Guest guest Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 I made an interesting discovery. Firstly, I have had acid reflux my whole life. So much so, that I didn't even realize I had it until it got so bad that I couldn't function and the symptoms were unrecognizable to my doctor. The symptoms are burning in the throat, terrible neck pain and the same burning pain in my low back near the colon. Once I realized what these painful symptoms I had were, I also connected with WHEN I have them. I have them after I eat, (sometimes), when I wake up in the morning and after a bowel movement, but I also realized that I have the same symptoms from taking any B6, B12 or any detox that pushes too hard - for instance, I can take B6 for a day or two, or milk thistle for a day or two, but then the burning starts. Does anyone have any insight or theories as to what the connection would be? I would love to be able to figure it out so that I could take B6 and some liver detox, which I need so badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Hi, . In my experience GERD in ME/CFS is usually caused by insufficient stomach acid, rather than too much. I realize that this seems paradoxical, but it is apparently caused by the pyloric sphincter (at the bottom of the stomach) not opening when it should, because of insufficient stomach acid. The food mixture then moves up through the gastroesophageal sphincter, into the esophagus, and causes the burning sensation. If you have had GERD all your life, you might want to have a gastroenterologist take a look at your esophagus with an endoscope, to see what its condition is. There is something called Barrett's esophagus that can develop under these conditions. Unfortunately, there is also the possibility of esophageal cancer with continued exposure to GERD, so it's a good idea to have this checked out. There is a do-it-yourself test you can run for stomach acid. On an empty stomach, such as first thing in the morning, drink an 8-ounce glass of water into which you have mixed one-quarter teaspoon of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate). Time how long it takes you to burp. If you haven't burped within 2 minutes, you have low stomach acid. Some people take betaine-HCl pills with each meal to raise their stomach acid if it is low. The procedure is to take one with the first meal, then take two with the second meal, etc., until you feel a warm feeling in your stomach. Then back off one pill, and use that dosage with each meal. Other people use the dilute hydrochloric acid solution supplied by Allergy Research Group. It's also possible to use lemon juice, but important to use a drinking straw and to flush the teeth with water afterward to prevent chelation of calcium from the enamel on the teeth by citric acid. The lemon juice also has the benefit of alkalinizing the urine (also paradoxical, but due to the fact that the citrate is metabolized, leaving minerals that are base-formers), and this helps to detox toxins that are in the chemical form of weak acids, of which there are many. I'm not sure why taking B12 or B6 or attempting to detox causes the GERD to get worse, but the above should help to relieve it if it is caused by insufficient stomach acid. Best regards, Rich > > I made an interesting discovery. Firstly, I have had acid reflux my whole life. So much so, that I didn't even realize I had it until it got so bad that I couldn't function and the symptoms were unrecognizable to my doctor. The symptoms are burning in the throat, terrible neck pain and the same burning pain in my low back near the colon. > > Once I realized what these painful symptoms I had were, I also connected with WHEN I have them. I have them after I eat, (sometimes), when I wake up in the morning and after a bowel movement, but I also realized that I have the same symptoms from taking any B6, B12 or any detox that pushes too hard - for instance, I can take B6 for a day or two, or milk thistle for a day or two, but then the burning starts. > > Does anyone have any insight or theories as to what the connection would be? I would love to be able to figure it out so that I could take B6 and some liver detox, which I need so badly. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 hi , mine is a little different but some similarities. I was getting nauseous and having gut pain after eating and having heartburn. I did two things that are handling it. The nausea is caused by leaky gut syndrome which I treat by taking bovine colostrum and a good quality refrigerated probiotic. I just found I have dairy allergy so will be switching to goat colostrum. For the heartburn I take 50 mg of Prilosec twice a day. It takes about 6 weeks for the colostrum/probiotics to get the guy situation settled if I stop taking them for awhile. I had terrible IBS before and don't have any issues at all if I stay on it. Synertek is the brand if bovine colostrum and I use Jarrow probiotic. I'll be getting Capra goat colostrum now. Peace be with you and all that jazz, Chardale Irvine On Jul 20, 2012, at > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 What is the difference between taking powder colostrum and fresh colostrum from organic grass fed cows? Temped to try... Kookie > > hi , mine is a little different but some similarities. I was getting nauseous and having gut pain after eating and having heartburn. I did two things that are handling it. The nausea is caused by leaky gut syndrome which I treat by taking bovine colostrum and a good quality refrigerated probiotic. I just found I have dairy allergy so will be switching to goat colostrum. For the heartburn I take 50 mg of Prilosec twice a day. It takes about 6 weeks for the colostrum/probiotics to get the guy situation settled if I stop taking them for awhile. I had terrible IBS before and don't have any issues at all if I stay on it. Synertek is the brand if bovine colostrum and I use Jarrow probiotic. I'll be getting Capra goat colostrum now. > > Peace be with you and all that jazz, > > Chardale Irvine > > On Jul 20, 2012, at > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Do you have a source for the fresh colostrum? I think the only issue with it is availability. Chardale Irvine On Jul 20, 2012, at 2:36 PM, " furstc0404 " <furstc0404@...> wrote: > > > What is the difference between taking powder colostrum > and fresh colostrum from organic grass fed cows? > > Temped to try... > > Kookie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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