Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 When I saw the question earlier today about ionizing purifiers and ozone, I thought perhaps the one I've had my eye on would meet the test - so I wrote to the representative I met to ask. You can find these machines at http://www.livingairpurifier.net/ -Haley Hi Haley, Great question... Fortunately, (for us), we are the ONLY unit on the marketplace that spent the money in Research & Development and can now boast to the public... that we can do a 3000 sq foot house with NO OZONE using our new FRESH AIR (You do need ozone on our older units...the Classic, or the Breeze, or the Flair)... but not with the new (improved) FRESH AIR. In fact, on the new FRESH AIR, the NORMAL MODE is indeed exactly what you were asking about ... NO OZONE... yet the ozone is still an option for those that want LOW or MEDIUM levels of Ozone... or they can simply use the Digital Timer AWAY mode (aka: Digital Timer SANITIZE mode) when no-one is home if they want to. The good news for those that want to use that Digital Timer mode is... Ozone has a very short half-life and will dissipate entirely by the time the unit times itself out and goes back to the NORMAL (no ozone) SETTING before they get back home... they can choose the timer to be set from 2-8 hours Some people never use this mode and just use NORMAL all the time !!! We now have the most versatile and definitely the most effective machine on the planet. (Now days I should say.. In the UNIVERSE as we were SPACE CERTIFIED by NASA & the US Space Foundation late last year. (You likely already know we're in the Pentagon from our radio commercials) We're now also used by Hospitals, Universities, the US Army, Fire Departments, Red Cross Shelters and in all the Gelsons markets in California. (High end Super-Market). Give me a call & I'll give you a quick run-down (or email me your phone # and I'll call you on my dime) as I'm a terrible typist... this email took me forever to type. Very Best Regards, Larry Share Living Air / FRESH AIR Purifiers 805-499-8688 or cell 818-515-8285 www.EcoQuest.com/share P.S. MY SON IS OFF HIS ALLERGY INHALERS & I'M OFF MY FLONASE, CLARITIN, and Albuterol spray as well. (Now you know why I'm so passionate about the technology) Larry- I'm curious if you can tell me about whether the FreshAir products produce Ozone like other ionizers - I'm on a listserv with folks who have environmental sensitivities, and they are cautious about products that produce ozone because of asthma. Thank you, -Haley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Haley, Thank you, I think. lol For enlightening the rest of us, especially with what this salesman had to say. EcoQuest and LivingAir, my personal thoughts, I would not have anything to do with them. This machine does admit ozone, and so do ionizers, look in the owners manuel and then go electronics. Something that was omitted in his letter. I would hope that Carl Grimes or Greg Weatherman will comment on this. They also give ozone another name, if I am not mistaken, they call photohydrogenization (sp). Just another sneaky way to get by consumers. When you really have to dig for the information, when really it should be all up front, it makes me very suspicious and I forgot to check the price, but I betya it's between $500-700. Just be careful. A salemen just tried selling me one also, by Shackley and swore it didn't produce ozone and he wasn't sure, but it had no filter. Well, lo and behold it did produce ozone.. Take care, KC > > When I saw the question earlier today about ionizing purifiers and ozone, I thought perhaps the one I've had my eye on would meet the test - so I wrote to the representative I met to ask. > > You can find these machines at http://www.livingairpurifier.net/ > > -Haley > > Hi Haley, > Great question... > Fortunately, (for us), we are the ONLY unit on the marketplace that spent the money in Research & Development and can now boast to the public... that we can do a 3000 sq foot house with NO OZONE using our new FRESH AIR (You do need ozone on our older units...the Classic, or the Breeze, or the Flair)... but not with the new (improved) FRESH AIR. In fact, on the new FRESH AIR, the NORMAL MODE is indeed exactly what you were asking about ... NO OZONE... yet the ozone is still an option for those that want LOW or MEDIUM levels of Ozone... or they can simply use the Digital Timer AWAY mode (aka: Digital Timer SANITIZE mode) when no-one is home if they want to. The good news for those that want to use that Digital Timer mode is... Ozone has a very short half-life and will dissipate entirely by the time the unit times itself out and goes back to the NORMAL (no ozone) SETTING before they get back home... they can choose the timer to be set from 2-8 hours Some people never use this mode > and just use NORMAL all the time !!! We now have the most versatile and definitely the most effective machine on the planet. (Now days I should say.. In the UNIVERSE as we were SPACE CERTIFIED by NASA & the US Space Foundation late last year. (You likely already know we're in the Pentagon from our radio commercials) We're now also used by Hospitals, Universities, the US Army, Fire Departments, Red Cross Shelters and in all the Gelsons markets in California. (High end Super-Market). > Give me a call & I'll give you a quick run-down (or email me your phone # and I'll call you on my dime) as I'm a terrible typist... this email took me forever to type. > Very Best Regards, > Larry Share > Living Air / FRESH AIR Purifiers > 805-499-8688 or cell 818-515-8285 > www.EcoQuest.com/share > P.S. MY SON IS OFF HIS ALLERGY INHALERS & I'M OFF MY FLONASE, CLARITIN, and Albuterol spray as well. > (Now you know why I'm so passionate about the technology) > > > Larry- > > I'm curious if you can tell me about whether the FreshAir products produce Ozone like other ionizers - I'm on a listserv with folks who have environmental sensitivities, and they are cautious about products that produce ozone because of asthma. > > Thank you, > > -Haley > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Heh - I'm off my claritin, too. Once I got out of the moldy building and started getting treated for the toxins, my " allergies " vanished into...um...thin air. Turns out, I test negative for mold allergies altogether. Funny how that works. Even better, since I'm just about rid of the staph infections that were resident in my sinuses for I don't even remember how many years, based on the symptoms. But I'm guessing 30 years of itchy, stuffy nose. Nothing against clean air, of course. I'm just sayin'...every doctor I saw in all those years was perfectly willing to say " allergies " . Not a single one checked for staph. I wonder how many other people are wandering around thinking they have allergies that don't exist. Everyone I know seems to eat antahistamines like candy. Serena www.freeboards.net/index.php?mforum=sickgovernmentb --------------------------------- Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 KC, If I remember correctly, you posted an excellent description of the ozone problem complete with links, etc, including the Alpine-EcoQuest- Living Air connection and court decisions. People shouldn't be exposed to ozone any more than they should be to mold growth. We should be making decisions based on the best info we have and that rarely comes from the manufacturers and salespeople of ozone producing devices. They provide the words you want to hear, not the words you need to hear. There is a recent post that is a perfect example of this. If it doesn't move air with a fan through a filtering device it probably isn't removing much of anything, certainly not at a rate equivalent to the ones that do. You waste a lot of money on appearance and false hope. Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > Haley, > > Thank you, I think. lol For enlightening the rest of us, especially > with what this salesman had to say. EcoQuest and LivingAir, my > personal thoughts, I would not have anything to do with them. This > machine does admit ozone, and so do ionizers, look in the owners > manuel and then go electronics. Something that was omitted in his > letter. > > I would hope that Carl Grimes or Greg Weatherman will comment on this. > They also give ozone another name, if I am not mistaken, they call > photohydrogenization (sp). Just another sneaky way to get by > consumers. When you really have to dig for the information, when > really it should be all up front, it makes me very suspicious and I > forgot to check the price, but I betya it's between $500-700. > > Just be careful. A salemen just tried selling me one also, by > Shackley and swore it didn't produce ozone and he wasn't sure, but it > had no filter. Well, lo and behold it did produce ozone.. > > Take care, > > KC > > > > > When I saw the question earlier today about ionizing purifiers and > ozone, I thought perhaps the one I've had my eye on would meet the > test - so I wrote to the representative I met to ask. > > You can > find these machines at http://www.livingairpurifier.net/ > > -Haley > > > Hi Haley, > Great question... > Fortunately, (for us), we are the > ONLY unit on the marketplace that spent the money in Research & > Development and can now boast to the public... that we can do a 3000 > sq foot house with NO OZONE using our new FRESH AIR (You do need ozone > on our older units...the Classic, or the Breeze, or the Flair)... but > not with the new (improved) FRESH AIR. In fact, on the new FRESH AIR, > the NORMAL MODE is indeed exactly what you were asking about ... NO > OZONE... yet the ozone is still an option for those that want LOW or > MEDIUM levels of Ozone... or they can simply use the Digital Timer > AWAY mode (aka: Digital Timer SANITIZE mode) when no-one is home if > they want to. The good news for those that want to use that Digital > Timer mode is... Ozone has a very short half-life and will dissipate > entirely by the time the unit times itself out and goes back to the > NORMAL (no ozone) SETTING before they get back home... they can choose > the timer to be set from 2-8 hours Some people never use this mode > > and just use NORMAL all the time !!! We now have the most versatile > and definitely the most effective machine on the planet. (Now days I > should say.. In the UNIVERSE as we were SPACE CERTIFIED by NASA & the > US Space Foundation late last year. (You likely already know we're in > the Pentagon from our radio commercials) We're now also used by > Hospitals, Universities, the US Army, Fire Departments, Red Cross > Shelters and in all the Gelsons markets in California. (High end > Super-Market). > Give me a call & I'll give you a quick run-down (or > email me your phone # and I'll call you on my dime) as I'm a terrible > typist... this email took me forever to type. > Very Best Regards, > > Larry Share > Living Air / FRESH AIR Purifiers > 805-499-8688 or cell > 818-515-8285 > www.EcoQuest.com/share > P.S. MY SON IS OFF HIS > ALLERGY INHALERS & I'M OFF MY FLONASE, CLARITIN, and Albuterol spray > as well. > (Now you know why I'm so passionate about the technology) > > > > Larry- > > I'm curious if you can tell me about whether the > FreshAir products produce Ozone like other ionizers - I'm on a > listserv with folks who have environmental sensitivities, and they are > cautious about products that produce ozone because of asthma. > > > Thank you, > > -Haley > > [Non-text portions of this message have > been removed] > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 If it works so great without the ozone, why pollute the air by turning on the ozone switch? Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > When I saw the question earlier today about ionizing purifiers and > ozone, I thought perhaps the one I've had my eye on would meet the > test - so I wrote to the representative I met to ask. > > You can find these machines at http://www.livingairpurifier.net/ > > -Haley > > Hi Haley, > Great question... > Fortunately, (for us), we are the ONLY unit on the marketplace that > spent the money in Research & Development and can now boast to the > public... that we can do a 3000 sq foot house with NO OZONE using our > new FRESH AIR (You do need ozone on our older units...the Classic, or > the Breeze, or the Flair)... but not with the new (improved) FRESH > AIR. In fact, on the new FRESH AIR, the NORMAL MODE is indeed exactly > what you were asking about ... NO OZONE... yet the ozone is still an > option for those that want LOW or MEDIUM levels of Ozone... or they > can simply use the Digital Timer AWAY mode (aka: Digital Timer > SANITIZE mode) when no-one is home if they want to. The good news for > those that want to use that Digital Timer mode is... Ozone has a very > short half-life and will dissipate entirely by the time the unit times > itself out and goes back to the NORMAL (no ozone) SETTING before they > get back home... they can choose the timer to be set from 2-8 hours > Some people never use this mode > and just use NORMAL all the time !!! We now have the most versatile > and definitely the most effective machine on the planet. (Now days I > should say.. In the UNIVERSE as we were SPACE CERTIFIED by NASA & the > US Space Foundation late last year. (You likely already know we're > in the Pentagon from our radio commercials) We're now also used by > Hospitals, Universities, the US Army, Fire Departments, Red Cross > Shelters and in all the Gelsons markets in California. (High end > Super-Market). > Give me a call & I'll give you a quick run-down (or email me your > phone # and I'll call you on my dime) as I'm a terrible typist... this > email took me forever to type. Very Best Regards, Larry Share Living > Air / FRESH AIR Purifiers 805-499-8688 or cell 818-515-8285 > www.EcoQuest.com/share P.S. MY SON IS OFF HIS ALLERGY INHALERS & I'M > OFF MY FLONASE, CLARITIN, and Albuterol spray as well. (Now you know > why I'm so passionate about the technology) > > > Larry- > > I'm curious if you can tell me about whether the FreshAir products > produce Ozone like other ionizers - I'm on a listserv with folks who > have environmental sensitivities, and they are cautious about products > that produce ozone because of asthma. > > Thank you, > > -Haley > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 > If it works so great without the ozone, why pollute the air by > turning on the ozone switch? > > Carl Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > Thank you Carl for your words of wisdom. A few years ago I saw a local ad for Oreck's air purifiers, buy one get one free. The ad was impressive, went to the local store and saw a demonstration and decided this is exactly what we need for our home. I like the idea that we didn't have to purchase expensive charcoal canisters periodically. And the salesman said the ionizer is safe. Took my two units home (he even gave me 1/2 off the first model), plugged them in with the ionizer on as was instructed. First couple of days I was pleased with the results then I started having respiratory problems and could smell the ionizer. Decided to turn it off. Soon I had dust everywhere and I called the store and also Oreck's Technical Department. They told me the model is not very efficient without the ionizer and I should have been told to keep it running to reduce the dust levels. Just my own experience with these units. The Sharper Image model is the same and just walking into Sharper Image causes distress. Talking to one of the local managers who was " honest " he said a number of people have complained and returned the units. Buyer be aware! Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Carl, In my quest to clean the air coming into the house, I found a UV light and special filter that is set up so that it is attached to the air system close to where the air comes from the outside. (This is NOT my area of expertise so I am not very literate in describing it.) What do you know about this system if anything? Has anyone else heard about this system? Bobbie > > > > When I saw the question earlier today about ionizing purifiers and > > ozone, I thought perhaps the one I've had my eye on would meet the > > test - so I wrote to the representative I met to ask. > > You can > > find these machines at http://www.livingairpurifier.net/ > > -Haley > > > > Hi Haley, > Great question... > Fortunately, (for us), we are the > > ONLY unit on the marketplace that spent the money in Research & > > Development and can now boast to the public... that we can do a 3000 > > sq foot house with NO OZONE using our new FRESH AIR (You do need ozone > > on our older units...the Classic, or the Breeze, or the Flair)... but > > not with the new (improved) FRESH AIR. In fact, on the new FRESH AIR, > > the NORMAL MODE is indeed exactly what you were asking about ... NO > > OZONE... yet the ozone is still an option for those that want LOW or > > MEDIUM levels of Ozone... or they can simply use the Digital Timer > > AWAY mode (aka: Digital Timer SANITIZE mode) when no-one is home if > > they want to. The good news for those that want to use that Digital > > Timer mode is... Ozone has a very short half-life and will dissipate > > entirely by the time the unit times itself out and goes back to the > > NORMAL (no ozone) SETTING before they get back home... they can choose > > the timer to be set from 2-8 hours Some people never use this mode > > > and just use NORMAL all the time !!! We now have the most versatile > > and definitely the most effective machine on the planet. (Now days I > > should say.. In the UNIVERSE as we were SPACE CERTIFIED by NASA & the > > US Space Foundation late last year. (You likely already know we're in > > the Pentagon from our radio commercials) We're now also used by > > Hospitals, Universities, the US Army, Fire Departments, Red Cross > > Shelters and in all the Gelsons markets in California. (High end > > Super-Market). > Give me a call & I'll give you a quick run-down (or > > email me your phone # and I'll call you on my dime) as I'm a terrible > > typist... this email took me forever to type. > Very Best Regards, > > > Larry Share > Living Air / FRESH AIR Purifiers > 805-499-8688 or cell > > 818-515-8285 > www.EcoQuest.com/share > P.S. MY SON IS OFF HIS > > ALLERGY INHALERS & I'M OFF MY FLONASE, CLARITIN, and Albuterol spray > > as well. > (Now you know why I'm so passionate about the technology) > > > > > Larry- > > I'm curious if you can tell me about whether the > > FreshAir products produce Ozone like other ionizers - I'm on a > > listserv with folks who have environmental sensitivities, and they are > > cautious about products that produce ozone because of asthma. > > > > Thank you, > > -Haley > > [Non-text portions of this message have > > been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Bobbie, I'm familiar with UV inside the furnace ducting and inside room sized purifiers but not like you describe for outside air. Is there a name or brand? I haven't been impressed with UV for the simple reason it doesn't do what is claimed and what we want - stopping our reactions to mold and other pollutants from the air. UV can kill bacteria and mold IF the light is strong enough and the exposure is long enough. How long? Data from Penn State several years ago showed 0.1 to 2 seconds for many bacteria but 5 seconds to over 7 minutes for mold! More recently Trane (furnace) has an official position that they don't suppport it: www.trane.com/commercial/issues/iaq/TraneUVCposition.pdf although others do. So the question becomes, does the mold and bacteria move slooooooowly across the 18-24 inch field of UV light as it travels along at around 1200 CFM to be killed? Not nearly. It whizzes by in much, much less than one second - which is certainly not nearly the minimum 5 seconds to several minutes necessary for mold. Similar limitations apply to chemicals in the air. It doesn't remove anything so it won't help with dust, dander, pollen and other particles. Another claim for UV in furnaces is the light prevents mold growth because it shines on the cooling coils all the time (Trane questions this, also). This has more plausibility but there are severe limitations the major one being shadows. Light doesn't bend around corners so it would take an array of UV lights on both sides, top and bottom, inside and out to shine on most of the surfaces. I'm not aware of any systems that extensive. If someone does, please correct me. UV in room air purifiers are supposed to " sanitize " the filter by killing mold and bacteria. If it is a HEPA filter then why kill the mold and bacteria? They are removed from the air and can't get through the tiny pores of the HEPA media. However, it may be of benefit if killing it stops the generation of VOCs and mycotoxins which are small enough to flow through the tiny pores. They could increase as the mold accumulates. On the other hand, the air moving across the HEPA usually dries and desiccates the mold and bacteria sufficiently to kill it anyway and stop the generation of those. On the other-other hand, it might be able to break down the chemicals. As you can tell, I don't have a good handle on this last issue. Anybody have any info? Jeff? Finally, as has been cussed and discussed here and elsewhere ad- nauseum, why kill mold spores if it doesn't stop the reactivity? They still needs to be removed. So, we are back to appropriate duct cleaning and proper filters like those already mentioned. Oh, I almost forgot, most UV lights generate low level ozone (see the Trane statement, also). Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC ----- > Carl, > > In my quest to clean the air coming into the house, I found a UV light > and special filter that is set up so that it is attached to the air > system close to where the air comes from the outside. (This is NOT my > area of expertise so I am not very literate in describing it.) What > do you know about this system if anything? Has anyone else heard > about this system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Carl, Thank you for your reply. The system is Lenox Signature Collection, Healthy Climate, PCO-12C/20C Pure Air, Air purification System. http://www.lennox.com/products/ overview.asp?model=PCO. The UV light is built into a box with the filter. The light stays on 24/7. There is also humidity control that they installed so that my humidity in the house does not go above 60%. It has made a difference in the house air quality and I am less reactive. I am going to move to AZ soon for 6 months to escape the East Coast humidity and I want to put something on that system as well. We use a heat pump here, but I am sure it is not used there. My concern with the ventilation system there is from condensation of the air conditioner running so much. I am not sure that this system will be of the same benefit there as it is here. Any ideas will be appreciated. Bobbie > > Bobbie, > > I'm familiar with UV inside the furnace ducting and inside room sized > purifiers but not like you describe for outside air. Is there a name > or brand? > > I haven't been impressed with UV for the simple reason it doesn't do > what is claimed and what we want - stopping our reactions to mold and > other pollutants from the air. UV can kill bacteria and mold IF the > light is strong enough and the exposure is long enough. How long? > Data from Penn State several years ago showed 0.1 to 2 seconds for > many bacteria but 5 seconds to over 7 minutes for mold! More recently > Trane (furnace) has an official position that they don't suppport it: > www.trane.com/commercial/issues/iaq/TraneUVCposition.pdf > although others do. > > So the question becomes, does the mold and bacteria move slooooooowly > across the 18-24 inch field of UV light as it travels along at around > 1200 CFM to be killed? Not nearly. It whizzes by in much, much less > than one second - which is certainly not nearly the minimum 5 seconds > to several minutes necessary for mold. Similar limitations apply to > chemicals in the air. It doesn't remove anything so it won't help > with dust, dander, pollen and other particles. > > Another claim for UV in furnaces is the light prevents mold growth > because it shines on the cooling coils all the time (Trane questions > this, also). This has more plausibility but there are severe > limitations the major one being shadows. Light doesn't bend around > corners so it would take an array of UV lights on both sides, top and > bottom, inside and out to shine on most of the surfaces. I'm not > aware of any systems that extensive. If someone does, please correct > me. > > UV in room air purifiers are supposed to " sanitize " the filter by > killing mold and bacteria. If it is a HEPA filter then why kill the > mold and bacteria? They are removed from the air and can't get > through the tiny pores of the HEPA media. > > However, it may be of benefit if killing it stops the generation of > VOCs and mycotoxins which are small enough to flow through the tiny > pores. They could increase as the mold accumulates. On the other > hand, the air moving across the HEPA usually dries and desiccates the > mold and bacteria sufficiently to kill it anyway and stop the > generation of those. On the other-other hand, it might be able to > break down the chemicals. > > As you can tell, I don't have a good handle on this last issue. > Anybody have any info? Jeff? > > Finally, as has been cussed and discussed here and elsewhere ad- > nauseum, why kill mold spores if it doesn't stop the reactivity? They > still needs to be removed. So, we are back to appropriate duct > cleaning and proper filters like those already mentioned. > > Oh, I almost forgot, most UV lights generate low level ozone (see the > Trane statement, also). > > Carl Grimes > Healthy Habitats LLC > > ----- > > Carl, > > > > In my quest to clean the air coming into the house, I found a UV light > > and special filter that is set up so that it is attached to the air > > system close to where the air comes from the outside. (This is NOT my > > area of expertise so I am not very literate in describing it.) What > > do you know about this system if anything? Has anyone else heard > > about this system? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Hi Bobbie, I too have Lennox's Pure air system. It shines UV light on a titanium grid which acts as a catylist to kill molds without ozone. I suppose the UV on the filter helps stop mold growth too. The filter it comes with is only a MERV 8. I had a company custom make me a MERV 11(because Lennox had to use an odd size to sell their OEM filters of course). The aftermarket filter was made much like the Lennox filter, but was not a thick, more like 3 3/4 instead of 4 inch. I found another company which makes a MERV 15 filter from plastic and it is a full 4 inch filter, their custom filter was really two filters glued together, but it worked fine. I had originally put one of them on my dehumidifier which did not need anything custom made and was very impressed with the quality in construction, I have the link a few posts back. I also put weatherstripping around the filter to keep bypass down. The dehumidifier on the Lennox heat pump and signature stat only goes down to 45%. That would be fine but their readings are 6-10% off from two of my own digital humidistats which puts the humidity well over 50%. Summertime is hard to keep humidity below 50% especially when I have 24 hour fresh air being brought in through a heat to heat air exchanger. The dealer installed another signature stat but it was the same 6-10% higher reading. I called the company to see if anything could be adjusted to put the humidity lower, it could not. So to fool the stat, I put a small piece of wet paper towel under it to kick it the dehumidifing mode. Here I have close to $10000 invested and I have to put a wet paper towel on it. It does work great to bring humidity down, very fast. I have a big dehumidifier because 2004 was such a cold summer the heat pump hardly needed to run and would get too cold before it could bring humidity down. There is a company which makes coils that bypass going outside and heat the return side of your air handler to dehumidify better, I would have rather had that. Since the Lennox DC variable fan is so quiet and slow when no heat or cold is called for, I suggest you turn it to be on all the time so as to keep your coils dry and moving air hinders growth of molds and bacteria. Thanks, Fletch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Thanks Fletch. I know the humidstat is off. I can feel it. Can you forward the companies that custom make your filters? Bobbie > > Hi Bobbie, > > I too have Lennox's Pure air system. It shines UV light on a > titanium grid which acts as a catylist to kill molds without ozone. > I suppose the UV on the filter helps stop mold growth too. The > filter it comes with is only a MERV 8. I had a company custom make > me a MERV 11(because Lennox had to use an odd size to sell their OEM > filters of course). The aftermarket filter was made much like the > Lennox filter, but was not a thick, more like 3 3/4 instead of 4 > inch. I found another company which makes a MERV 15 filter from > plastic and it is a full 4 inch filter, their custom filter was > really two filters glued together, but it worked fine. I had > originally put one of them on my dehumidifier which did not need > anything custom made and was very impressed with the quality in > construction, I have the link a few posts back. I also put > weatherstripping around the filter to keep bypass down. > > The dehumidifier on the Lennox heat pump and signature stat only > goes down to 45%. That would be fine but their readings are 6-10% > off from two of my own digital humidistats which puts the humidity > well over 50%. Summertime is hard to keep humidity below 50% > especially when I have 24 hour fresh air being brought in through a > heat to heat air exchanger. The dealer installed another signature > stat but it was the same 6-10% higher reading. I called the company > to see if anything could be adjusted to put the humidity lower, it > could not. So to fool the stat, I put a small piece of wet paper > towel under it to kick it the dehumidifing mode. Here I have close > to $10000 invested and I have to put a wet paper towel on it. It > does work great to bring humidity down, very fast. I have a big > dehumidifier because 2004 was such a cold summer the heat pump > hardly needed to run and would get too cold before it could bring > humidity down. There is a company which makes coils that bypass > going outside and heat the return side of your air handler to > dehumidify better, I would have rather had that. > > Since the Lennox DC variable fan is so quiet and slow when no heat > or cold is called for, I suggest you turn it to be on all the time > so as to keep your coils dry and moving air hinders growth of molds > and bacteria. > > Thanks, > Fletch > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Here is the link Bobby, I see the company would not custom build the size needed for their school, maybe it was odd among the odd sizes? http://www.filtera-b2b.com/businessfilters/minipleat.htm#merv15 Fletch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Thank you! > > Here is the link Bobby, I see the company would not custom build the > size needed for their school, maybe it was odd among the odd > sizes? > > http://www.filtera-b2b.com/businessfilters/minipleat.htm#merv15 > > Fletch > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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