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[Guest guest]

Hi , and everyone else!

I've also just joined this week and even though the issue of vaccine has

been with us for a while (we have a 17 month old daughter) we're still don't

know enough.

After long and hard thinking we've decided not to vaccinate in spite of the

constant pressure we get from family, doctors pediatricians etc.

Now we're thinking of getting our daughter into day care part time and are

facing the vaccination dilemmas all over again.

Did any of you filed for a philosophic exemption at all?

In MA is the only thing open to us.

Also, for those of you who chose not to vaccinate AT ALL, do you seek

homeopathic care or natural remedies?

Love to hear back, it's a lonely and difficult road we're on :-)

Tal

Re: Newbie Intro

Hi , welcome. I know you will be glad you joined. There is lots to

learn. Sorry you had to learn the dangers of vaccines the way you did. I was

lucky that my child didn't have adverse reactions. I have only vaxed her to

2 years old. My second child hasn't recieved any at all. Good to see you

here anyway.

Fieldman

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Hi, I'm new and just thought I should introduce myself. My name is .

I'm a SAHM of 3 ages 10, 7 and 4 months. I'm here because my poor sweet 4

month old dd had a seizure a little more than a week ago. The seizure was

NOT febrile. It occured about 6 hours after receiving several vaccines. She

tensed then went limp. Her eyes were rolling around, it was like she wasn't

" there " . She went pale, then grey, then her feet were turning blue as the

ambulance arrived. (thank God they got there quickly) After a short stay in

the PICU she is now home and seems to be just fine.

I'm trying to do as much research as possible on vaccines and I'm just so

overwhelmed at how much " junk " I have been allowing to be put into my kids'

bodies.

Well, thanks for having me. I hope to learn alot and gain/give support

here.

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[Guest guest]

Welcome, Tal (and other new members!). You've come to the right place for

information and support.

We haven't vaxed in about 8 years and only use homeopathy and chiropractic.

My children are now 16 and 17. We have a religious exemption for school now

and have never had a problem with it. Never having dealt with daycare, I'm

not sure what to tell you about that one. I know there are others here who

have though. Hopefully they will chime in.

Kay

exemption

> Hi , and everyone else!

> I've also just joined this week and even though the issue of vaccine has

> been with us for a while (we have a 17 month old daughter) we're still

> don't

> know enough.

> After long and hard thinking we've decided not to vaccinate in spite of

> the

> constant pressure we get from family, doctors pediatricians etc.

> Now we're thinking of getting our daughter into day care part time and are

> facing the vaccination dilemmas all over again.

> Did any of you filed for a philosophic exemption at all?

> In MA is the only thing open to us.

> Also, for those of you who chose not to vaccinate AT ALL, do you seek

> homeopathic care or natural remedies?

>

> Love to hear back, it's a lonely and difficult road we're on :-)

>

> Tal

[Guest guest]

I believe that you should be able to. Even if for a religious exemption you

must state that you recently learned that aborted fetuses were used in the

process of making them and that now knowing this fact that you cannot accept

them without going against your sincerely held religious beliefs. And if that

is a stretch for you to say, then go with it anyway as it is the narrow way

in which we are allowed to claim religious exemption in states that do not

have philosphical exemptions. We should be able to object on any grounds but

unfortunately we cannot yet do that in most states.

In a message dated 6/1/2008 9:42:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jenleahy@... writes:

Hi,

I was wondering if you can put an exemption in later in the school year even

after your child is registered for school. All information

is in with school already, (immunizations)i

We would be using a religious exemption .

From: Sheri Nakken <_vaccineinfo@vaccinein_ (mailto:vaccineinfo@...) >

Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 5:08:19 PM

Subject: Macrophagic Myofasciitis in Children Is a Localized

Reaction to Vaccination

from Journal of Child Neurology:

Macrophagic Myofasciitis in Children Is a Localized Reaction to Vaccination

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I was wondering if you can put an exemption in later in the school year even

after your child is registered for school.  All information

is in with school already, (immunizations).

We would be using a religious exemption .

From: Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...>

Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 5:08:19 PM

Subject: Macrophagic Myofasciitis in Children Is a Localized

Reaction to Vaccination

from Journal of Child Neurology:

Macrophagic Myofasciitis in Children Is a Localized Reaction to Vaccination

<http://jcn.sagepub. com/cgi/content/ abstract/ 0883073807312370

v1?eaf>http://jcn.sagepub. com/cgi/content/ abstract/ 0883073807312370 v1?eaf

[Guest guest]

Then that would only exempt you from the vaccinations that use aborted fetuses,

not all of te vaccines right?

Macrophagic Myofasciitis in Children Is a Localized

Reaction to Vaccination

from Journal of Child Neurology:

Macrophagic Myofasciitis in Children Is a Localized Reaction to Vaccination

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[Guest guest]

What I meant to say was that you can claim a religious exemption and that is

supposed to be all that you would have to do. In your heart and mind though

are your religious reasons,one which might be the abortion aspect. Like

Sheri said, you do not have to explain your religion. You certainly have the

right to have had a religious conversion that would change your stance on

vaccination at any given time in your life. That is really none of their

business

though I know in some states they try to tell you that it is.

Mavis

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In a message dated 6/1/2008 10:23:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jenleahy@... writes:

Then that would only exempt you from the vaccinations that use aborted

fetuses,

not all of te vaccines right?

Re: exemption

I believe that you should be able to. Even if for a religious exemption you

must state that you recently learned that aborted fetuses were used in the

process of making them and that now knowing this fact that you cannot accept

them without going against your sincerely held religious beliefs. And if

that

is a stretch for you to say, then go with it anyway as it is the narrow way

in which we are allowed to claim religious exemption in states that do not

have philosphical exemptions. We should be able to object on any grounds but

unfortunately we cannot yet do that in most states.

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[Guest guest]

At 02:42 AM 6/2/2008, you wrote:

>Hi,

>I was wondering if you can put an exemption in later in the school

>year even after your child is registered for school. All information

>is in with school already, (immunizations).

>We would be using a religious exemption .

Just wait until the next year would be my advise, unless you think

that they might vaccinate your child in some situation.

Sheri

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't try to explain - what state are you in Jen?

Sheri

At 03:13 AM 6/2/2008, you wrote:

>

>I believe that you should be able to. Even if for a religious exemption you

>must state that you recently learned that aborted fetuses were used in the

>process of making them and that now knowing this fact that you cannot accept

>them without going against your sincerely held religious

>beliefs. And if that

> is a stretch for you to say, then go with it anyway as it is the narrow way

>in which we are allowed to claim religious exemption in states that do not

>have philosphical exemptions. We should be able to object on any

>grounds but

>unfortunately we cannot yet do that in most states.

>

>In a message dated 6/1/2008 9:42:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

>jenleahy@... writes:

>

>Hi,

>I was wondering if you can put an exemption in later in the school year even

>after your child is registered for school. All information

>is in with school already, (immunizations)i

>We would be using a religious exemption .

>From: Sheri Nakken <_vaccineinfo@vaccinein_ (mailto:vaccineinfo@...) >

>Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 5:08:19 PM

>Subject: Macrophagic Myofasciitis in Children Is a Localized

>Reaction to Vaccination

>

>from Journal of Child Neurology:

>

>Macrophagic Myofasciitis in Children Is a Localized Reaction to Vaccination

>

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>com/cgi/content/ abstract/ 0883073807312370 v1?eaf

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheri,

I live in New Jersey.

Macrophagic Myofasciitis in Children Is a Localized

>Reaction to Vaccination

>

>from Journal of Child Neurology:

>

>Macrophagic Myofasciitis in Children Is a Localized Reaction to Vaccination

>

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>com/cgi/content/ abstract/ 0883073807312370 v1?eaf

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheri,

I live in New Jersey.

Jen

Macrophagic Myofasciitis in Children Is a Localized

>Reaction to Vaccination

>

>from Journal of Child Neurology:

>

>Macrophagic Myofasciitis in Children Is a Localized Reaction to Vaccination

>

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>0883073807312370 v1?eaf>_http://jcn.sagepub. _ (http://jcn.sagepub. /)

>com/cgi/content/ abstract/ 0883073807312370 v1?eaf

>

>

>

>

>

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>Tyler Florence " on AOL Food.

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know if you put an exemption in for one child and not the other if

that will cause issues.

My daughter is enrolled in Catholic School and is up to date with shots.  My son

on the other hand is up to

date as well, but we live in NJ and requires a flu shot for preschool.  I was

not putting him in this year so I had not problem and

put my daughters immunization record in with the Catholic school already.

My son suffers from delays and I may have to put him in a special needs

preschool this year.  He really needs to get extra help and

see others like himself, to feel more confident and be more successful.  His

therapists said it would be very beneficial.

I guess I was in denial, and figured I could help him and his therapists and

that was enough for now.

Any suggestions? Do you think I would have a problem, or being that they will

not be attending the same schools it should be ok?

I know probably not, but I figured it was worth a shot asking some of you well

informed mamas.

Thanks,

Jen

[Guest guest]

I doubt it would be a problem, if you can count on the school nurses not giving

out private info on students. But why aren't you exempting both children? You

know your daughter will be required to get more vaccines at some time. I suppose

if it's working, don't rock the boat but just curious.

Winnie

Re: exemption

Vaccinations

> Does anyone know if you put an exemption in for one child and

> not the other if that will cause issues.

> My daughter is enrolled in Catholic School and is up to date

> with shots. My son on the other hand is up to

> date as well, but we live in NJ and requires a flu shot for

> preschool. I was not putting him in this year so I had not

> problem and

> put my daughters immunization record in with the Catholic school

> already.My son suffers from delays and I may have to put him in

> a special needs preschool this year. He really needs to get

> extra help and

> see others like himself, to feel more confident and be more

> successful. His therapists said it would be very beneficial.

> I guess I was in denial, and figured I could help him and his

> therapists and that was enough for now.

> Any suggestions? Do you think I would have a problem, or being

> that they will not be attending the same schools it should be ok?

> I know probably not, but I figured it was worth a shot asking

> some of you well informed mamas.

> Thanks,

> Jen

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I plan to put my daughter in public school next year and I will be putting

in the exemption then.  I did not put in an exemption with the private

school and I don't know if they will accept it.  I never asked because I didn' t

plan

on putting my son in school this year.

I decided we will wait because the public school has no option but to accept

it.  I have

no idea about the school nurses, I never met them. 

Thanks for the info.  I appreciate it.

Re: exemption

Vaccinations

> Does anyone know if you put an exemption in for one child and

> not the other if that will cause issues.

> My daughter is enrolled in Catholic School and is up to date

> with shots. My son on the other hand is up to

> date as well, but we live in NJ and requires a flu shot for

> preschool. I was not putting him in this year so I had not

> problem and

> put my daughters immunization record in with the Catholic school

> already.My son suffers from delays and I may have to put him in

> a special needs preschool this year. He really needs to get

> extra help and

> see others like himself, to feel more confident and be more

> successful. His therapists said it would be very beneficial.

> I guess I was in denial, and figured I could help him and his

> therapists and that was enough for now.

> Any suggestions? Do you think I would have a problem, or being

> that they will not be attending the same schools it should be ok?

> I know probably not, but I figured it was worth a shot asking

> some of you well informed mamas.

> Thanks,

> Jen

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sure you've already thought of this, and I don't know if it's true for

preschool, but public schools will provide those special services at no cost to

you. I suppose you'll choose based on the quality of services, but financially

it's pretty appealing.

Winnie

Re: exemption

> Vaccinations

>

> > Does anyone know if you put an exemption in for one child and

> > not the other if that will cause issues.

> > My daughter is enrolled in Catholic School and is up to date

> > with shots. My son on the other hand is up to

> > date as well, but we live in NJ and requires a flu shot for

> > preschool. I was not putting him in this year so I had not

> > problem and

> > put my daughters immunization record in with the Catholic

> school

> > already.My son suffers from delays and I may have to put him

> in

> > a special needs preschool this year. He really needs to get

> > extra help and

> > see others like himself, to feel more confident and be more

> > successful. His therapists said it would be very beneficial.

> > I guess I was in denial, and figured I could help him and his

> > therapists and that was enough for now.

> > Any suggestions? Do you think I would have a problem, or being

> > that they will not be attending the same schools it should be ok?

> > I know probably not, but I figured it was worth a shot asking

> > some of you well informed mamas.

> > Thanks,

> > Jen

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Okay everyone, does anyone here worry about meningitis?  I plan on putting our

exemption

in but, would like some more info. on meningitis.  A friend of ours nephew had

bacterial meningitis and lost his leg and almost died.  He was 18 years old when

he contracted it.  When I hear stories like these I start freaking out.  Can

someone

who knows about meningitis give me some more info.

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The only thing I can offer is that of the recent cases that I know

about locally (three, all getting ready for college), they all

contracted Meningitis from the vaccine.

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:17 AM, jen leahy <jenleahy@...> wrote:

>

>

> Okay everyone, does anyone here worry about meningitis?

[Guest guest]

Look here: http://www.nvic.org/Diseases/meningitisfacts.htm

Meningitis would be a risk for college students because of risky behavior

(drinking, smoking, eating poorly) by newly independent teenagers. That's why

it's recommended mostly for freshmen. As with any disease, you need to take care

of yourself.

If you're freaked out about meningitis--and after your nephew's experience, that

is certainly understandable--you should remain freaked out if your child is

vaccinated because vaccines don't work. If your nephew was 18, was he in

college? Was he vaccinated?

Winnie

Re: exemption

Vaccinations

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Okay everyone, does anyone here worry about meningitis? I plan

> on putting our exemption

> in but, would like some more info. on meningitis. A friend of

> ours nephew had

> bacterial meningitis and lost his leg and almost died. He was

> 18 years old when

> he contracted it. When I hear stories like these I start

> freaking out. Can someone

> who knows about meningitis give me some more info.

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Can you send me some information where you read that, I would greatly appreciate

it.

Thanks so much

Re: exemption

The only thing I can offer is that of the recent cases that I know

about locally (three, all getting ready for college), they all

contracted Meningitis from the vaccine.

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:17 AM, jen leahy <jenleahy (DOT) com> wrote:

>

>

> Okay everyone, does anyone here worry about meningitis?

[Guest guest]

Hi Winnie,

No, it was a friend of ours nephew, I don't think he was vaccinated, but I am

not

100% sure. 

Re: exemption

Vaccinations

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Okay everyone, does anyone here worry about meningitis? I plan

> on putting our exemption

> in but, would like some more info. on meningitis. A friend of

> ours nephew had

> bacterial meningitis and lost his leg and almost died. He was

> 18 years old when

> he contracted it. When I hear stories like these I start

> freaking out. Can someone

> who knows about meningitis give me some more info.

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I have a quick question. Do you think it is better to have your exemption letter notarized by a lawyer(vaccine exemption)? If so, can someone recommend one in the NJ area.

[Guest guest]

if the state doesnt ask for that don't need to do that

a notarization can be done by any notary and guarantees only that you

are the signer unless you think it will be intimating to have it come

from a lawyer

Sheri

At 06:37 AM 1/4/2010, you wrote:

>I have a quick question. Do you think it is better to have your

>exemption letter notarized by a lawyer(vaccine exemption)? If so,

>can someone recommend one in the NJ area.

[Guest guest]

if the state doesnt ask for that don't need to do that

a notarization can be done by any notary and guarantees only that you

are the signator.

Sheri

At 06:37 AM 1/4/2010, you wrote:

>I have a quick question. Do you think it is better to have your

>exemption letter notarized by a lawyer(vaccine exemption)? If so,

>can someone recommend one in the NJ area.

[Guest guest]

Our auto mechanic is our notary. ;0) neither the school, the Dr. nor the health department questioned about who the notary was.Toni Sent from my iPhoneNmidaughterseyes@...On Jan 4, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Sheri Nakken <vaccinedangers@...> wrote:

if the state doesnt ask for that don't need to do that

a notarization can be done by any notary and guarantees only that you

are the signer unless you think it will be intimating to have it come

from a lawyer

Sheri

At 06:37 AM 1/4/2010, you wrote:

>I have a quick question. Do you think it is better to have your

>exemption letter notarized by a lawyer(vaccine exemption)? If so,

>can someone recommend one in the NJ area.

[Guest guest]

I found notary's work in banks or city offices. Our bank does it for free, I have never had to pay for a notary, not here in this town anyway'.

Western NY

Re: re: exemption

if the state doesnt ask for that don't need to do thata notarization can be done by any notary and guarantees only that you are the signator.SheriAt 06:37 AM 1/4/2010, you wrote:>I have a quick question. Do you think it is better to have your >exemption letter notarized by a lawyer(vaccine exemption)? If so, >can someone recommend one in the NJ area.

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I never have done it. I think it's fine to go into it with the attitude that it's not a big deal, that you are merely claiming your legal right. You could always involve a lawyer later if you felt the need to.

Winnie re: exemptionVaccinations > I have a quick question. Do you think it is better to have your > exemption letter notarized by a lawyer(vaccine exemption)? If > so, can someone recommend one in the NJ area. > > >