluten-group participants than placebo-group participants (68% vs. 40%; P=0.001). During the entire study period, scores for pain, satisfaction with stool consistency, and tiredness were significantly worse in the gluten group than in the placebo group. Neither group showed significant changes in levels of fecal lactoferrin or celiac antibodies or in measures of intestinal permeability. Responses to gluten were similar between participants who had HLA-DQ2, HLA-DQ8, or both, and those who did not.Comment: Although this study does not identify a mechanism for nonceliac gluten intolerance, it provides the most convincing evidence yet for the existence of this condition. Certainly, getting tested for celiac disease before a gluten-free trial is still optimal, given the implications of a celiac diagnosis — including the necessity of strict adherence to a gluten-free diet, an increased cancer risk, and the need to screen family members.— K. Rex, MDPublished in Journal Watch Gastroenterology April 8, 2011CITATION(S):Biesiekierski JR et al. Gluten causes gastrointestinal symptoms in subjects without celiac disease: A double-blind randomized placebo-controlled trial. Am J Gastroenterol 2011 Mar; 106:508.Medline abstract (Free)

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My wife was diagnosed fibromyalgia 5 years ago. She went to doctors with her

health deteriorating, much weight gain, gall bladder removal and knee problems

that doctors recommended knee replacement saying all was fibro related. Being 42

I thought there had to be a alternative. I researched other alternatives and

decided to go with a new alternative called prolotherapy. This dr. told her he

didn't think she had fibro and tested her for gluten intolerance, hormone in

balance and thyroid. She test positive for all these even though her other

doctors had tested for these they showed negative. Her doctor recommended the

hcg diet in which he is on, go on a gluten free diet, take thyroid medication,

hormone medication and prolotherapy injections in her knees which is extremely

painful. Started july 2011 and lost 68 pounds, no more fibro type pain, sleeping

really great and knees are not better but no pain as long as she don't over do

it. She still undergoing

prolo. But feels great.

  Just letting everyone know just in case of a misdiagnosis and hope it helps

someone.

                                   Alan

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Good for you for looking further!!! I too lost 60 lbs on the HCG diet. Dr.

Teitlebaum has some posts referring the HCG helping with fibro pain. Have you

looked into LDN?? It is a big help for Fibro and other health issues.

God Bless,

Sara

>

> My wife was diagnosed fibromyalgia 5 years ago. She went to doctors with her

health deteriorating, much weight gain, gall bladder removal and knee problems

that doctors recommended knee replacement saying all was fibro related. Being 42

I thought there had to be a alternative. I researched other alternatives and

decided to go with a new alternative called prolotherapy. This dr. told her he

didn't think she had fibro and tested her for gluten intolerance, hormone in

balance and thyroid. She test positive for all these even though her other

doctors had tested for these they showed negative. Her doctor recommended the

hcg diet in which he is on, go on a gluten free diet, take thyroid medication,

hormone medication and prolotherapy injections in her knees which is extremely

painful. Started july 2011 and lost 68 pounds, no more fibro type pain, sleeping

really great and knees are not better but no pain as long as she don't over do

it. She still undergoing

> prolo. But feels great.

>

>   Just letting everyone know just in case of a misdiagnosis and hope it helps

someone.

>                                    Alan

>

>

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She did have fatigue and all the pressure points hurt like fibro. She would get

up each morning and could feel each vertebrae in her back. As far as the fibro

symptoms she is totally normal unless she gets a the smallest amount of

contamination. Even soap and shampoo has gluten.The gluten was damaging her

intestine to the point that there was no absorption of minerals. That is why the

weight gain. Her body was starving for the necessary nutrients so it was storing

the unnecessary fat. She is teacher and she has done so well the school system

ask her to put up a blog. I will post it soon as she gets it up. 

________________________________

From: Chardale Irvine <ch_irv@...>

" " < >

Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 11:38 PM

Subject: Re: gluten

 

I'm glad prolo worked for her. I had it for a year and saw no improvement. My

pain was not joint related though. I started taking savella then which helped

with the pain but not the fatigue at all. Did your wife have fatigue too? Has

that improved?

On May 18, 2012, at 4:35 PM, alan parker <pilotdad28645@...> wrote:

> My wife was diagnosed fibromyalgia 5 years ago. She went to doctors with her

health deteriorating, much weight gain, gall bladder removal and knee problems

that doctors recommended knee replacement saying all was fibro related. Being 42

I thought there had to be a alternative. I researched other alternatives and

decided to go with a new alternative called prolotherapy. This dr. told her he

didn't think she had fibro and tested her for gluten intolerance, hormone in

balance and thyroid. She test positive for all these even though her other

doctors had tested for these they showed negative. Her doctor recommended the

hcg diet in which he is on, go on a gluten free diet, take thyroid medication,

hormone medication and prolotherapy injections in her knees which is extremely

painful. Started july 2011 and lost 68 pounds, no more fibro type pain, sleeping

really great and knees are not better but no pain as long as she don't over do

it. She still undergoing

> prolo. But feels great.

>

> Just letting everyone know just in case of a misdiagnosis and hope it helps

someone.

> Alan

>

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Yes, since a week I have cut of grains and I feel better surely :).

Lesser pains and lesser bloating

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 10:24 AM, marti_zavala <marti_zavala@...>wrote:

> **

>

>

> Where did this start " HCG works well for fibro pain " ? Please provide links

> from PubMed or a reliable source (not a website selling it).

>

> HCG has nothing to do with relieving pain of any kind, period. HCG is the

> chemical in a pregnant woman's urine that changes the metabolism that

> protects the fetus from feast or famine effects.

>

> I lost 45 lbs on the diet and some days it was difficult to eat more 300

> calories and some days it was hard to stay at 500 calories. Basically, you

> are living off your own fat and the fresh food is providing your daily

> minerals.

>

> I also found, by accident, that my body LOVES the food that is approved on

> the diet. I also realized how badly my body feels with carbs and fat (I

> knew this already just not the extent).

>

> So, while I don't eat 500 calories, I still eat the foods on the approved

> list. I can digest them so much better.

>

> Perhaps people mean by staying off carbs/gluten, they have less muscle

> pain? Please let's clarify this or people are going to start ordering HCG

> to handle their pain. You can stay off carbs/gluten and feel better without

> taking HCG.

>

> Marti

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > My wife was diagnosed fibromyalgia 5 years ago. She went to doctors

> with

> > > > her health deteriorating, much weight gain, gall bladder removal and

> > > knee

> > > > problems that doctors recommended knee replacement saying all was

> fibro

> > > > related. Being 42 I thought there had to be a alternative. I

> researched

> > > > other alternatives and decided to go with a new alternative called

> > > > prolotherapy. This dr. told her he didn't think she had fibro and

> tested

> > > > her for gluten intolerance, hormone in balance and thyroid. She test

> > > > positive for all these even though her other doctors had tested for

> > > these

> > > > they showed negative. Her doctor recommended the hcg diet in which

> he is

> > > > on, go on a gluten free diet, take thyroid medication, hormone

> > > medication

> > > > and prolotherapy injections in her knees which is extremely painful.

> > > > Started july 2011 and lost 68 pounds, no more fibro type pain,

> sleeping

> > > > really great and knees are not better but no pain as long as she

> don't

> > > > over do it. She still undergoing

> > > > prolo. But feels great.

> > > >

> > > > Just letting everyone know just in case of a misdiagnosis and hope it

> > > > helps someone.

> > > > Alan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Its just my own experience and the experience of many many others with fibro

on hcg chat groups of dieters, I interracted with them a lot over the last

year of dieting. I'm not aware this has ever been studied, it's strictly

people's experience.

marcia

Re: gluten

Where did this start " HCG works well for fibro pain " ? Please provide links

from PubMed or a reliable source (not a website selling it).

HCG has nothing to do with relieving pain of any kind, period. HCG is the

chemical in a pregnant woman's urine that changes the metabolism that

protects the fetus from feast or famine effects.

I lost 45 lbs on the diet and some days it was difficult to eat more 300

calories and some days it was hard to stay at 500 calories. Basically, you

are living off your own fat and the fresh food is providing your daily

minerals.

I also found, by accident, that my body LOVES the food that is approved on

the diet. I also realized how badly my body feels with carbs and fat (I

knew this already just not the extent).

So, while I don't eat 500 calories, I still eat the foods on the approved

list. I can digest them so much better.

Perhaps people mean by staying off carbs/gluten, they have less muscle pain?

Please let's clarify this or people are going to start ordering HCG to

handle their pain. You can stay off carbs/gluten and feel better without

taking HCG.

Marti

> > >

> > > My wife was diagnosed fibromyalgia 5 years ago. She went to doctors

> > > with

> > > her health deteriorating, much weight gain, gall bladder removal and

> > knee

> > > problems that doctors recommended knee replacement saying all was

> > > fibro

> > > related. Being 42 I thought there had to be a alternative. I

> > > researched

> > > other alternatives and decided to go with a new alternative called

> > > prolotherapy. This dr. told her he didn't think she had fibro and

> > > tested

> > > her for gluten intolerance, hormone in balance and thyroid. She test

> > > positive for all these even though her other doctors had tested for

> > these

> > > they showed negative. Her doctor recommended the hcg diet in which he

> > > is

> > > on, go on a gluten free diet, take thyroid medication, hormone

> > medication

> > > and prolotherapy injections in her knees which is extremely painful.

> > > Started july 2011 and lost 68 pounds, no more fibro type pain,

> > > sleeping

> > > really great and knees are not better but no pain as long as she don't

> > > over do it. She still undergoing

> > > prolo. But feels great.

> > >

> > > Just letting everyone know just in case of a misdiagnosis and hope it

> > > helps someone.

> > > Alan

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Bravo for your wife to have found a good doctor. My pain decreased 85% when

I found out I was gluten intolerant and stopped eating gluten. Now if I

could just get rid of this damn fatigue!

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Maybe the food your eating is what's causing fibro.

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From: MG <happytrails@...>

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:23 PM

Subject: Re: Re: gluten

 

I also lost 64 lbs on the hcg diet and felt great while on the hcg, but

after the diet ended, the pain ALL came back and it's really hard not to let

the weight come back as well. I always felt there was really something to

the fact that all the fibro patients felt so well while taking even the

homeopathic hcg. I wish the results lasted. But I wonder what the

connection is.

Marcia

Re: gluten

Good for you for looking further!!! I too lost 60 lbs on the HCG diet.

Dr. Teitlebaum has some posts referring the HCG helping with fibro pain.

Have you looked into LDN?? It is a big help for Fibro and other health

issues.

God Bless,

Sara

>

> My wife was diagnosed fibromyalgia 5 years ago. She went to doctors with

> her health deteriorating, much weight gain, gall bladder removal and knee

> problems that doctors recommended knee replacement saying all was fibro

> related. Being 42 I thought there had to be a alternative. I researched

> other alternatives and decided to go with a new alternative called

> prolotherapy. This dr. told her he didn't think she had fibro and tested

> her for gluten intolerance, hormone in balance and thyroid. She test

> positive for all these even though her other doctors had tested for these

> they showed negative. Her doctor recommended the hcg diet in which he is

> on, go on a gluten free diet, take thyroid medication, hormone medication

> and prolotherapy injections in her knees which is extremely painful.

> Started july 2011 and lost 68 pounds, no more fibro type pain, sleeping

> really great and knees are not better but no pain as long as she don't

> over do it. She still undergoing

> prolo. But feels great.

>

> Just letting everyone know just in case of a misdiagnosis and hope it

> helps someone.

> Alan

>

>

>

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FDA says 500 calorie diet not healthy.

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From: MG <happytrails@...>

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:42 AM

Subject: Re: Re: gluten

 

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It's not really 'banned'. It's always been a prescription drug (injectible

version) so technically need to get it from a health care provider. But most

people buy it online and have it imported which is really illegal. They got

after the homeopathic companies for making 'unproven claims', so some of

those versions no longer have the actual hcg in them, and won't work.

the problem is you have to be on a 500 cal a day diet with it, if you ate

normally you'd actually gain faster than you would if you were not taking

it.

marcia

Re: Re: gluten

Why is the HCG diet banned in USA if it works so well for fibro pain ?

Deepak

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