Re: One in six US high school students has asthma

[Guest guest]

That's a completely unacceptable number.

No one can tell me that this is not environmental or strictly from car

exhausted.

Indoor air levels / pollutants are worse than outside. In my opinion, this

asthma epidemic is caused sorely by cheap building materials that harbor and

CAUSE bacteria, mold, smut, dust etc to proliferate.

This makes me so mad I am steaming right now. All of us on this board have

had breathing issues from mold and it is hell to go through.

Angelika

[] One in six US high school students has asthma

One in six US high school students has asthma-study By Simao

2 hours, 55 minutes ago

http://news./news?

tmpl=story & u=/nm/20050811/hl_nm/asthma_dc_3

8-11-05

ATLANTA (Reuters) - One out of every six U.S. high school students

suffers from asthma and more than one-third of those report having

an attack in the previous year, according to a federal study

released on Thursday that suggests schools do more to manage the

potentially fatal lung disease.

Asthma, which is marked by breathing difficulties, coughing and

inflammation of the airways, disproportionately affects children and

adolescents. In some states, it is the leading cause of absenteeism

in schools.

In 2003, an estimated 16.1 percent of those enrolled in grades 9

through 12 said they were suffering from the disease, according to a

survey of more than 13,000 students by the Centers for Disease

Control and Prevention.

Nearly 38 percent reported an asthma attack or episode in the 12

months before the survey, the CDC said.

The current rate of asthma reported by the students was about double

that found in a separate 2003 federal study that polled parents. CDC

researchers said more research was needed to explain the factors

behind the discrepancy.

The Atlanta-based agency, however, urged educators to develop plans

to deal with students' asthma, which can be triggered by exposure to

certain allergens commonly found in schools, such as chalk dust,

mold, and cleaning products.

Teen smoking and exposure to diesel fuel from school buses also may

contribute to attacks in classrooms.

" Schools can help improve asthma management among students whose

asthma is not well-controlled by providing health services,

education and control of environmental triggers, " the CDC said in a

weekly health report.

The CDC published its study amid growing debate over the scope of

asthma in the nation. Although overall cases of the disease rose 75

percent between 1980 and 1998, there are signs that the disease has

stabilized since then.

FAIR USE NOTICE:

[Guest guest]

I participated in the Asthma walk, awareness day here in VA, as the

American Lung Ass is making asthma #1 on its agenda, and has

promised to go after it with fervor. At the kick off meeting, which

was every doctor in the area and me, I spoke out for finding out

what enviromental factors are leading to this, and got the docs to

admitt that enviromental toxins are responsible for the rise, but

their entire object is to medicate, medicate- being docs, that is

all they think they can do. They site the incredible statistical

rise in people who drop dead within 24 hrs of seeing a doc for the

asthma as a failure of the health care system to medicate fully and

explain medication- Seeing that meds never helped me much- the only

thing that helps my breathing is avoidence of our old friend mold- I

think it will only be a matter of time before a light bulb turns on

over their heads. Please, those who have the strength , go to these

Lung Ass meetings and tell your stories- they give us an opportunity

to speak to a captive audience of Doctors. Maybe someone will listen

> That's a completely unacceptable number.

> No one can tell me that this is not environmental or strictly from

car

> exhausted.

> Indoor air levels / pollutants are worse than outside. In my

opinion, this

> asthma epidemic is caused sorely by cheap building materials that

harbor and

> CAUSE bacteria, mold, smut, dust etc to proliferate.

> This makes me so mad I am steaming right now. All of us on this

board have

> had breathing issues from mold and it is hell to go through.

>

> Angelika

>

> [] One in six US high school students has

asthma

>

>

> One in six US high school students has asthma-study By Simao

> 2 hours, 55 minutes ago

>

> http://news./news?

> tmpl=story & u=/nm/20050811/hl_nm/asthma_dc_3

>

> 8-11-05

>

> ATLANTA (Reuters) - One out of every six U.S. high school students

> suffers from asthma and more than one-third of those report having

> an attack in the previous year, according to a federal study

> released on Thursday that suggests schools do more to manage the

> potentially fatal lung disease.

>

>

>

> Asthma, which is marked by breathing difficulties, coughing and

> inflammation of the airways, disproportionately affects children

and

> adolescents. In some states, it is the leading cause of absenteeism

> in schools.

>

> In 2003, an estimated 16.1 percent of those enrolled in grades 9

> through 12 said they were suffering from the disease, according to

a

> survey of more than 13,000 students by the Centers for Disease

> Control and Prevention.

>

> Nearly 38 percent reported an asthma attack or episode in the 12

> months before the survey, the CDC said.

>

> The current rate of asthma reported by the students was about

double

> that found in a separate 2003 federal study that polled parents.

CDC

> researchers said more research was needed to explain the factors

> behind the discrepancy.

>

> The Atlanta-based agency, however, urged educators to develop plans

> to deal with students' asthma, which can be triggered by exposure

to

> certain allergens commonly found in schools, such as chalk dust,

> mold, and cleaning products.

>

> Teen smoking and exposure to diesel fuel from school buses also may

> contribute to attacks in classrooms.

>

> " Schools can help improve asthma management among students whose

> asthma is not well-controlled by providing health services,

> education and control of environmental triggers, " the CDC said in a

> weekly health report.

>

> The CDC published its study amid growing debate over the scope of

> asthma in the nation. Although overall cases of the disease rose 75

> percent between 1980 and 1998, there are signs that the disease has

> stabilized since then.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Do you know where I can find this statistic?

>They site the incredible statistical rise in people

> who drop dead within 24 hrs of seeing a doc for the asthma...

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

[Guest guest]

No, A couple of Drs at the meeting brought it up

--- In , " Carl E. Grimes " <grimes@h...>

wrote:

> ,

>

> Do you know where I can find this statistic?

>

> >They site the incredible statistical rise in people

> > who drop dead within 24 hrs of seeing a doc for the asthma...

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

[Guest guest]

Group,

Any of you want to see if you can search for this? It would help us

all if we had a citation.

>They (doctors) site the incredible statistical rise in people who

>drop dead within 24 hrs of seeing a doc for the asthma.

Carl Grimes

Healthfy Habitats LLC

-----

> No, A couple of Drs at the meeting brought it up

>

> > , > > Do you know where I can find this statistic? > >

> >They site the incredible statistical rise in people > > who drop dead

> within 24 hrs of seeing a doc for the asthma... > > Carl Grimes >

> Healthy Habitats LLC

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/12/2005 12:27:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,

grimes@... writes:

Group,

Any of you want to see if you can search for this? It would help us

all if we had a citation.

>They (doctors) site the incredible statistical rise in people who

>drop dead within 24 hrs of seeing a doc for the asthma.

Carl Grimes

Healthfy Habitats LLC

Hey Carl,

I don't understand your post. Are you saying there is a study that shows

the number of people who drop dead within 24 hrs of being seen for asthma? Or

you are looking for that study?

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

It's based on the post of Aug 12 by " carondeen "

<kdeanstudios@...> where said some doctors at an ALA

meeting were citing those numbers. I wondered where they got it. So

there is no more confusion, her post is as follows:

I participated in the Asthma walk, awareness day here in VA, as the

American Lung Ass is making asthma #1 on its agenda, and has

promised to go after it with fervor. At the kick off meeting, which

was every doctor in the area and me, I spoke out for finding out

what enviromental factors are leading to this, and got the docs to

admitt that enviromental toxins are responsible for the rise, but

their entire object is to medicate, medicate- being docs, that is

all they think they can do. They site the incredible statistical

rise in people who drop dead within 24 hrs of seeing a doc for the

asthma as a failure of the health care system to medicate fully and

explain medication- Seeing that meds never helped me much- the only

thing that helps my breathing is avoidence of our old friend mold- I

think it will only be a matter of time before a light bulb turns on

over their heads. Please, those who have the strength , go to these

Lung Ass meetings and tell your stories- they give us an opportunity

to speak to a captive audience of Doctors. Maybe someone will listen

-------------

> In a message dated 8/12/2005 12:27:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> grimes@... writes:

>

> Group,

>

> Any of you want to see if you can search for this? It would help us

> all if we had a citation.

>

> >They (doctors) site the incredible statistical rise in people who

> >drop dead within 24 hrs of seeing a doc for the asthma.

>

> Carl Grimes

> Healthfy Habitats LLC

>

>

>

>

> Hey Carl,

>

> I don't understand your post. Are you saying there is a study that

> shows the number of people who drop dead within 24 hrs of being seen

> for asthma? Or you are looking for that study?

>

> Sharon

[Guest guest]

Ya know there is a WHOLE LOT of double talk going on here. They need to

define what " asthma " means today. Does mycotoxicosis and hypersenstivity

pneumonitis now fall under the term " asthma " ? One can't find the statistics

for HP

anymore on the NORMS website.

In England, they are finding that antifungals are being used effectively to

treat " asthma " and opposed to all those useless and dangerous antibiotics and

steriods they prescribe for- and here's a new one for you, Fungal Asthma

(FA). But here in the US, the FDA has not approved antifungals for such

purposes. NOT EVEN GONNA LOOK AT IT! Why? Because to acknowledge we are sick

with

FA, would increase the financial liability for whoever owns, sells, builds,

maintains or insures the structure that is responsible for FA.

The American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology has a huge meeting

coming up in Nov in LA. On Nov 9th, a group of them are giving a presentation

on the state of toxic mold. One of the presenters, Hardin, is one of

the biggest and best paid naysayers out there. Another presenter will be

speaking about the psychological aspect of the toxic mold issue.

Okay, these are the boys that suppose to be helping people get better. I

say BS. They want to make money selling us a ton of useless pharmaceuticals

while also making money defending stakeholder industries in courtrooms. It is

so perverted, if I hadn't already been sick, this would make me sick.

If the people in Canada, who are experiencing an outbreak of blastomycoses

lived in the United States, I would be willing to bet money that in the year

2005, with all that is known, these people would be diagnosed with asthma and

given a bunch of useless steriods, inhalers and antibiotics....until the

died. By the way, what type of treatment is being used to treat these people?

Does anyone know?

If they want to play word games, and say we have Asthma, then so can we. I

say, we have Fungal Asthma. Proper treatment should be to eliminate the

fungi and the toxins they produce. Here is another term what they are feeding

us

is Poisoned Truth. I believe there is even a new environemental financial

risk corporation whose names even admits its.

Sharon

In a message dated 8/12/2005 11:39:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,

grimes@... writes:

Sharon,

It's based on the post of Aug 12 by " carondeen "

<kdeanstudios@...> where said some doctors at an ALA

meeting were citing those numbers. I wondered where they got it. So

there is no more confusion, her post is as follows:

I participated in the Asthma walk, awareness day here in VA, as the

American Lung Ass is making asthma #1 on its agenda, and has

promised to go after it with fervor. At the kick off meeting, which

was every doctor in the area and me, I spoke out for finding out

what enviromental factors are leading to this, and got the docs to

admitt that enviromental toxins are responsible for the rise, but

their entire object is to medicate, medicate- being docs, that is

all they think they can do. They site the incredible statistical

rise in people who drop dead within 24 hrs of seeing a doc for the

asthma as a failure of the health care system to medicate fully and

explain medication- Seeing that meds never helped me much- the only

thing that helps my breathing is avoidence of our old friend mold- I

think it will only be a matter of time before a light bulb turns on

over their heads. Please, those who have the strength , go to these

Lung Ass meetings and tell your stories- they give us an opportunity

to speak to a captive audience of Doctors. Maybe someone will listen

[Guest guest]

and this is an aside point, sharon, but did you & the gang know that they

are now treating interstitial cystitis (of the bladder) with antifungals?

SUCCESSFULLY? and that's at the cleveland (ohio) clinic!!!!!!!!

victoria

Re: [] Re: One in six US high school students has

asthma

>

> Ya know there is a WHOLE LOT of double talk going on here. They need to

> define what " asthma " means today. Does mycotoxicosis and hypersenstivity

> pneumonitis now fall under the term " asthma " ? One can't find the

> statistics for HP

> anymore on the NORMS website.

>

> In England, they are finding that antifungals are being used effectively

> to

> treat " asthma " and opposed to all those useless and dangerous antibiotics

> and

> steriods they prescribe for- and here's a new one for you, Fungal Asthma

> (FA). But here in the US, the FDA has not approved antifungals for such

> purposes. NOT EVEN GONNA LOOK AT IT! Why? Because to acknowledge we are

> sick with

> FA, would increase the financial liability for whoever owns, sells,

> builds,

> maintains or insures the structure that is responsible for FA.

>

> The American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology has a huge meeting

> coming up in Nov in LA. On Nov 9th, a group of them are giving a

> presentation

> on the state of toxic mold. One of the presenters, Hardin, is one

> of

> the biggest and best paid naysayers out there. Another presenter will be

> speaking about the psychological aspect of the toxic mold issue.

>

> Okay, these are the boys that suppose to be helping people get better. I

> say BS. They want to make money selling us a ton of useless

> pharmaceuticals

> while also making money defending stakeholder industries in courtrooms.

> It is

> so perverted, if I hadn't already been sick, this would make me sick.

>

> If the people in Canada, who are experiencing an outbreak of blastomycoses

> lived in the United States, I would be willing to bet money that in the

> year

> 2005, with all that is known, these people would be diagnosed with asthma

> and

> given a bunch of useless steriods, inhalers and antibiotics....until the

> died. By the way, what type of treatment is being used to treat these

> people?

> Does anyone know?

>

> If they want to play word games, and say we have Asthma, then so can we.

> I

> say, we have Fungal Asthma. Proper treatment should be to eliminate the

> fungi and the toxins they produce. Here is another term what they are

> feeding us

> is Poisoned Truth. I believe there is even a new environemental

> financial

> risk corporation whose names even admits its.

>

> Sharon

>

> In a message dated 8/12/2005 11:39:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> grimes@... writes:

>

> Sharon,

>

> It's based on the post of Aug 12 by " carondeen "

> <kdeanstudios@...> where said some doctors at an ALA

> meeting were citing those numbers. I wondered where they got it. So

> there is no more confusion, her post is as follows:

>

> I participated in the Asthma walk, awareness day here in VA, as the

> American Lung Ass is making asthma #1 on its agenda, and has

> promised to go after it with fervor. At the kick off meeting, which

> was every doctor in the area and me, I spoke out for finding out

> what enviromental factors are leading to this, and got the docs to

> admitt that enviromental toxins are responsible for the rise, but

> their entire object is to medicate, medicate- being docs, that is

> all they think they can do. They site the incredible statistical

> rise in people who drop dead within 24 hrs of seeing a doc for the

> asthma as a failure of the health care system to medicate fully and

> explain medication- Seeing that meds never helped me much- the only

> thing that helps my breathing is avoidence of our old friend mold- I

> think it will only be a matter of time before a light bulb turns on

> over their heads. Please, those who have the strength , go to these

> Lung Ass meetings and tell your stories- they give us an opportunity

> to speak to a captive audience of Doctors. Maybe someone will listen

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Ya know there is a WHOLE LOT of double talk going on here.

> They want to make money selling us a ton of useless pharmaceuticals

> while also making money defending stakeholder industries in >courtrooms.

Sharon and Group --

Once again, you've hit the nail on the head. The entire driving

dynamic here is that of supporting the Pharmaceutical and Medical

treatment infrastructures.

Eliminating environmental toxins is going to COST, and symptomatic

treatment of fungal-associated disease is going to PAY. Over the

Counter allergy medications now comprise the single largest profit

center for Big Pharma. I imagine that prescription treatment for newly

defined conditions will not be cheap either.

The Surgeon General of the United States, the directors of the

National Institutes of Health, and the sycophant " research " hospitals

that parrot their messaging (and who depend on public grants) are

going to have to answer to this. They have forgotten who ultimately

signs their paychecks. We need to reveiw the performance of our public

servants in light of any and all future information on this issue.

Lee

Director

Fungal Disease Resource Center, Inc

http://www.fdrcinc.org

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/13/2005 6:15:26 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

toria@... writes:

and this is an aside point, sharon, but did you & the gang know that they

are now treating interstitial cystitis (of the bladder) with antifungals?

SUCCESSFULLY? and that's at the cleveland (ohio) clinic!!!!!!!!

victoria

I didn't know that, please expand!

Sharon

[Guest guest]

I CAN'T, SHARON, CAUSE THAT'S REALLY ALL I KNOW...BUT MY UROLOGIST TOLD ME

THAT, & I LIKE LOVEEEEEEE HIM. HE'S WONDERFUL, & HE'S BEEN DOING ALL KINDS

OF RESEARCH ON PROSTATE CANCER....

I DO HAVE AN APPT. WITH HIM THIS WEEK, THO, SO IF I FIND OUT MORE, WILL POST

OK?

TAKE CARE,

VICTORIA

Re: [] Re: One in six US high school students has

asthma

>

> In a message dated 8/13/2005 6:15:26 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> toria@... writes:

>

> and this is an aside point, sharon, but did you & the gang know that they

> are now treating interstitial cystitis (of the bladder) with antifungals?

> SUCCESSFULLY? and that's at the cleveland (ohio) clinic!!!!!!!!

> victoria

>

>

> I didn't know that, please expand!

>

> Sharon

>

>

>