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SOMEBODY TOLD ME THAT MYCOTOXINS " RIDE " ON DUST......MAKES SENSE TO ME.

VICTORIA

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> I hope you have a really great climb!

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> I paused in our Trader Joe's tonight, while reading the label of the

> coffee offered for tasting. It is grown at 5,200 ft. in Papua, New Guinea.

> I know nothing of the country or environment, but I had a wonderful

> wondering what it feels like up there...if as fresh and pristine as my

> fantasy would like!

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> Due to my current treatment and management, I have " windows " of

> healing/well being enough to actually return some small hope of someday

> again transporting myself to such an environment...for further healing and

> Joy.

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> I am not familiar enough with this group to know the specifics you are

> referring to. But am, as you know, completely used to lists which include

> mild, moderate, severe sufferers, and corresponding theories and

> solutions that often mix apples and oranges!

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> So, anyway, do you have opinion or knowledge of any relationship between

> dust and mold?

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> Thanks,

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> Katrina

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>> Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are irrelevant

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>> Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all doctors

>> refused to research.

>> And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that Moldies

>> are treated with abuse similar to CFS.

>> Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that they

>> cannot understand what is being described.

>> I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain climbing,

>> but when I get back, I'll be in touch.

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I would like to just put a quick comment in here on this dust and mold

subject. 2 weeks ago I had to pull the kids out of school as they were both

getting sick. But, only at school. As many of you know we went thru this

last year with our portable.

The district agreed to get the school tested, as my daughters 504 states,

she must attend a mold free environment.

The district allowed me to talk to the company that would be doing the

testing. To make sure it was done properly. I had only asked for the kids

2 rooms to be tested. While talking to the inspector, and after talking to

KC and Sharon, I asked that they take lifts out of the ducts and HVAC unit.

To our surprise, no alarming #'s of mold found in the classrooms. But, the

duct work and HVAC (the dust samples) came back around 50% mold.

So, everytime that HVAC would come on they would get a face full of it.

Now had we just did air samples in the rooms, we would not know that the

HVAC was loaded with it, making the kids sick.

Just thought I'd share that with all of you.

I'll also add, that last year I requested a test in the new part of the

school that runs on a separate unit, and is separate from the old part of

the school. It was clear. So the district will be bringing in a tutor for

the kids starting Monday morning, and they can get back to school. Then

after the old part of the school is cleaned they will return to their normal

routine, after we get clearance testing and it is negative.

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>> Hi ,

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>> I hope you have a really great climb!

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>> I paused in our Trader Joe's tonight, while reading the label of the

>> coffee offered for tasting. It is grown at 5,200 ft. in Papua, New

>> Guinea.

>> I know nothing of the country or environment, but I had a wonderful

>> wondering what it feels like up there...if as fresh and pristine as my

>> fantasy would like!

>>

>> Due to my current treatment and management, I have " windows " of

>> healing/well being enough to actually return some small hope of someday

>> again transporting myself to such an environment...for further healing

>> and

>> Joy.

>>

>> I am not familiar enough with this group to know the specifics you are

>> referring to. But am, as you know, completely used to lists which include

>> mild, moderate, severe sufferers, and corresponding theories and

>> solutions that often mix apples and oranges!

>>

>> So, anyway, do you have opinion or knowledge of any relationship between

>> dust and mold?

>>

>> Thanks,

>>

>> Katrina

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>>> Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are irrelevant

>>> to someone at my level of reactivity.

>>> Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all doctors

>>> refused to research.

>>> And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that Moldies

>>> are treated with abuse similar to CFS.

>>> Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that they

>>> cannot understand what is being described.

>>> I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain climbing,

>>> but when I get back, I'll be in touch.

>>> -

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question, gang: has anybody else's BP been DANGEROUSLY low after exposure?

my BP dropped to the 60/40 level just after onset.

take care, all....... & BE WELL!

victoria

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>> > > Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all

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>> > > And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that

> Moldies

>> > > are treated with abuse similar to CFS.

>> > > Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that

> they

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>> > > I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain

>> > climbing,

>> > > but when I get back, I'll be in touch.

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Yes , my BP dropped to a low level and my doctor pulled me out

of work after I passed out. I had rapid heart rate and broke out in a

drenching sweat and plop...landed right on the floor

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The same thing happened to me only Drs. thought I was having a heart attact.

My PB was low, I was sweating, racing heart, my chest felt like it had

bricks sitting on it & felt faint. Heart cath proved my heart to be in

excellent

condition, SO I was told it was stress & given lexapro!! A yr. and a half

later I found out what the REAL problem was. No longer at the school, am a pt.

of Dr. Shoemaker's and feeling 100% better!! Haven't even had a common cold

since I left 2 yrs. ago!!!!

Sue

Yes , my BP dropped to a low level and my doctor pulled me out

of work after I passed out. I had rapid heart rate and broke out in a

drenching sweat and plop...landed right on the floor.

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I was exposed to toxic mold in my school and was sick all the time. Any

easy way to find out if you have a toxic illness is go to

_www.chronicneurotoxins.com_ (http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com) and take the

VCS test. It is

only $8.95 and 98% accurate!!!

Sue

Sue, What was the REAL problem, what caused your symptoms, what did

they tell you? My doc said mine was low potassium but now that my K

level is up, I am still having problems with BP ( it is lower),

chest pain and tender belly but my IBS has disappeared totally

(thank GOD).

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THANKS!

VICTORIA

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> Yep- sounds like mine. I used to get 80/50 regularly, dizzy, tired,

> couldn't move off the

> couch, but once in a while it would get as low as yours. I used to drive

> over to my Chinese

> Acupuncturist when it happened, she could get me adjusted, not to normal,

> which is

> where I am now, but better.

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>> >> > > Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all

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>> > Moldies

>> >> > > are treated with abuse similar to CFS.

>> >> > > Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that

>> > they

>> >> > > cannot understand what is being described.

>> >> > > I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain

>> >> > climbing,

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THANKS, MARY.

VICTORIA (AKA VICTORY?)

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> Yes , my BP dropped to a low level and my doctor pulled me out

> of work after I passed out. I had rapid heart rate and broke out in a

> drenching sweat and plop...landed right on the floor.

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> Take care, SW

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>> question, gang: has anybody else's BP been DANGEROUSLY low after

> exposure?

>> my BP dropped to the 60/40 level just after onset.

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>> take care, all....... & BE WELL!

>> victoria

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THANKS, BOBBIE.

V.

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>> >> > > Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all

>> > doctors

>> >> > > refused to research.

>> >> > > And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that

>> > Moldies

>> >> > > are treated with abuse similar to CFS.

>> >> > > Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that

>> > they

>> >> > > cannot understand what is being described.

>> >> > > I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain

>> >> > climbing,

>> >> > > but when I get back, I'll be in touch.

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When I was first exposed it spiked to 194/120. Then I started on BP meds. I had

the doc lower the dose because my BP starting dropping very low. Was in the

hospital with chest pains a few weeks ago and my BP was 51/33. They ran blood

test and I had very ,very low potassium levels. After my last IVIG treatment on

the 5th, it went to 111/69. A little better. :-)

Marcie

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THANKS, BOBBIE.

V.

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>> >> > > Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are

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>> >> > > Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all

>> > doctors

>> >> > > refused to research.

>> >> > > And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that

>> > Moldies

>> >> > > are treated with abuse similar to CFS.

>> >> > > Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that

>> > they

>> >> > > cannot understand what is being described.

>> >> > > I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain

>> >> > climbing,

>> >> > > but when I get back, I'll be in touch.

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THAT'S GOOD BP, 111/69, MARCIE. I'M GLAD TO HEAR ITS BETTER.

MY BP INITIALLY WAS LIKE 160/100, DUE TO THE INTENSEEEEEEEEEE PAIN. LATER

IT DROPPED TO 64/40.......BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SAME SCENARIO, THE

SAME SITUATION HERE. YOUR PROBLEMS STEMMED FROM K+ LEVELS......MINE WAS

FROM CNS DAMAGE.

TAKE CARE, HON, & GOD BLESS,

VICTORIA

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>>> >> > > Katrina, the concepts being discussed in this group are

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>>> >> > > Which is the effect I saw in other CFSers in Incline that all

>>> > doctors

>>> >> > > refused to research.

>>> >> > > And regarding 'that other group', I think you will find that

>>> > Moldies

>>> >> > > are treated with abuse similar to CFS.

>>> >> > > Even despite the inability of doctors to make the excuse that

>>> > they

>>> >> > > cannot understand what is being described.

>>> >> > > I'm on my way back to Mt Whitney for a little Fall mountain

>>> >> > climbing,

>>> >> > > but when I get back, I'll be in touch.

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  • 3 months later...

, Exposure to toxic molds can cause problems to multiple organs &

systems, including neurological, respiratory, & immunological. I had horrible

muscle and joint pain, knife like pains in my legs, coma like fatigue, chronic

sinus/allergy problems, laryngitis, blinding headaches, GI problems, shortness

of breath, blurred vision, slurred speech, dizziness, muscle twitches,

memory loss, itchy crawly skin, numbness/tingling, racing heart, chest

tightness,

the list goes on and on.

Sue, I guess what I meant was How did the toxic mold cause these

symptoms? What organs did they affect? The Heart? Liver? Kidney?

What organ(s) was affected by toxins that causes your heart to race

and BP to go so low? I do plan on taking the VCS test but $$$ is

tight right now (I'm a single parent)

SW

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