Re: sinking feeling in chest - anyone ?

[Guest guest]

I get the feeling occasionally. I take Inderal also plus Ativan. However, I also

get panic attacks.

From: deepak0625@...

Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 10:13:38 +0530

Subject: sinking feeling in chest - anyone ?

Does anyone get this sudden weird feeling in chest - like one gets when

say one is on a roller coaster - almost like heart is in mouth - a sinking

kind feeling in the center of chest

[Guest guest]

Hi Deepak, I'm not sure if mine is exactly as you describe but I do have odd

sensations that feel like they are blood pressure related. Like pressure in mt

throat, head or chest. Sometimes all three together. I check my blood pressure.

It is always normal. Heart rate a little elevated- in the 90s. Oxygen saturation

normal. It has been dx as anxiety which I don't buy. I know what my anxiety

feels like. This isn't it.

My evolving theory is that is could be related to two things: diastolic

cardiomyopathy (dr cheney) caused by varying blood viscosity caused by

protomyxzoa. This is a total theory. I have not been tested for either but I

have started the ultra lowest diet. I have contacted the univ of Florida

cardiology dept and ordered the test kit from Fry Labs.

Peace be with you and all that jazz.

Chardale

On Jun 24, 2012, at 12:43 AM, Deepak L <deepak0625@...> wrote:

> Does anyone get this sudden weird feeling in chest - like one gets when

> say one is on a roller coaster - almost like heart is in mouth - a sinking

> kind feeling in the center of chest

>

> I think after this happens I feel like swallowing -

>

> It been happening on and off ocassionally -

>

> got an ecg and echo done - those are normal......except a heart rate of 107

> which doc said could be due to anxiety and prescribed beta blockers

>

> Love,

>

> Deepak

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, for me this has always been a symptom of adrenal crashes. Here are all my

symptoms when my adrenals are not responding properly:

Most severe is I feel like tanks are attached to my limbs and I can't even lift

my head. This used to last for hours. Also accompanied by palpitations. At very

worst it felt like an elephant was sitting on my chest.

Sinking feeling in chest, very tired feeling anxious as well.

Palpitations and exhausted but can move and limbs are not as heavy.

General fatigue that comes on suddenly.

I take hydrocortisone now and do other things to manage stress, but since I'm

not taking a reading on my adrenals all the time, they do still get the best of

me (during menstrual cycles or when I'm exposed to too many glutamates or

sulfurs).

I hope that helps.

 

Kaimowitz

Script Supervisor & Instructor 

917-622-4460

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From: Deepak L <deepak0625@...>

Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:43 AM

Subject: sinking feeling in chest - anyone ?

 

Does anyone get this sudden weird feeling in chest - like one gets when

say one is on a roller coaster - almost like heart is in mouth - a sinking

kind feeling in the center of chest

I think after this happens I feel like swallowing -

It been happening on and off ocassionally -

got an ecg and echo done - those are normal......except a heart rate of 107

which doc said could be due to anxiety and prescribed beta blockers

Love,

Deepak

[Guest guest]

Dear Chardale,

Someone pointed it could be adrenals.

I am checking that out now - check something called " adrenal dump "

Btw, I am also thinking of doing Fry test - how much has it cost you ? I

am not sure if there is diastolic test in India,

Love and all that jazz haha

Deepak

[Guest guest]

On 6/24/2012 12:43 AM, Deepak L wrote:

> Does anyone get this sudden weird feeling in chest - like one gets when

> say one is on a roller coaster - almost like heart is in mouth - a sinking

> kind feeling in the center of chest

I get something sort of like that when my blood pressure drops. I have

neurocardiogenic syndrome, also known as orthostatic

hypotension/orthostatic intolerance. Have you had a proper tilt table

test? It has to follow the s Hopkins Protocol or it will be

inconclusive.

A simple way to check for it is to lie down for five minutes, take your

blood pressure. Quickly sit up, take blood pressure and then quickly

stand up and take blood pressure. If it plummets and your heart rate

rises, you probably have it. Any doctor can do this, but not every

doctor will know about this.

> got an ecg and echo done - those are normal......except a heart rate of 107

> which doc said could be due to anxiety and prescribed beta blockers

These tests will not indicate the above condition, which is quite common

in CFIDS.

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When I was at my accupuncturists last week he was concerned about my erratic

heart beat and asked me a bunch of questions to rule out something more serious.

One of the questions was about a caved in feeling in the chest. I dont know if

caved in is the same as sinking but thought I'd pass it along. My heart beat

returned to almost normal by the end of the session so he didnt insist that I go

get checked out. This has happened several times before since I started having

panic attacks. I did go get a heart check up when it first started so I am not

worried about that really. I do get chest tightness as part of the panic

attacks.

I read Dr. Bruno's book on post-polio recently and was surprised that panic

attacks were part of that syndrome. Also I have been researching hypoglycemia as

I was recently diagnosed with that and anxiety/panic attacks are a symptom of

that too. I'm still trying to sort out what symptoms came from that and what was

psychological. Our stress intolerance and hypoadrenalism contributes to both

aspects for me.

Beverly H

sinking feeling in chest - anyone ?

Does anyone get this sudden weird feeling in chest - like one gets when

say one is on a roller coaster - almost like heart is in mouth - a sinking

kind feeling in the center of chest

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Hi there,

This sounds likes dysautonomia to me - there are different forms but it is a

malfunction in the autonomic system.

Orthostatic intolerance, orthostatic hypotension and Postural Orthostatic

Tachychardia Syndrome are all related disorders of dysautonomia.

www.dinet.org

There is medication, lifestyle changes (increased sea salt, increased water,

electrolytes, staying out of heat, gentle seated exercise, etc).

HTH,

Marti

>

> Does anyone get this sudden weird feeling in chest - like one gets when

> say one is on a roller coaster - almost like heart is in mouth - a sinking

> kind feeling in the center of chest

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On 6/24/2012 2:29 PM, Beverly wrote:

> When I was at my accupuncturists last week he was concerned about my erratic

heart beat and asked me a bunch of questions to rule out something more serious.

One of the questions was about a caved in feeling in the chest. I dont know if

caved in is the same as sinking but thought I'd pass it along. My heart beat

returned to almost normal by the end of the session so he didnt insist that I go

get checked out. This has happened several times before since I started having

panic attacks. I did go get a heart check up when it first started so I am not

worried about that really. I do get chest tightness as part of the panic

attacks.

Neurocardiogenic syndrome can give one the impression they're having a

panic attack, and many people are misdiagnosed as having panic attacks.

For a decade I thought that's what I had until I was properly

diagnosed. I suffered all that time for nothing.

Jeri <teewinot13@...>

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[Guest guest]

hi Beverly,

Yes I would say its a " caved in " feeling,

Did he say what that was ?

Love,

deepak

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I got the impression that if I had the " caved in " feeling he would have sent me

to get my heart checked out. He didnt say what it was. I think they are not

allowed to make a western medicine diagnosis. But they can say that they are

uncomfortable and send you in to get checked out. Like once he said it was time

to go get antibiotics.

Beverly

hi Beverly,

Yes I would say its a " caved in " feeling,

Did he say what that was ?

Love,

deepak

[Guest guest]

What is neurocardiogenic syndrome? I know I have a messed up nervous system and

the vagus nerve is particularly wacked out. My " panic attacks " occur after

eating breakfast and when they are at their worst I throw up 1/2 to 1 1/2 hours

after eating. I was suspecting that eating too much sugar was a contributing

factor and that it was more likely to happen if I was run down. But it was also

clearly related to specific psychological triggers at times. It is the weirdist

thing to deal with because I could go for months without it happening and then

have multiple incidents in a week. Now I have been diagnosed with hypoglycemia.

But I do have a slightly irregular heatbeat at times, they called it premature

something or other.

Beverly

On 6/24/2012 2:29 PM, Beverly wrote:

> When I was at my accupuncturists last week he was concerned about my erratic

heart beat and asked me a bunch of questions to rule out something more serious.

One of the questions was about a caved in feeling in the chest. I dont know if

caved in is the same as sinking but thought I'd pass it along. My heart beat

returned to almost normal by the end of the session so he didnt insist that I go

get checked out. This has happened several times before since I started having

panic attacks. I did go get a heart check up when it first started so I am not

worried about that really. I do get chest tightness as part of the panic

attacks.

Neurocardiogenic syndrome can give one the impression they're having a

panic attack, and many people are misdiagnosed as having panic attacks.

For a decade I thought that's what I had until I was properly

diagnosed. I suffered all that time for nothing.

[Guest guest]

Re garding panc attacks, I was told many years ago by a psychologists, that

panic attacks often have their triggers in biological sensations. The most

common one is irregular heartbeats that are benign in themselves, but are very

uncomfortable to experience. Another one is muscle spasms of GI tract

or chest wall.