Guest guest Posted November 21, 1998 Report Share Posted November 21, 1998 === Hi everyone! A while back - on the oxylist - a couple of times I had gotten REAL PISSED-OFF while reading some emails. After " shooting from the hip " a few times, I realized I was responding to " faceless people " somewhere out in email land. I soon came to the realization that I needed to write my emails just as if I were standing face-to-face with the person(s) I was " pissed off " at. I had to attach a flesh and blood person to my recipients. When I did that, I no longer got as angry as I originally did. I realized, that - MAYBE - the way " I " read or interperet the writer's emotions, is not the way the person FELT when they wrote it. Anyway, that fact that we all are on this list sharing information and experiences means we have something in common, the ability to CARE about other people, to be selfless and to offer others - therapies, protocols and products that have worked for us - individually. We are all " brother's and sister's " in spirit, each of us needs to remember " who we are - and where we came from " so long... long... ago. We have drifted so far from our creator (as the " Cayce readings " put it) and forgot out TRUE heritage. A kind word here and there, a listening ear, compassion, love, FAITH always. I love all of you very much, and as I write this - at this very moment, I just thought of our dear departed friend " Joost (Jovo) Vossen " who was always kind to everyone - as I saw it. My parting words are... would we treat our creator or Jesus - harshly? hardly not. We must remember, that we are all, little parts of GOD, Gods in the making. Sorry If I offend anyone, the above words just came to me and I thought I would just share them with you. Love and Peace to all Bill Galkowski I had to respond write my response - At 04:12 PM 11/21/98 -0800, you wrote: >From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> > >>>Randall Prue wrote: >>>To piss off absolutely everybody... >>******* > wrote: >>God Bless You Randall >******** >--------------------------------------------------------------------------> > >Dear Friends on this list (and friends you have become), when this list >started I expressed to Jim my fears of an unmoderated list. But, because of >another list he is on and possibly other experiences, he believed it had a >good shot. > >Now I have just read his understandable ultimatum. Yet I find that I >actually want to continue this experiment in free speech. I want to believe >that we on this list, who have gathered in cyberspace because of our mutual >interest in healing, self-healing, and fascinating topics and ideas related >to healing, have the maturity to handle ourselves and our list without a >moderator. > >It will take self-disciple. It will take understanding that certain topics >will simply stir up " commotion " , no matter how well-intentioned we are. > >Abortion, for instance. Come one, folks, it doesn't take much common sense >to realize that we are all going to have very different opinions about such >a loaded topic. Or that nothing we say on this list is going to convince >anyone else to think any differently. > >Religion is another topic where I'm sure we have far-ranging stances. We >have Christians, Jews, Pagans, Athiests, Buddists, New Agers, and I'm sure >other people I'm missing. Of what use is it to bring it up here? It will >only trigger a reaction in someone else, who may hold strongly-held but >differing beliefs. > >Surely I am not alone in seeing that certain topics will only result in an >email racketball game. > >What did, above, is stop the game. Somehow, each of us, in our own >way, has got to stop the game. We have to stop " reacting " . We have got to >use our religious beliefs, freeze-framing, a walk around the block, or >anything we can find. We have to wake up, grow up, wise up, if we want to >have an adult, unmoderated list. > >I don't think that means not having fun. At least I sure hope not. But it >does mean thinking beyond our immediate " hot " reaction. And beyond our >righteous indignation. And beyond our feeling that we'll just explode if we >don't tell that so-and-so what we think. > >The thing that blows me away is, how absolutely wonderful I have found >everyone I have connected with on this list, off-list. So many of you have >gone out of your way to help me. I KNOW what good people are on this list. >And I do believe that the interests that draw us here create a bond that we >can emphasize, rather than the opposite. > >We have such a wonderful opportunity, dear friends, if each of us, >individually, can think just a little beyond our immediate, personal >reaction. If we can think about whether what we're putting out is, in fact, >contributing to the well-running and well-being of the list. Because the >list is our avenue to pursue a whole range of wonderful and important >topics, and it is up to each of us maintain it. > >If we lived in a community, or a house with other people, it would be up to >each of us to take part in the maintainance of that community or house. >Well here it is up to each of us to help maintain the integrity of this >list as what it is intended to be, a forum where people who have a >like-minded interest in healing can meet and exchange ideas and support. >Nothing more. Nothing different. Nothing less. > >We've got one day to show whether we can maintain this on our own, or >whether we cannot handle all this freedom, and need Big Brother Jim to take >over. I think he'd prefer not to have that responsiblity. But if he, or >someone else, doesn't, then we...WE...you and me, yes, YOU, reading this, >and ME, writing it, have to take it. > >Here are a few things I personally am doing: >--I have a note to myself over my computer. ( " She who laughs, lasts. " ) >--I'm doing my best to hold any " hot " replies I have for a day -- to see if >things look a little different in another light. > >I want this list to work. I'm sick, gang. I want to get well. I need your >help. So do other people here. I want to be able to give and receive, to >contribute what I can. And I want to read my email without having it stress >me out more than my illness does. > >How about it, dear friends... Can we do it? Can we? CAN WE???? > >Peace and health, > >Vilik > >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 1998 Report Share Posted November 22, 1998 Bill G. writes: >I soon came to the realization that I needed to write my emails just as if >I were standing face-to-face with the person(s) I was " pissed off " at. I >had to attach a flesh and blood person to my recipients. When I did that, >I no longer got as angry as I originally did. I realized, that - MAYBE - >the way " I " read or interperet the writer's emotions, is not the way the >person FELT when they wrote it. Is this not the primordial basis of e-mail ethics? We are all looking for something. If it's an argument, there are a gross multitude of alternative sites for amusement of that sort. As Jim correctly has implored us: > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. That would seem to be acheivable within a group of like minded souls focusing on topics we have in common. We joined oxyplus (unmoderated) to become self policing, and because we felt constricted elsewhere. Let's apply Jim's admonition (above) in both our searches - for mutually supportive physical and mental health - I think that's called holistic something or other.... Ed B> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 It looks like the group has been very busy the past few days. I have been away from the computer for the most part. I have read all of the emails, but didn't have a lot of time to respond. ... I had been wondering where you had been. I am glad to see that you are back and on the wagon ... I loved your photo. I love to see what everyone else looks like! Sapphyre... Glad to see that you are still going to the gym despite those jerks that were there the other day. It is so important to get exercise in! I need to start again today as well. I was going to start back up yesterday now that my ear is feeling better, but it was my daughters 8th birthday and we had company coming over so most of my day was spent cleaning house. I know that counts as some sort of exercise, but not what I wanted to do. Dacia... Glad to hear you had a great time in Hawaii sorry to hear about your basement though. You must have some really great friends to have moved your stuff for you! Hopefully you will get things back in order without too much hassle. Eileen... congrats on your weigh in! I know it was a turtle, but hey, better that then a gain! It is so hard in the summer months will all of the vacations, family gatherings, and holiday celebrations. Sue... glad to see you check in. I hope the sinus infection is getting better. I have an appointment today for a recheck, I am pretty sure he was more concerned with my ear infection. It seems to be better now. Maret... Congrats on the 5lb loss! Way to go! Keep up the good work! Welcome to all the new members! I am sure I have missed someone along the way with trying to catch up. I hate to do it, but now that I have read and posted these short replies, I will deleting the 103 messages in my folder that I have read and hopefully this week I will be able to keep up a bit better! Onward and Downward! a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 > Sue... glad to see you check in. I hope the sinus infection is > getting better. Those neti pots are wonderful things when it comes to irrigating sinuses. > I have an appointment today for a recheck, I am > pretty sure he was more concerned with my ear infection. It seems to > be better now. Hopefully the dizziness is all gone and you feel better now. Sue in NJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Yup, neti pots can be really helpful for sinus infections. Steep some raw crushed garlic or clove oil in boiling water, strain and then use in the neti pot. These are natural antibacterials. Luv, Debby in San , CA 147 pounds lost! 100% of health issues reversed! Currently studying for Nutrition license and PhD in Psychology Group: curingcandida/ Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com ----- Original Message ---- > From: Sue in NJ > > > Sue... glad to see you check in. I hope the sinus infection is > > getting better. > > Those neti pots are wonderful things when it comes to irrigating > sinuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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