Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 Dear , I am sorry that you aren't feeling better. Remember that your health comes first so get some rest. We will always be here for you :-). I am saying prayers now that you feel better. I think my mother-in-law has passed on her direct link to God onto me. I hope so! Anyway, I am in Ohio. I live in the Lima area if you know where that is. Where are you in West Virginia? My Grandfather was born there. My Grandmother lives around Cleveland so she is not too far from the border. I have been there a a few times myself. Take Care, Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2000 Report Share Posted April 30, 2000 Bonhoff wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have just taken my measurements after my first month seriously exercising > after almost a year, > > I have only lost a 1/4 of an inch over all and I have gained a pound. > However my lean body mass increased to 89 pounds and my body fat stayed at > 23%. > > I tried to do a modified 21 day challenge of just exercising in some way > shape or form but only made it to day 18. I started again last Monday and > am still going strong! > > Thanks for all the motivation and I hope to have more time to participate > in the next few months. > > Pat, > who is has just finished the studio Basic and is going to go out and enjoy > the sunshine while her three year old is still sleeping! > >Pat, congratulations on the loss! I love your attitude about the 21DC -- just jump back in there and start another one. Keep it up. Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2000 Report Share Posted April 30, 2000 Jen, Know how you feel in my second week of new round. Found a new person to start the BFL program tomorrow sitting down with him today to put together his goal and game plan for the next 12 weeks. Much success to you on your journey to a better you. Walt. : )) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2000 Report Share Posted April 30, 2000 Good luck Jen, I'm starting a new round tomorrow too. Is it me or have we got three Jen's now? Leaner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2000 Report Share Posted May 23, 2000 Way to go. I'll be you'll be at your goal in the next couple of weeks if you keep it up this way. Did you get the recipes you asked for? I posted them on Monday. Hope you like them. > So far today I have done 40 breaths with stretches and walked 2 miles. I will walk 2 more miles tonight with hubby and do 40 more breaths. > NM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2000 Report Share Posted May 24, 2000 Yes, Dear Texas Mom, I did get them, and they sound wonderful! Thank you so much. I haden't realized you got them from Suzanne Summers books. I have them both but haven't looked at them in a while. I do food combining though and sometimes get in a rut on my recipes. I especially can't wait to try the eggplant. YUMMMMMMMMMMMMM! As far as reaching my goal..........well I lose quite slowly. I still want to lose another 15 lbs or would settle for more inches. I am fluctuating between 6's and 8's but am only 5' 2 " so really need to be a 4 or 5. I will just keep plugging along and sooner or later it will happen. Thanks again for the recipes! God Bless, NM Re: checking in > Way to go. I'll be you'll be at your goal in the next couple of > weeks if you keep it up this way. Did you get the recipes you asked > for? I posted them on Monday. Hope you like them. > > > > So far today I have done 40 breaths with stretches and walked 2 > miles. I will walk 2 more miles tonight with hubby and do 40 more > breaths. > > NM > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Failed tests, classes skipped, forgotten locker combinations. > Remember the good 'ol days > 1/4053/1/_/812636/_/959111398/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Please use our list bookstore In Association with Amazon.com If you are looking for anything, please click on this link first! Thanks! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommerea > > If you choose to read the messages from the web, then you might be interested in getting paid to do it. http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ICA-586 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2000 Report Share Posted May 29, 2000 Just a question- How do you keep track of how many you do throughout the day? Melisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Hi Texas Mom, You little brat. I just love you. It makes my day when I see your posts. You're sooooooooooo ooooooooooooooo crazy just like me (Ha, Ha, Ha.) For your information, I did 93 LL breath stretches so far today. I'll be doing 10 more for my jelly belly before I go to bed. Have a great night! Don't forget to breath! Love and prayers from Cincinnati Liz ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Hi Melisa, I usually don't use a tape when I do my breathing. With small children it's easier to let them watch Barney or cartoons while I exercise. In the mornings I do 40 to 60 reps. I just count them as I go along, I do my blowing through the golden straw, sniff up and hold it, my pah, then my stretch or exercise while I'm holding my breath. Each one of these is one. I have 2 routines that I switch every other day. For example: today I did 10 belly flatteners (as I call them), 5 inner thigh exerc. on each leg, 5 outer thighs on each, 5 quad. stretches on each, 5 hamstring raises on each, and 10 face exercises. That's 60. This evening I did the leg circles, that Rashelle does on her videos, 3 on each leg front and side (12), the swinging of the leg that she does 3 on each leg, 5 moving the waist side to side, 5 waist twists, 5 back exercises and I'll do 10 more belly flatteners before going to bed. All together I'll do 103 today. I hope this helps. Have a good evening! Don't forget to breathe! Love and prayers from Cincinnati Liz ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 Well I had to give you a hard time because you report ONLY doing 60 breaths. But now, The EUBER LIZ is back! Do you find that the kids you watch do the breaths with you? My daughter is a hoot to watch. I'm going to get her the Oxygen Zoo to do. > Hi Texas Mom, > > You little brat. I just love you. It makes my day when I see your posts. > You're sooooooooooo > ooooooooooooooo crazy just like me (Ha, Ha, Ha.) For your information, I > did 93 LL breath stretches so far today. I'll be doing 10 more for my > jelly belly before I go to bed. > > Have a great night! Don't forget to breath! > > Love and prayers from Cincinnati > Liz > > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 You did better than me Liz, have you noticed that I have not even posted what I did over the weekend? I'm ashamed to say that I did not do even one set of breaths either Sat Sun or Mon. but was busy helping some dear friends pack and close up their house all day Sat. Then we had the privilge of having them stay in our home with us Sat. and Sun.and had a great visit between going through a couple boxes of kleenex, then we had a great goingaway party for them at the church before we had to watch them drive away Mon morning on their way to Dallas. (There's another good one for you Texas Mom). I did however walk eighteen holes on the golf couse Sunday afternoon and Monday morning. Does that help? Ok, Ok, I'll go breathe!!!!!!! Checking in > Hi everyone, > > I just wanted to let everyone know that I did 60 LL breath stretches on > Saturday and 40 today. I know, I know it's not my 100 that I've been > doing this past week. But it's a holiday weekend. Give me a break! (Ha Ha > Ha!) (LOL!) :-) I'll try again on Tuesday for 100, but no promises. > Tomorrow I'm going to my Mom's, but I'll try and do at least 40. > > Have a wonderful Memorial Day! Try and do some breathing, holiday or not. > Burn those calories. Breathe, Breathe, Breathe.....Pah, Pah, Pah, (:-o) > (<--somebody pah-ing) > > Love and prayers from Cincinnati > Liz > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Big Groups = big savings @ beMANY! > 1/4112/1/_/812636/_/959569127/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Please use our list bookstore In Association with Amazon.com If you are looking for anything, please click on this link first! Thanks! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommerea > > If you choose to read the messages from the web, then you might be interested in getting paid to do it. http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ICA-586 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 Cristi, That's what I used to like to do, but only during Softball practice. Walk and breath, walk and breath. It really seems to produce some great results! Sincerely, Tami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Wow sis, way to go!!!!!!!!!! 74 breaths AND 4 miles of walking! That's FANTASTIC!!!! Sounds to me like you're on your way to catching dear Liz :-) {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie **********************************************With God, ALL things are possible.********************************************** I did 64 breaths with stretches, 10 breaths in bathtub walked 4 miles Wow Liz! you're a hard act to follow. You're my new idol! You keep me motivated! Please use our list bookstore In Association with Amazon.com If you are looking for anything, please click on this link first! Thanks! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommereaIf you choose to read the messages from the web, then you might be interested in getting paid to do it. http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ICA-586 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Will be looking to hear from you Cristi :-) {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie **********************************************With God, ALL things are possible.********************************************** Okay, I've been bad about doing my breathingthroughout the day rather than a set time and doing 40breaths. And also, on the mornings that I don't walk(this is my quiet time with my hubby and God), I feellethargic, so tomorrow I want you to expect me to sayI got up and walked, did my breathing, and feel GREAT!Here's to tomorrow! (Today I'm breathing and walkingthe track during soccer practice)Cristi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 Sure is :-) Bonnie **********************************************With God, ALL things are possible.********************************************** I don't know if I have enough breath in me to catch Liz! LOL but that is a real goal, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2000 Report Share Posted June 2, 2000 I don't know if I have enough breath in me to catch Liz! LOL but that is a real goal, isn't it? Re: checking in Wow sis, way to go!!!!!!!!!! 74 breaths AND 4 miles of walking! That's FANTASTIC!!!! Sounds to me like you're on your way to catching dear Liz :-) {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie **********************************************With God, ALL things are possible.********************************************** I did 64 breaths with stretches, 10 breaths in bathtub walked 4 miles Wow Liz! you're a hard act to follow. You're my new idol! You keep me motivated! Please use our list bookstore In Association with Amazon.com If you are looking for anything, please click on this link first! Thanks! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommereaIf you choose to read the messages from the web, then you might be interested in getting paid to do it. http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=ICA-586 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2000 Report Share Posted June 5, 2000 Cristi, Whether you breath or don't breath doesn't make you worthless! Good grief sis. You are a very special lady and that is with or without LL!!! Our worthiness sure doesn't have a thing to do with LL or ANY exercise! {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie **********************************************With God, ALL things are possible.********************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2000 Report Share Posted June 6, 2000 Hi Cristi, I bet if you asked just about everyone on this list if they accidently got up a hour early (especially at 4:30 am), would they have exercised or went back to sleep. Most of us would say we would have gone back to sleep. Forgive yourself you're only human. You can always exercise later. Have a good day! Love and prayers from Cincinnati Liz ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2000 Report Share Posted June 7, 2000 Texas Mom, I bet you're gonna look great in that bathing suit! Good job on the breathing, you're an inspiration to us all. You know, I do the same thing as you have been finding yourself doing. I'll just be driving along or sitting at the computer, or doing whatever else I do during the day, and I find myself whipping out a few Life Lift breaths. Honestly and truly, this is the best thing you can do to boost muscle tone and inch loss. By doing a full workout and then a few sets of 5 or 10 breaths throughout the day, not only do you feed your body that wonderful oxygen, you keep your metabolism kicked up all day, and your body working at full fat burning speed. Sounds like a great time in Florida, let us know when your leaving, so we can all day dream and picture ourselves lounging by the sea, sipping tantalizing and exotic beverages! Sincerely, Tami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2000 Report Share Posted June 7, 2000 Hi Texas Mom, Where in Florida - I live in Pembroke Pines? Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2000 Report Share Posted June 22, 2000 It worked a little bit?????? I'd say it worked alot. 125 with stretches and 30 oxysize breaths? My goodness woman you're a machine!!! I'm just trying to get up the stamina to do 40!!!LOL Checking in > Hi everyone, > > Today I have been so tired. I felt like a walking zombie most of the > day. LOL I tried doing lots of breathing to get more energy. It worked > a little bit. I did 125 LL breath stretches and 30 oxycise breaths. > > Have a good night! Don't forget to breathe! Drink plenty of water! > > Love and prayers from Cincinnati > Liz > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > SALESFORCE.COM MAKES SOFTWARE OBSOLETE > Secure, online sales force automation with 5 users FREE for 1 year! > 1/2658/1/_/812636/_/961640760/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Please use our list bookstore In Association with Amazon.com If you are looking for anything, please click on this link first! Thanks! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/karmasrecommerea/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2000 Report Share Posted June 24, 2000 Liz I'm pretty much a learker on this board, but I have been reading quite a bit about your doing so many LL breathes and I guess I'm wondering if you're seeing any inch loss and if so, how much. I have been doing LL and BF for quite a while now, and haven't really had much results. I have noticed that about the only way anyone seems to see results is by also combining the breathing with some type of eating program. Are you doing this also? It's a little confusing because this whole thing was billed as being a way to lose inches without drastic changes in eating habits. I'd have to say that only juicing all day, or fasting all the time, is definately rather drastic if you ask me. Thanks for helping me out with this, I hope to see your post soon. B4L > Hi Everyone, > > Today I didn't do as good as I've been doing. I did 100 LL breath > stretches and 30 oxycise breaths. > > Don't forget to do some breathing this weekend, even if it's just 10 a > day. My goal ,right now, is to try and do at least 100 LL breath > stretches and 30 oxy. breaths 5 days a week. I'm trying to do at least > 40 LL breath stretches on Saturday and at least 20 breath stretches on > Sunday, but no oxyc. I really don't like oxycise so I need a break from > it on the weekend. I'm just doing it through the week for a while. I'm > trying to kill my jelly belly. LOL I hope that between the wonderful, > relaxing LL, and the chore-to-do Oxycise I'll start to see quicker > results in this area. > > Have a great night and a great weekend! > > Love and prayers from Cincinnati > Liz > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2000 Report Share Posted June 24, 2000 Hi B4R, I haven't really changed any of my eating habits. The only thing I'm doing is drinking more water and trying to eat more fruits and vegetables and not always exceeding at that. I'm still eating chocolate and my frozen yogurt. I probably should cut back some, but I'm not ready to do that yet. Yes, I'm losing a lot of inches. I haven't been measuring, however I see it in the mirror and in my clothes. Almost every week I notice that some part of my body is smaller. My stomach loss is a slower process. I'm definitely seeing results there too, but not as quickly as other parts of my body. When I started doing the body flatteners, (you lay on the floor, knees bent, do the breathing, and while you're holding your breath you flatten your tummy as flat as possible and hold it as long as possible. I usually hold it about 20 or more counts), I started seeing better results. I've also started doing some Oxycise along with LL to try and speed up the inch loss in this area. Have a great day! Breathe, Breathe, Breathe, Pah, Pah, Pah....... Love and prayers from Cincinnati Liz ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2000 Report Share Posted June 24, 2000 Hi B4R, I am wondering how much you have to lose? It seems to me from following many listers over the years that people who have more to lose do lose fairly quickly. Then, hit a plateau when they are not losing at all. Some people actually gain inches for a bit. It is at this point that many people look to change their way of eating. It seems to me that Jill of Oxycise changed her way of eating to vegetarian. That Greer of BodyFlex doesn't eat after 4:00 p.m. I don't remember Rashelle saying that she restricted her eating in any way. It seems to me that when she has posted about her eating is sounded very sensible to me. She eats a lot of salmon and it seems that she eats many small meals instead of a few huge meals. I think that any reasonable person who is sincerely trying to lose weight and become a healthy person will look at the whole picture and realize that at some point in time, diet is going to be an issue. I don't really think that any sensible well informed person is going to really believe that they can continue to eat tons of sugary, or starchy items and continue to take the pounds or inches off. My own story is that in the beginning I did lose 4 inches on BodyFlex eating as I was accustomed to eating, very high sugary and starchy foods in large quantities. The second week using BodyFlex I cut out the sugar and still only lost another 4 inches. I went from a size 22/20 down to a 16 in these two weeks. I obviously had it to lose, so it came off inspite of my bad eating habits. It then wouldn't come off, so I tried Oxycise, hated it, so tried LL. I then lost another 6 inches the first week of LifeLift and another dress size. I wasn't able to get past that no matter how hard I tried, so, I did what any other reasonable person did. I re-evaluated all areas and came to the conclusion that I needed to address my poor eating habits. I have since done that and have dropped 35 pounds to date since changing my eating habits. I am now dairy free and sugar free. I am also a vegetarian who eats only deep water fish occasionly. My big diet change was to be dairy free and sugar free. I have been a vegetarian since 1982 or 83. My point is that some people are able to lose pounds and inches just doing the breathing programs. I do believe at some point the diet does come into play. I hope that I answered your questions and helped you with this issue. My guess is that you don't have very much to lose at all, so, probably for you it will be an issue of diet instead of an issue of just breathing more. Take care, Karma > >Liz >I'm pretty much a learker on this board, but I have been reading >quite a bit about your doing so many LL breathes and I guess I'm >wondering if you're seeing any inch loss and if so, how much. I have >been doing LL and BF for quite a while now, and haven't really had >much results. I have noticed that about the only way anyone seems to >see results is by also combining the breathing with some type of >eating program. Are you doing this also? It's a little confusing >because this whole thing was billed as being a way to lose inches >without drastic changes in eating habits. I'd have to say that only >juicing all day, or fasting all the time, is definately rather >drastic if you ask me. Thanks for helping me out with >this, I hope to see your post soon. > >B4L ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2000 Report Share Posted June 26, 2000 Karma, You're right, I don't have that much to lose, maybe a size, two at the max. I guess I just thought that most of the programs were sold as being able to help in inch loss without change of diet. I do feel much better and have a lot more energy, but am not seeing the inches come off that I actually purchased the program for. I'll try making some healthier eating choses, although I don't do too badly right now. I do drink all the suggested water, and eat mostly vegetables and grains. I'll cut out the rest of the dairy and white flour, maybe that will help. I think you're probably right though, it's just doesn't stand to reason that a person would be able to become totally as lean as they would like, without making wiser eating choices. It's probably differant if one was only trying to maintain, but to really lose, I would think your opinion is correct. Thanks, B4R > Hi B4R, > I am wondering how much you have to lose? It seems to me from following > many listers over the years that people who have more to lose do lose fairly > quickly. Then, hit a plateau when they are not losing at all. Some people > actually gain inches for a bit. It is at this point that many people look > to change their way of eating. It seems to me that Jill of Oxycise changed > her way of eating to vegetarian. That Greer of BodyFlex doesn't eat after > 4:00 p.m. I don't remember Rashelle saying that she restricted her eating > in any way. It seems to me that when she has posted about her eating is > sounded very sensible to me. She eats a lot of salmon and it seems that she > eats many small meals instead of a few huge meals. I think that any > reasonable person who is sincerely trying to lose weight and become a > healthy person will look at the whole picture and realize that at some point > in time, diet is going to be an issue. I don't really think that any > sensible well informed person is going to really believe that they can > continue to eat tons of sugary, or starchy items and continue to take the > pounds or inches off. My own story is that in the beginning I did lose 4 > inches on BodyFlex eating as I was accustomed to eating, very high sugary > and starchy foods in large quantities. The second week using BodyFlex I cut > out the sugar and still only lost another 4 inches. I went from a size > 22/20 down to a 16 in these two weeks. I obviously had it to lose, so it > came off inspite of my bad eating habits. It then wouldn't come off, so I > tried Oxycise, hated it, so tried LL. I then lost another 6 inches the > first week of LifeLift and another dress size. I wasn't able to get past > that no matter how hard I tried, so, I did what any other reasonable person > did. I re-evaluated all areas and came to the conclusion that I needed to > address my poor eating habits. I have since done that and have dropped 35 > pounds to date since changing my eating habits. I am now dairy free and > sugar free. I am also a vegetarian who eats only deep water fish > occasionly. My big diet change was to be dairy free and sugar free. I have > been a vegetarian since 1982 or 83. > > My point is that some people are able to lose pounds and inches just doing > the breathing programs. I do believe at some point the diet does come into > play. > > I hope that I answered your questions and helped you with this issue. My > guess is that you don't have very much to lose at all, so, probably for you > it will be an issue of diet instead of an issue of just breathing more. > > Take care, > Karma > > > >Liz > >I'm pretty much a learker on this board, but I have been reading > >quite a bit about your doing so many LL breathes and I guess I'm > >wondering if you're seeing any inch loss and if so, how much. I have > >been doing LL and BF for quite a while now, and haven't really had > >much results. I have noticed that about the only way anyone seems to > >see results is by also combining the breathing with some type of > >eating program. Are you doing this also? It's a little confusing > >because this whole thing was billed as being a way to lose inches > >without drastic changes in eating habits. I'd have to say that only > >juicing all day, or fasting all the time, is definately rather > >drastic if you ask me. Thanks for helping me out with > >this, I hope to see your post soon. > > > >B4L > > ______________________________________________________________________ __ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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