Re: Alcohol and tintures....

[Guest guest]

Dear Ken

From past experience, my alcohol intolerance was beer related but not

whiskey related. It has eased off to the point where I can drink some beers

but none from one Australian brewer. From this I reason that it's likely to

be a chemical sensitivity to one non-essential ingredient. I'm also

intolerant of red wines (can have a mouthful but no more) but can drink port

which is a fortified red wine (histamines?)

I am at present using a topical alcohol based medication. The evaporating

alcohol fumes leave me breathless for a couple of minutes but have no

long-lasting effect so I suspect that it is not the ethanol as such that

does the damage.

I haven't frequented bars for 40 years or more , however recently, I had the

misfortune to go into a bar, the smell of stale beer was revolting but

otherwise did me no apparent harm

Regards

R

(in Oz)

Alcohol and tintures....

>I observed that some CFS cannot be in the same room as an open beer or a

>glass of whiskey, etc. I am speculating that alcohol intolerance may be

>in some, aroma intolerance (MCS); especially if the person is gluten

>sensitive and the alcohol is whiskey or beer.

>

> I am also aware that some CFSers take tinctures

> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tincture) which uses pure distilled alcohol.

>

>

[Guest guest]

i recently took a tincture with alcohol for a cough and heated it the required

time to get the alcohol out of it. it made me drunk. i also feel weird, kind of

sick to my stomach if food is cooked in wine.

>

> I observed that some CFS cannot be in the same room as an open beer or a glass

of whiskey, etc. I am speculating that alcohol intolerance may be in some,

aroma intolerance (MCS); especially if the person is gluten sensitive and the

alcohol is whiskey or beer.

>

> I am also aware that some CFSers take tinctures

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tincture) which uses pure distilled alcohol.

>

> This is why I am trying to identify if there is a subset and their symptoms.

It's significant because items like mastic, myrrh, and frankincense (boswellia)

are traditionally done as tinctures to promote absorbency.

>

> So for alcohol question it would be distilled pure alcohol + optional

flavoring, i.e. Vodka, Ouzo (which has mastic gum), Snapps, Gin. but not cognac

or whiskey.

>

[Guest guest]

It has been a long time since I've had much alchohol, maybe an aniversary 15

years ago or so. I've had a sip or two of beer without any noticeable effects

since then. But your question reminded me that I've been told that I have

hypoglycemia now and one is not supposed to have any alcohol with that. That

made me look at the tinctures that I take since I have been taking a lot more of

them lately for anxiety. One of them is 50% alcohol, the rest being water and

glycerine. The other is 70% water, 15% alcohol and 15% glycerine. It would

probably be good for me to double check with my acupuncturist about this but

those levels are probably low enough. I did make a point of getting my stevia

without alcohol the last time I got the liquid form.

Beverly H

I observed that some CFS cannot be in the same room as an open beer or a glass

of whiskey, etc. I am speculating that alcohol intolerance may be in some, aroma

intolerance (MCS); especially if the person is gluten sensitive and the alcohol

is whiskey or beer.

I am also aware that some CFSers take tinctures

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tincture) which uses pure distilled alcohol.

This is why I am trying to identify if there is a subset and their symptoms.

It's significant because items like mastic, myrrh, and frankincense (boswellia)

are traditionally done as tinctures to promote absorbency.

So for alcohol question it would be distilled pure alcohol + optional

flavoring, i.e. Vodka, Ouzo (which has mastic gum), Snapps, Gin. but not cognac

or whiskey.

[Guest guest]

Does anyone else get high tachycardia when

they drink alcohol? I have not touched it since

2002. After a few times of a few sips of beer or wine,

landed me in ER, I decided to avoid.

Could it be some of the CYPs in the liver or digestive

system are dysfunctional?

kookie

>

> i recently took a tincture with alcohol for a cough and heated it the required

time to get the alcohol out of it. it made me drunk. i also feel weird, kind of

sick to my stomach if food is cooked in wine.

>

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[Guest guest]

I'm not sure how to trim a post, so hope all the other alcohol posts don't show

up below this.

Raised by 2 feral drunks for parents, I decided before trying a drop I'd never

become them. My limit on the rare occasion I drink- 4x a yearish- is one beer, 2

at most. That's small bottle, light, organic. Wine is generally too harsh, &

white makes me want to puke. Had a " Summer Shandy " - likely nonorganic- out of a

big tin can on a lark this week to no ill. In fact, I didn't feel it at all.

Whether this sensitivity's due to phys reasons or psychological, I can't know. I

believe I willed myself into an allergy, which is fine by me. Never has issues w

tinctures but I can feel the alcohol slightly. I used alcohol wipes, etc. w no

prob.

What I for one AM sensitive to is noise, lights, textures, temps, air quality,

senses I get off people walking by, colors, things people unwittingly or

wittingly say. Violence in any form. Animals love me. When I do less sugar

(hello, Reeces?), I get the heart pounding thing with a bite of choco. I sleep

with 4 fans, block all light, & use a string light for ambient. Get overwhelmed

by more than a little time with people & parties I've avoided most of my life.

Real career fauz paux. As a college teacher over a decade, I can't imagine now

how I did it just 2 years back; 50 people in a room is 100 eyes on you, much

less the indiv. energies you get off each person. Yes, my " sensitivity " drives

me bug**** insane & seems to deepen over the years.

I also have PTSD via childhood abuse & et al., & just began MINIPRESS, a

sleeping pill that's guar. to knock out nightmares (several a week since

forever). 1st night on it had one of the worst in 50 years. But hey, it was

creative. Any med I 1/4 it & see what happens. Also been a vegetarian since

1978, which, shortly after becoming, increased sensitivity severalfold. Just

began liver-bovine-who-knows-what for adrenals & had hoped it'd have a pos.

impact on crying at anything bc I'm oh sooo sensitive. Last thing I'll say is I

had bad headaches thru 20'sish until I accessed my anger--- & stopped *crying*

if I got angry & expressed anger instead. Relief.

As I had a setback, I can't keep up with these digests. If anyone did email me

or reply & need an answer, pls. just email me again. Apologies.

Be weller,

CL