Fwd: Re: o3ozone.com Ozone systems - Alignment - Re: your shipment

[Guest guest]

I bought a $500 ozone generator last week after this person told me it would

clear up my problem with mold in my trailer. I wrote him today telling him it

did not work and I wanted my money back. thought this would be interesting to

read. they offer a money-back guarantee and then say that it has been exposed to

mold so it is against the law to take it back after used in a biological unsafe

area. Well DUH! why offer a money-back guarantee because they know it is going

to be used in that environment or we wouldn't have bought it. If I survive this

crisis, I think I will sue this company in Ohio.

Bob

" info@... " <info@...> wrote:

From: " info@... " <info@...>

" Bob " <blue74730@...>

Subject: Re: o3ozone.com Ozone systems - Alignment - Re: your shipment

Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 21:31:45 -0400

It is proven that these machines work for residual mold remediation. The ozone

machines will have NIST certified ratings within the next few weeks.(National

Institute of Science and Technology). NIST is a well respected rating that is

accepted by all state and local governments. The results will be available and

published as soon as they come in.

If the unit has been used in a highly contaminated biologically unsafe

environment, the return cannot be accepted as state and local laws prevent the

resale of merchandise from such environments. Understand that ozone is only a

step in the proper remediation of biologically unsafe environments and toxic

mold remediation. Ozone will only kill residual mold and bacteria after proper

steps have been taken including removal of highly contaminated materials.

(as per our return policy)

The unit can be resold only by the user such as on eBay or other sales means.

We can provide adequate online sales resources such as product description and

picture if needed.

Thank you for understanding.

Doug Bracken

330-493-6974

www.o3ozone.com

Re: o3ozone.com Ozone systems - Alignment - Re: your shipment

Doug,

I went out to my car with a/c on and took the model apart. The hi-lo knob was

still glued on the the circuit board. question about the screens, when they are

put into the coil are the two outside screens suppose to be in ONE part of coil

or does it matter. One of the screens it looks like the two outside screens are

on different sides on the coil so they there is a very small gap between the

outside screens.

Doug, I couldn't believe that this machine was $500!! I have never used one

before but this one is so easy to get screwed up and I am not a technician. I

would have thought for $500 it would have had five screens (is that the highest

output there is?). I am disappointed so far but I am trying to give it a chance

but I have so ill since last saturday morning that I didn't need a machine that

was complicated to make it work properly. If I had known they were this

complicated, I wouldn't have ordered one. Ithink I would have left here on the

weekend and headed for Mexico and some relief. I have a tent but it is too hot

even at night here but it gets down in the 50's at San .

If this does not make my trailer liveable, can I return it? I was hoping to stay

here until early november when I have my disability doctor appointment and that

was why I hadn't left yet. Sitting here typing Ican feel a mold " hit " . My ears

start ringing and I start getting a headache. I am going to move the unit tothe

bedroom where my computer is and see how it smells after a couple of hours and I

hope I can sit in my living room where I just blasted it for four hours and see

if I feel anything.

Harrington

" info@... " <info@...> wrote:

I have attached a picture of proper alignment. The unit in the picture is the

PRO 3400 series, which is a similar element system and is a good representation.

The note just wants the owner to check the alignment after receiving the unit

from shipping. The unit can also be observed but not touched while in operation

to help find a plate(s) (if any) are out of sync. You can tell if one or more

is out of alignment by the sound of the unit. When turned up, the corona noise

(hiss-like) should not be erratic. No " crackling or popping " noise should be

heard.

Make sure the inner stainless screen (has the thin wire that attaches to the

tower) has not shifted up or down (should be centered between the clear sheets

). It is necessary to look through the outer screens at different angles, or

with light behind the screens to observe.

See if you can see the inner screen - it needs to be square in the middle of

each plate set with approx. 1/2 inch clearance to all edges of the mica on all

sides (the mica dielectric sheets (clear) insulate and control the corona

process. The inner stainless screen should not be close to any edge of the

dielectric sheets).

Thank you for doing this procedure.

Doug Bracken

330-493-6974

www.o3ozone.com

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[Guest guest]

Obviously Bob, their warranty is as useless as the product itself.

There are many snakeoil salesmen in any field. I would definately

contact the FTC, along with:

Professor Shaughnessy, University of Tulsa

Docent Aino Nevalainen, KTL

Ulla Haverinen-Shaughnessy, PhD

-shaughnessy@...

also,

Eugene C. Cole, Ph.D

Professor

Department of Health Science

Brigham Young University

229-K s Building

Provo, Utah 84602

(801) 422-7491 phone

(801) 422-0273 fax

gene_cole@...

These are the two experts that went up against Alphine in federal

court. I'm sure they would be interested in what you have to say.

KC

> I have attached a picture of proper alignment. The unit in the

picture is the PRO 3400 series, which is a similar element system

and is a good representation.

>

> The note just wants the owner to check the alignment after

receiving the unit from shipping. The unit can also be observed but

not touched while in operation to help find a plate(s) (if any) are

out of sync. You can tell if one or more is out of alignment by the

sound of the unit. When turned up, the corona noise (hiss-like)

should not be erratic. No " crackling or popping " noise should be

heard.

>

> Make sure the inner stainless screen (has the thin wire that

attaches to the tower) has not shifted up or down (should be

centered between the clear sheets ). It is necessary to look

through the outer screens at different angles, or with light behind

the screens to observe.

>

> See if you can see the inner screen - it needs to be square in the

middle of each plate set with approx. 1/2 inch clearance to all

edges of the mica on all sides (the mica dielectric sheets (clear)

insulate and control the corona process. The inner stainless screen

should not be close to any edge of the dielectric sheets).

>

> Thank you for doing this procedure.

>

>

> Doug Bracken

> 330-493-6974

> www.o3ozone.com

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Start your day with - make it your home page

>

> ---------------------------------

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

For what it's worth...

An ozone generator helped me, albeit in a semi-clean environment (I

left my mold house/work 1+/2+ years ago via total avoidance, and

hotel hopping).

I had been living just fine in a small studio apartment for a few

months, slowly replacing my belongings, and getting back to life,

and all of sudden got slammed again; had trouble breathing, ear

aches, rash, allergy symptoms, red face, swollen eyes in the

morning, etc.

I believe it was due to cross-contamination from a few of my old

belongings that I had put in my car, which cross-contaminated my

clothes, and my apartment (amazing but true - wasn't careful enough -

tough to figure out where to draw that line, and tough to be strict

with yourself about it).

I had very high hopes after listening to the ozone generator

salesman's claims, then was disappointed after my first treatment in

my apartment of 10 hours. Faced with no other option but to put

everything in storage again and give up my apartment and my car (to

go where, and do what, with what money?), I proceeded to try a

second and third treatment over a month-long period, and it

eventually worked.

Not sure if the ozone killed the spores/toxins, or simply knocked

everything out of the air so I could clean/vacuum it up. Had the

same results with my cross-contaminated car that had been semi-clean

and not bothering me for 3+ months, but it took three tries, and I

will probably treat it again in another month or two just incase

there are low-levels that I can't sense as easily.

It just required a lot of work, diligence, and determination on my

part. As well as lots of regular cleaning, washing, spraying,

soaking, etc. in between with alcohol, ammonia, etc.

Knowing what I now know, or what I perceive anyway, I wouldn't even

bother trying to use ozone in a known mold-contaminated place,

because the spores will continue to reproduce, and possibly produce

toxins as well. But I guess it depends on your level of sensitivity.

Luckily, I am able to keep my car and apartment, for now, but won't

bring even a simple piece of paper or clothing from my old

environment into my new environment.

Jules

> I have attached a picture of proper alignment. The unit in the

picture is the PRO 3400 series, which is a similar element system

and is a good representation.

>

> The note just wants the owner to check the alignment after

receiving the unit from shipping. The unit can also be observed but

not touched while in operation to help find a plate(s) (if any) are

out of sync. You can tell if one or more is out of alignment by the

sound of the unit. When turned up, the corona noise (hiss-like)

should not be erratic. No " crackling or popping " noise should be

heard.

>

> Make sure the inner stainless screen (has the thin wire that

attaches to the tower) has not shifted up or down (should be

centered between the clear sheets ). It is necessary to look

through the outer screens at different angles, or with light behind

the screens to observe.

>

> See if you can see the inner screen - it needs to be square in the

middle of each plate set with approx. 1/2 inch clearance to all

edges of the mica on all sides (the mica dielectric sheets (clear)

insulate and control the corona process. The inner stainless screen

should not be close to any edge of the dielectric sheets).

>

> Thank you for doing this procedure.

>

>

> Doug Bracken

> 330-493-6974

> www.o3ozone.com

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Start your day with - make it your home page

>

> ---------------------------------

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

> __________________________________________________

>