What should I do?

[Guest guest]

e -

What kind of specialized training does he have? Did he take any

addt'l classes? If not, I would say don't do it. With Abby's age,

your window of opportunity for good correction is closing quickly.

An inexperienced ortho can do more harm than good and your time

would be limited to correct the damage.

Of course someone always has to be first, but if the ortho wasn't

well educated and didn't have someone with a good amount of

experience double checking his work, I would take a pass and go

somewhere else.

Is there anyone else in your area who does STARbands?

Dane's mom DOC Grad

> HI.

> I posted a few days ago about my daughter Abby. She has tort and

> plagio. I have a question that I would like a completely honest

> answer to (don't hold back opinions). Here is my situation - Abby

> is 9 1/2 months (time is hugely against us!) with VERY noticable

> plagio (her ears are not aligned and one eye is smaller than the

> other) and tort. I just started taking her to physical therapy

for

> the tort and asked about getting her banded. The physical

therapist

> talked to the orthotist and he said that he has never done it

before

> but would like to try. He is very eager but inexperienced. He

> would be using a STARband and he has already casted her on

Wednesday

> and I just found out about plagio and tort last week!! After

> reading about bad experiences with inexperienced orthotists I am

> very hesitant. My other option would be to take my daughter to

the

> DOC band clinic in Calgary (Canada) which is an 8 hour drive from

> where I live. I do have family in Calgary but to go once a week

for

> the first 4 weeks to have adjustments sounds tiring. But I would

if

> it would be worth it. Do you think this orthotist would do a good

> job considering his eagerness to learn and help? Honesty PLEASE!!

> Thanks

> e

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm going to tell you what everyone here told me when I asked if I

should take my daguther to an orthotist that was local, who only did

6 bands. Everyone said no, that they wouldn't take their baby there.

So if this were my child, I wouldn't go there. Since your daughter is

already 9.5 months old, you really don't have any room for error. You

MIGHT have to go to CT every week for the first 4 weeks. But then

again you might not. Most " older " babies go once every 2 weeks.

The window of opportunity for correction isn't a huge one and since

you are starting out a little late, I really think you should go to

the DOCband clinic. That way you are guaranteed to see some

correction. What if this very eager to learn ortho causes more damage

to her head? By the time you did get her into a DOCband she would

probably only get minimal correction. The owner of this group's

daughter Abby, was in a STARband that made her plagio worse. Because

the ortho didn't have any experince. She was 11.5 months old when she

got into a DOCband. I think she got 50-60% correction of her now

severe plagio. I'm sure Debbie will tell you all about it.If your

daughter was say 4 months old, I'd say to try him. But since she is

older, I say better safe than sorry. I'm sure this isn't what you

wanted to hear, but you asked for honesty. :-)

Good luck with your decision and please keep us posted,

> HI.

> I posted a few days ago about my daughter Abby. She has tort and

> plagio. I have a question that I would like a completely honest

> answer to (don't hold back opinions). Here is my situation - Abby

> is 9 1/2 months (time is hugely against us!) with VERY noticable

> plagio (her ears are not aligned and one eye is smaller than the

> other) and tort. I just started taking her to physical therapy for

> the tort and asked about getting her banded. The physical

therapist

> talked to the orthotist and he said that he has never done it

before

> but would like to try. He is very eager but inexperienced. He

> would be using a STARband and he has already casted her on

Wednesday

> and I just found out about plagio and tort last week!! After

> reading about bad experiences with inexperienced orthotists I am

> very hesitant. My other option would be to take my daughter to the

> DOC band clinic in Calgary (Canada) which is an 8 hour drive from

> where I live. I do have family in Calgary but to go once a week

for

> the first 4 weeks to have adjustments sounds tiring. But I would

if

> it would be worth it. Do you think this orthotist would do a good

> job considering his eagerness to learn and help? Honesty PLEASE!!

> Thanks

> e

[Guest guest]

e,

Honestly, with your little girl already approaching that one year mark soon, I wouldn't want to risk using an inexperienced ortho to get the job done. If your child was maybe 4 months old, with ample time on your side if mistakes should happen, that would be another story. But, in my opinion, I would rather drive the 8 hours, especially with family there it would make my decision even easier, and go with the Cadillac of helmets so to speak, its what they do, and your almost guaranteed to have results and a problem-free band. They do have problems sure, but it is very rare and I don't often hear of people ever regretting going with a DOC band- so your chances of failure and problems are almost minimal compared to someone who will be using your daughter as a guinea pig to learn about making them. It's your decision, and you will have to weigh all the pros and cons (travel, cost, etc.), but if you could work it out, I would say go for the DOC band. Good luck!

' Mom

[Guest guest]

Hi e,

First, I think it is great that the ortho is eager to help you. What

kind of experience does this ortho have? Does he work with

babies on a regular basis? I would proceed with extreme

caution. With Abby being almost 10 months you don't have any

time to waste with failed attempts. I know the 8 hour drive would

be a killer, but it may just be worth it for the peace of mind you

will have knowing that Abby is getting effective treatment from an

experienced ortho. Who knows - this ortho could do a great job

with the STARband, but that's just it - who knows! I certainly

understand your dilemma - this will be a very tough decision for

you and your family. At least you have family in the area of the

clinc.

Let us know what you decide to do.

Marci (Mom to )

Oklahoma

> HI.

> I posted a few days ago about my daughter Abby. She has tort

and

> plagio. I have a question that I would like a completely honest

> answer to (don't hold back opinions). Here is my situation -

Abby

> is 9 1/2 months (time is hugely against us!) with VERY

noticable

> plagio (her ears are not aligned and one eye is smaller than

the

> other) and tort. I just started taking her to physical therapy for

> the tort and asked about getting her banded. The physical

therapist

> talked to the orthotist and he said that he has never done it

before

> but would like to try. He is very eager but inexperienced. He

> would be using a STARband and he has already casted her on

Wednesday

> and I just found out about plagio and tort last week!! After

> reading about bad experiences with inexperienced orthotists I

am

> very hesitant. My other option would be to take my daughter to

the

> DOC band clinic in Calgary (Canada) which is an 8 hour drive

from

> where I live. I do have family in Calgary but to go once a week

for

> the first 4 weeks to have adjustments sounds tiring. But I

would if

> it would be worth it. Do you think this orthotist would do a good

> job considering his eagerness to learn and help? Honesty

PLEASE!!

> Thanks

> e

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/3/2005 6:19:49 PM Pacific Standard Time,

mfdf4@... writes:

Hi to all,

I have a situation that I am not sure how to handle. Perhaps

somebody out there can offer their thoughts. Well, I work for a

Lawyer and 4 out of 5 days I go to her home to do assigned work. I

have developed a wonderful relationship with my boss and I love my

job. So what is the problem you might ask? A few months ago it

rained very hard here in Maine and caused some flooding. Well, I

work in the basement of my bosses house and guess what happened?

You guessed it, it flooded. It took sometime (prob. weeks) before

the carpet was, I think, dry. I'm not so sure that it really did

dry completely. So, about 6 weeks later it happened again! At

least 8 inches of the worst looking water you could think of. Now,

I KNOW that the carpet hasn't fully dried since then because I have

nealed down on it and my clothes get wet (not soaked, but sill

damp). Also, there is no mistaking the smell of mold, NO

MISTAKING! I didn't think anything of it because the buliding is an

old buliding (1920's) so I thought it was part of owning an old

house. Well, yesterday I went to work and I dropped a pen on the

floor and when I went to bend down to pick it up, I found black,

fuzzy mold! It wouldn't upset me so much if it was just this one

patch of mold (about 8x8 inches) but I think it may be behind the

walls because the paint and wood are buckling all over the room.

There is even a mushroom type mold growing from a wooden toy box

that she has down there. Never mind all the paperwork that has been

damaged, not only by the two flooding situations, but from a

previous (before I started working for her) broken pipe situation.

I told and showed my boss the mold and she told me that her doctor

told her that she could use pepermint soap to wash it up and get rid

of the problem. She told me also, after the first incident, that

she was going to get somebody to paint with anti-bacterial paint. I

just don't think that any paint will fix the problem behind the

walls. So, I am inbetween a rock and a hard place because I am

afraid if I press the issue I will loose my job because I know she

doesn't have the money to fix it all. Also, I don't want to just

leave the job because, as I stated earlier, I love it and I really

need the money and hours (I have four kids schedules to work around)

that this job offers).

Well, I have so much more that I can say as to this subject but I

have to go for now. FYI, I wanted everybody to know that I did take

several pictures of my work area/mold. It just so happens that the

day that I brought my camera (to take a picture of a kitten that I

may get from my boss) to work was the day that I spotted the mold.

So, if anybody has any suggestions as to what they would do if they

were in my situation, PLEASE let me know!

Thanks!

You need to be upfront with your employer about your concerns. She may very

well believe that some peppermint soap and antibacterial paint will solve

her problem. Just tell her you are concerned about the health implications of

mold growth. Maybe she can find somewhere else for you to work or you could

work from home.

She sounds like a nice lady who you value working for. Be up front with her

and then let the chips fall where they may. I think just about anybody on

this board will tell you, a part time job, no matter how good it is, is NOT

worth they health ramafications of working in a moldy basement. Especially if

you are a mother of four.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Hi to all,

I have a situation that I am not sure how to handle. Perhaps

somebody out there can offer their thoughts. Well, I work for a

Lawyer and 4 out of 5 days I go to her home to do assigned work. I

have developed a wonderful relationship with my boss and I love my

job. So what is the problem you might ask? A few months ago it

rained very hard here in Maine and caused some flooding. Well, I

work in the basement of my bosses house and guess what happened?

You guessed it, it flooded. It took sometime (prob. weeks) before

the carpet was, I think, dry. I'm not so sure that it really did

dry completely. So, about 6 weeks later it happened again! At

least 8 inches of the worst looking water you could think of. Now,

I KNOW that the carpet hasn't fully dried since then because I have

nealed down on it and my clothes get wet (not soaked, but sill

damp). Also, there is no mistaking the smell of mold, NO

MISTAKING! I didn't think anything of it because the buliding is an

old buliding (1920's) so I thought it was part of owning an old

house. Well, yesterday I went to work and I dropped a pen on the

floor and when I went to bend down to pick it up, I found black,

fuzzy mold! It wouldn't upset me so much if it was just this one

patch of mold (about 8x8 inches) but I think it may be behind the

walls because the paint and wood are buckling all over the room.

There is even a mushroom type mold growing from a wooden toy box

that she has down there. Never mind all the paperwork that has been

damaged, not only by the two flooding situations, but from a

previous (before I started working for her) broken pipe situation.

I told and showed my boss the mold and she told me that her doctor

told her that she could use pepermint soap to wash it up and get rid

of the problem. She told me also, after the first incident, that

she was going to get somebody to paint with anti-bacterial paint. I

just don't think that any paint will fix the problem behind the

walls. So, I am inbetween a rock and a hard place because I am

afraid if I press the issue I will loose my job because I know she

doesn't have the money to fix it all. Also, I don't want to just

leave the job because, as I stated earlier, I love it and I really

need the money and hours (I have four kids schedules to work around)

that this job offers).

Well, I have so much more that I can say as to this subject but I

have to go for now. FYI, I wanted everybody to know that I did take

several pictures of my work area/mold. It just so happens that the

day that I brought my camera (to take a picture of a kitten that I

may get from my boss) to work was the day that I spotted the mold.

So, if anybody has any suggestions as to what they would do if they

were in my situation, PLEASE let me know!

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

I have a suggestion. We have done this for ourselves. We bought a

Prozone air purifier that is supposed to eliminate odors, smoke, pollen,

germs, MOLD, pet danger, carbon monoxide, viruses, etc. It is very

small. She could just carry it back and forth from her home to the

bosses' basement. Plug it in and forget it. There are no filters to

clean, no parts to replace. They can be contacted at 1-330-494-5504.

Ours cost $227 and a second unit would cost $177. I have no connection

to this company.

Amber

[Guest guest]

We bought a Prozone air purifier that is supposed to eliminate

odors, smoke, pollen, germs, MOLD, pet danger, carbon monoxide,

viruses, etc. It is very small. She could just carry it back and

forth from her home to the bosses' basement. Plug it in and forget

it. There are no filters to clean, no parts to replace. They can

be contacted at 1-330-494-5504. Ours cost $227 and a second unit

would cost $177. I have no connection to this company.

> Amber

A Prozone unit like this one?

http://www.negativeiongenerators.com/prozone.html

" Properly applied, the Prozone generates safe levels of ozone using

germicidal ultraviolet rays for superior reduction of odors.

Q. Who should buy the Prozone?

A. People who want to remove odors and are not as concerned about

removing dust, pollen, and other allergens. " !!!!!!!!

Just think of all the money that is going to be wasted by us moldies

going through the learning curve who buy these toys only to find out

that they do nothing to neutralize toxins and reduce our pain.

I wish that I were unethical enough to capitalize on the sheer

desperation of people by selling them such products.

Some slick packaged vitamin or magic ray gun to zap mold, perhaps?

Somehow I just couldn't bring myself to sell this crap to another

mold sufferer after seeing how ineffective they truly are.

The sellers of these gadgets must necessarily discover after a

short time that they do nothing - yet the sales continue: " Market

Demand " " People are willing to buy - so why should we not supply

them with what they want? "

BECAUSE THEY DON'T WORK AND YOU ARE RIPPING THEM OFF!

That's why.

-

[Guest guest]

I say dont go back to the doctor that put them in because he feels

thats not the problem! It is!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go to a ps that will take

the capsule out---I did not do this I have been explanted for 4 months

now and I have gotten better but I would have healed a little sooner if

I new what proper explant was at the time. You want a total

capsulectomy done with a doctor that is experienced in taking out the

implants and does alot of them. Dr. Feng is very good in Ohio I am

going to her in November to see about the capsules if I need them out,

so do yourself a favor to save yourself from another surgery and have

it done correctly.Its takes patience and effort on your part to eat

healthy and detox. Eat no sugars, refined foods or wheat. Simply eat

raw fruits and vegetables or lightly steamed for in order for your body

to rid these toxins from the implants.Exercise like walking or

stretching everyday with help the pain, try to take no meds for healing

just use all natural. Its been 4 months for me and I have came along

way, I also had my implants for6 months,and my PS said it was not the

problem but it was because as soon as I got them out I noticed the

shakeyness and brain fog a little lesser the same day.

God Bless and I will be praying for you?

Love

[Guest guest]

Don't know your situation and if this could be an option for you. But

I went to craigslist.com and they have a section where people are

looking to rent out rooms in their homes. I found someone with a

brand new home drastically reducing my chances of mold expousure.

It's not foolproof and I still react but I believe that's only

becuase I am really sensitized to mold. I don't think situations get

much better than this unless you start looking into special buildings

made out of metal or mold resistant materials. Which is actually what

I am looking into doing next.

--- In , " cmross428 " <cmross428@...>

wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> At present, I live in a moldy home that is making me ill. The

problem

> is, I live in a damp area and homes are often moldy. (Please - no

> suggestions that I move out of the area - I don't have the money).

>

> What can I do to make sure that my next home will not be moldy? You

> can't always smell mold. Mold detection companies have told me that

> they will charge $500 just to see if mold is a problem in an

apartment.

>

> Yes, I know about those cheapie $20 mold kits. But they take 2

weeks to

> work, and by then, the lease will be signed.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

A few weeks ago somebody I don't always agree with on everything BUT who has

a LOT of experience in 'tis' area gave me a list of suggestions for

situations like that that I have been meaning to edit a little and post

here.

__begin quote__

" I would ask a landlord a lot of questions regarding their property before

signing a lease agreement; but only AFTER I have been pre-qualified by the

landlord. However, please realize that a landlord may become suspicious of

these questions, and instead, rent to a person who is not so

& quot;nosey. & quot; To protect yourself from discrimination, get

pre-qualified FIRST. "

" Ask about maintenance history, methods, and frequency. (Every property has

a history, some more and some less. Do you see alarming trends, or is it

normal stuff? Are they good at documenting history, or not.)

Ask about those things that concern you, or affect you, most. (Moisture

events, mold, roof leaks, ground floor humidity, chemical use, etc.)

Ask about written maintenance and response actions. (Do they have written

guidance, or is it by the seat of their pants?)

Ask about their response to routine as well as non-routine events. (The 2am

toilet back-up as well as the 2am storm damage. What resources does the

landlord have a their disposal? Is the maintenance guy on site, on call, or

the next city away?)

Ask about the experience and training of their maintenance staff. Can they

speak and understand English? "

" Ask what their maintenance budget is, and what it includes? (Are there

line items in the budget for specific issues, e.g., roof leaks – This says

something!)

Ask about their practices when apartments are flipped between tenants? (Do

they paint and repair? Do they replace the carpeting? Do they clean, and

if so: What do they use to clean?, and Who do they use?, in-house persons or

out-sourced firms?)

Ask about their HVAC system practices. (Filter change-out frequency,

heat-exchanger cleaning, duct cleaning, maintenance frequency, etc.)

Ask about their common area maintenance. (What type of chemicals do they

use to control pests?)

Ask who are the principal points of contact, routine points of contact, and

who has authority to initiate response actions.

Ask about the specific apartment you are being rented. (What is its

history? Why did the former tenant leave? What is the maintenance history

of events that affect this apartment? ALSO.....Be sure to inspect the

actual apartment you are renting prior to taking possession of it – not a

model apartment!)

Tell them that you are hypersensitive to.....? Ask them that if you needed

some special accommodation, e.g., more frequent HVAC filter change-outs, new

carpeting, dehumidifiers, etc., would they be willing to accommodate your

request you shared in the cost. Maybe it is best if you have no

carpeting.....What then? "

" Take good notes....REALLY good notes, and let them know that you are taking

notes. Keep your notes with your copy of the lease agreement. I suggest

printing your questions into the form of a questionnaire, with blanks to

fill in their answers, before asking them. Makes things a bit easier, and

give you to opportunity to observe them as they answer these questions, i.e.,

are the answers forthright and honest, or do they squirm. "

" If you can get through this with honest answers, and you like the answers,

AND they are still willing to rent to you.....you probably have a quality

landlord. "

That last part seems as if it makes a lot of sense. I think that a good

landlord will probably not be bothered by questions like this, but a bad

landlord would..

It works the other way, too. A good tenant will not be bothered by a

landlord wanting to know how they will treat the propertyand respond to

issues. A good landlord will want to know if a tenant has problems has

problems with mold. (a bad landlord might sue them for telling them, I found

out the other day!!!?!)

On 10/10/07, cmross428 <cmross428@...> wrote:

>

> Hello,

>

> At present, I live in a moldy home that is making me ill. The problem

> is, I live in a damp area and homes are often moldy. (Please - no

> suggestions that I move out of the area - I don't have the money).

>

> What can I do to make sure that my next home will not be moldy? You

> can't always smell mold. Mold detection companies have told me that

> they will charge $500 just to see if mold is a problem in an apartment.

>

> Yes, I know about those cheapie $20 mold kits. But they take 2 weeks to

> work, and by then, the lease will be signed.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>