Re: MS Another coincidence?

[Guest guest]

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Mold does cause MS! I was diagnosed with MS after exposure to Stachybotrys

Chartarum and Chaetomium Mold found in a supposedly remodeled home.

Yanni Zack of California

[] MS Another coincidence?

While at the hospital getting chest x-ray and upper GI, (which took

hours, yucky white stuff!)who should I meet but another employee from

work. She was getting similar tests as well as CT scan. Her doctor

told her he suspects she has MS! I tried to educate her on mold such

as stachybotrys & chaetomium but she is the type of person that you

just can't talk to. Even though she has the same symptoms as others at

work, she is in major denial. She denies having rashes but I saw her

at work months ago scratching and saw the rash on her myself. She

denies ever having a sinus cold but I remember the days she was

borrowing my box of kleenex and then she was off work for several days

with no voice due to this " imaginary cold " . I begged her to at least

mention what I said to her doctor so he can investigate further. She

just laughed and said that " mold cannot give you MS " . I am just sick

to my stomache that she won't even consider the possibilty that the

work-place did this to her. She was not sick before working there. At

least I tried!

FAIR USE NOTICE:

[Guest guest]

You know mold can cause MS and I know that now too, but this girl

denies it and is not going to tell her doctor anything about others

getting sick at work. She is the type who does not want to be lumped

in with others. " I don't have what everyone else has, I'm different! "

those were her exact words..

--- In , " Dr. Yanni Zack " <drzack@a...>

wrote:

> ,

> Mold does cause MS! I was diagnosed with MS after exposure to

Stachybotrys Chartarum and Chaetomium Mold found in a supposedly

remodeled home.

[Guest guest]

,

Believe me, we understand. This is the same way my wifes fellow

employees reacted when we started to inform them what we thought

maybe causing everyones illness. Years later even after we had

definate answers they wouldn't listen and some were very sick. Their

excuse was, " I need my job and the insurance. " And I said so did my

wife, but her life/health was much more important. You can only do

so much and you can't convince those who won't listen. They have to

learn the hard way. Some females were pregnant while they were in

that building, so you know what's running through my mind. To this

day, even after all the testing they (management) haven't informed

or anyone else what is in that building. The employees were

specifically told not to talk to us, I wonder why!!

KC

--- In , " msheeh02 " <msheeh02@e...>

wrote:

> While at the hospital getting chest x-ray and upper GI, (which

took

> hours, yucky white stuff!)who should I meet but another employee

from

> work. She was getting similar tests as well as CT scan. Her doctor

> told her he suspects she has MS! I tried to educate her on mold

such

> as stachybotrys & chaetomium but she is the type of person that

you

> just can't talk to. Even though she has the same symptoms as

others at

> work, she is in major denial. She denies having rashes but I saw

her

> at work months ago scratching and saw the rash on her myself. She

> denies ever having a sinus cold but I remember the days she was

> borrowing my box of kleenex and then she was off work for several

days

> with no voice due to this " imaginary cold " . I begged her to at

least

> mention what I said to her doctor so he can investigate further.

She

> just laughed and said that " mold cannot give you MS " . I am just

sick

> to my stomache that she won't even consider the possibilty that

the

> work-place did this to her. She was not sick before working there.

At

> least I tried!

[Guest guest]

I do find it frustrating though, you know exactly how I feel. Which

reminds me that another co-worker did mention that several girls had

miscarriages. She wondered if the building is what caused it. I know

of two miscarriages at work of young healthy girls late 20's.

> > While at the hospital getting chest x-ray and upper GI, (which

> took

> > hours, yucky white stuff!)who should I meet but another employee

> from

> > work. She was getting similar tests as well as CT scan. Her

doctor

> > told her he suspects she has MS! I tried to educate her on mold

> such

> > as stachybotrys & chaetomium but she is the type of person that

> you

> > just can't talk to. Even though she has the same symptoms as

> others at

> > work, she is in major denial. She denies having rashes but I saw

> her

> > at work months ago scratching and saw the rash on her myself.

She

> > denies ever having a sinus cold but I remember the days she was

> > borrowing my box of kleenex and then she was off work for

several

> days

> > with no voice due to this " imaginary cold " . I begged her to at

> least

> > mention what I said to her doctor so he can investigate further.

> She

> > just laughed and said that " mold cannot give you MS " . I am just

> sick

> > to my stomache that she won't even consider the possibilty that

> the

> > work-place did this to her. She was not sick before working

there.

> At

> > least I tried!

[Guest guest]

,

I know there has been some research on this, miscarriages and their

possible causes. But you know just like the critics claim about the

rest of the research, nothing to prove it. But we know different.

I'm not aware of any miscarriages, but I do believe both of them

went full term, but from what I have been told these are two more

children that will have asthma along with several other ailments.

It's a shame, isn't it. The medical community has the option of

making a difference and stopping this right now and they flat out

refuse to. Just like some of your authorities at the CDC, they say

what they are paid to say. Not what the science confirms.

Another meaning for the word prostitute.

> > > While at the hospital getting chest x-ray and upper GI, (which

> > took

> > > hours, yucky white stuff!)who should I meet but another

employee

> > from

> > > work. She was getting similar tests as well as CT scan. Her

> doctor

> > > told her he suspects she has MS! I tried to educate her on

mold

> > such

> > > as stachybotrys & chaetomium but she is the type of person

that

> > you

> > > just can't talk to. Even though she has the same symptoms as

> > others at

> > > work, she is in major denial. She denies having rashes but I

saw

> > her

> > > at work months ago scratching and saw the rash on her myself.

> She

> > > denies ever having a sinus cold but I remember the days she

was

> > > borrowing my box of kleenex and then she was off work for

> several

> > days

> > > with no voice due to this " imaginary cold " . I begged her to at

> > least

> > > mention what I said to her doctor so he can investigate

further.

> > She

> > > just laughed and said that " mold cannot give you MS " . I am

just

> > sick

> > > to my stomache that she won't even consider the possibilty

that

> > the

> > > work-place did this to her. She was not sick before working

> there.

> > At

> > > least I tried!

[Guest guest]

" different? " or DITSY?

v.

[] Re: MS Another coincidence?

> You know mold can cause MS and I know that now too, but this girl

> denies it and is not going to tell her doctor anything about others

> getting sick at work. She is the type who does not want to be lumped

> in with others. " I don't have what everyone else has, I'm different! "

> those were her exact words..

>

>

>

>

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>> Mold does cause MS! I was diagnosed with MS after exposure to

> Stachybotrys Chartarum and Chaetomium Mold found in a supposedly

> remodeled home.

>

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>

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>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am just sick

to my stomache that she won't even consider the possibilty that the

work-place did this to her. She was not sick before working there. At

least I tried!

,

I know exactly how you feel!!! I left my school in the fall of 2003 and

people are still there getting sick. Some have been back and forth to Drs. who

are telling them they have everything from Mono, Lupus, Epstein Barr,

diabetes, hormone problems, dermatitis and the list goes on. They just do not

believe that mold can make people sick!! Amazing, I guess some people just

choose

to be victims!!

We can lead a horse to water but can't make them drink!The only ones I feel

badly for are the children, since they depend on adults to take care of them

and the adults aren't listening!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sue

[Guest guest]

I do have a question though, Were we taking this mold home to infect

our families? Someone on the forum did mention contamination from a

sick workplace transferred to their car. That thought had never

occurred to me, but makes sense, doesn't it?

As for the cross contamination I don't know what to say. All I know is that

I don't have any problems at home or in my car so I guess everything is

fine. Dr. Shoemaker proved it was from my school by putting me on and off

medication, in and out of the bldg. & each time checking my blood. Bottom line

is

I'm not sick at my home, but I do know when I go into a bad place. I get

light headed & the spacey feeling, then the headache and brain fog set in.

Had lunch with a friend one day & felt funny by the time my sandwich came. When

I walked out the door a half hr. later I had NO IDEA where we parked the

car!!! At least, now, I know what it is. Two yrs. ago when it would happen I

thought I was going crazy!!

Sue

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Most people that I am talking with are relieved that others have the

same symptoms as SOME Doctors are telling them it is all in their

heads. It can be very comforting to know that you are not suffering

alone. We are all getting impatient for the results from Environment &

Labour dept. (that could take weeks). There are just a few people that

are not taking this seriously. All we can do is warn them and MAKE

SURE that the " nay sayers " get copies of the test results when we get

them. Actually we are thinking about handing out flyers since we are

not allowed in the building if we are off work (need to swipe ID cards

to get in). A few that I have talked to are looking up former

employees to find out if they got sick while they worked there. There

are people out there that never will believe anything without concrete

proof and I can respect that, so we will get the proof for them.

I do have a question though, Were we taking this mold home to infect

our families? Someone on the forum did mention contamination from a

sick workplace transferred to their car. That thought had never

occurred to me, but makes sense, doesn't it?