Re: Solubility of Toxins (removal of mycotoxins)

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Both Dr. A. Croft (

http://chat.osb.net/read.php?f=25 & i=2165 & t=2165 ) and Greg Weatherman

recommend ammonia. Croft said he has done before and after testing

for trichothecene and found that the ammonia does indeed knock it

out.

He said to use 2 cups per washerload. Or as a sprayon for hard

surfaces, 2 or 3 cups per gallon. (1 gallon = 16 cups) This seems

like a much higher ratio for the spray on, perhaps because it is not

in contact as long. Be sure to use clear vs. cloudy ammonia, you

don't want any residual soapy film, just evaporation.

There is a new government developed decon agent made by Modec,

http://www.deconsolutions.com and http://www.envirofoam.com , these

are based on quatenary ammonia and hydrogen peroxide. However these

spray on solutions are only being sold to govt. and law enforcement.

Some mold remediation firms are using them, such as

http://www.iaqm.com/about.html .

> > Jules,

> > Is this for 'one time' cleaning of certain items? For routine

> cleaning, it

> > seems the cost would be prohibitive.

> > Yes, I've worked with rubbing alcohol before. It can really do

> damage to

> > your lungs, so definately mask. Does mask work for alcohol

> fumes? It seems

> > like gaseous things might go through a mask unless you would use

> charcoal

> > mask like Rose. I guess you'd also want to use mask because it

> you dissolve

> > mycotoxins, you might be breathing those in with alcohol fumes.

> It's a

> > difficult thing to figure out. I wish someone would do

> experiments on this

> > to determine how to remove mycotoxins from air and material

> safely. I don't

> > picture mycotoxins lying around on surfaces but rather like a

gas,

> mixed

> > with air. I guess water of wash would carry toxins mixed with

> alcohol out in

> > laundry water. Since air would flow through fabrics, I can see

> toxins

> > perhaps clinging to cloth fibers. As for countertops, I'd be

> surprised

> > surface would be coated my mycotoxins, but rather bacteria and

> fungii. I

> > think vapor cleaner Jeff mentioned would do a better job for

> countertops and

> > safer for your lungs, especially people whose lungs have already

> taken a

> > beating by mold.

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " julesblucky " <julesblucky@y...>

> >

> >

> > > Hi Barb,

> > > It varies, but for overnight soaking, I'm using about a pint

> alcohol

> > > in a sink/large bucket of water. Also using it straight for

> cleaning

> > > off surfaces and spraying down things I'm really reacting to.

> > >

> > > Be sure to protect yourself from the fumes (mask/open

> windows/fans),

> > > but they disperse quickly.

> > >

> > > Jules