Burning Skin

[Guest guest]

>

> Bee, I've had die-off thru the skin all over my body for months.

> Even filtered, distilled, or boiled water causes itching & burning.

> For the past 4 weeks, it's much worse on my face, terrible rashes on

> my forehead & now the skin is splitting open into 1/2 inch fissures

> which form a crust but spread. Most are from my nose downward, under

> my chin, beside my nostrils.

> I keep putting VCO on all day. This morning I dabbed baking soda on

> after the VCO & couldn't stand the pain, burning. I feel like I must

> be doing something wrong or I'm somehow causing these sores to occur.

> I've been fully on diet & supps since May '07 but backed off all

> antifungals October thru December. I'm now eating just 1 tsp VCO per

> day.

> I'm sure my fat ratio is too low. What should I eat or add to

> prevent these fissures ? I don't think they're caused by die-off. The

> stinging & burning is pretty bad.

==>Hi Susie. My heart goes out to you my friend. The health of your

skin comes from inside your body, and most skin symptoms are caused by

toxins coming out through the skin, so it is not a bad thing. Yes, they

are die-off/detoxifying symptoms, unless you had some skin condition

like that in the past. In that case thye would be retracing symptoms.

When using coconut oil on the skin it tends to increase skin symptoms,

and depending upon your general health it could take some time.

When you broke your arm weren't you on pain killers and maybe other

drugs? If so, it could some time for you to heal, and also get back to

where you were before that happened. In that time you could have lost

a fair amount of ground as well. It took so much out of your body to

deal with your broken arm.

Yes, sticking to the fats ratio helps a lot. Maybe you shouldn't be

backing off so much on taking coconut oil. But there are other oils

and fats you can have that are not as antifungal as CO, i.e. extra

virgin olive oil, lard, chicken fat, etc., and also eat more fatty

meats like pork.

Ensure you are also taking the correct amount of omega-3, and vitamins

A, D, & E. Cod liver oil contains omega-3, A & D and you should take

it all year unless you are sure you get enough sun exposure at the

right time of day, etc. per my article. If you only take fish oil

because you get enough sun, you also need to take vitamin A - vitamin A

is very important for the skin.

Because your skin is so bad I recommend you double your cod liver oil

or fish oil doses, and also take a total of 100,000 IU of vitamin A per

day extra (in divided doses with meals) for 1 month; then stop taking

it for 2 days, and continue for another month, and so on for 3 months

total. Also rub cod liver oil into the cracks of your skin and also

into other bad areas. You can actually rub it into any area of your

skin. If you can't rub it in, soak cotton gauze pieces in cod liver

oil and tape it to your skin, particularly at bedtime so it is working

all night long.

I hope that helps.

Luv & Hugs, Bee

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Bee, I've had die-off thru the skin all over my body for

months.

> > Even filtered, distilled, or boiled water causes itching &

burning.

> > For the past 4 weeks, it's much worse on my face, terrible

rashes on

> > my forehead & now the skin is splitting open into 1/2 inch

fissures

> > which form a crust but spread. Most are from my nose downward,

under

> > my chin, beside my nostrils.

> > I keep putting VCO on all day. This morning I dabbed baking

soda on

> > after the VCO & couldn't stand the pain, burning. I feel like I

must

> > be doing something wrong or I'm somehow causing these sores to

occur.

> > I've been fully on diet & supps since May '07 but backed off

all

> > antifungals October thru December. I'm now eating just 1 tsp VCO

per

> > day.

> > I'm sure my fat ratio is too low. What should I eat or add to

> > prevent these fissures ? I don't think they're caused by die-

off. The

> > stinging & burning is pretty bad.

>

> ==>Hi Susie. My heart goes out to you my friend. The health of

your

> skin comes from inside your body, and most skin symptoms are

caused by

> toxins coming out through the skin, so it is not a bad thing. Yes,

they

> are die-off/detoxifying symptoms, unless you had some skin

condition

> like that in the past. In that case thye would be retracing

symptoms.

>

>> When you broke your arm weren't you on pain killers and maybe

other

> drugs? If so, it could some time for you to heal, and also get

back to

> where you were before that happened. In that time you could have

lost

> a fair amount of ground as well. It took so much out of your body

to

> deal with your broken arm.

>

> Yes, sticking to the fats ratio helps a lot. Maybe you shouldn't

be

> backing off so much on taking coconut oil. But there are other

oils

> and fats you can have that are not as antifungal as CO, i.e. extra

> virgin olive oil, lard, chicken fat, etc., and also eat more fatty

> meats like pork.

>

> Ensure you are also taking the correct amount of omega-3, and

vitamins

> A, D, & E. Cod liver oil contains omega-3, A & D and you should

take

> it all year unless you are sure you get enough sun exposure at the

> right time of day, etc. per my article. If you only take fish oil

> because you get enough sun, you also need to take vitamin A -

vitamin A

> is very important for the skin.

>

> Because your skin is so bad I recommend you double your cod liver

oil

> or fish oil doses, and also take a total of 100,000 IU of vitamin

A per

> day extra (in divided doses with meals) for 1 month; then stop

taking

> it for 2 days, and continue for another month, and so on for 3

months

> total. Also rub cod liver oil into the cracks of your skin and

also

> into other bad areas. You can actually rub it into any area of

your

> skin. If you can't rub it in, soak cotton gauze pieces in cod

liver

> oil and tape it to your skin, particularly at bedtime so it is

working

> all night long.

>

> I hope that helps.

> Luv & Hugs, Bee

>

Bee, yes very helpful !! I actually broke my right shoulder at

the joint. Hospital warned me this will hurt a lot, oh yes. But I

managed on Ibuprofen for 2 months so those toxins have to come out.

I now have physical therapy twice a week, shoulder is frozen, quite

a work-out but making progress. I'll do exactly as you suggest,

double the cod liver oil, rub it on sores plus increase vit. A.

Thank you so much ! Susie

[Guest guest]

Re this skin problem...I had a very bad skin problem which started off as bad

dandruff & spread to all of my forehead & around my eyebrows & I started to get

small cracked fissures in my forehead you describe.

I'm pretty sure if I hadn't nipped the problem in the bud pretty quickly it

would have gotten as bad as you describe ..as it just kept spreading slowly each

day .

In my case the day I cut Kefir out of my diet was the day it immediately began

clearing up ...

It was not the dairy or the lactose causing this problem though (because I can

still eat raw homemade yogurt OK..which does not contain yeast/alcohol)

It was the ferment /Yeast componenet of Kefir ...To explain I used to ferment

my Kefir for an extra long period because that is how you make sure all the

lactose in the milk is converted ....so my Kefir was lactose free.

Problem I didnt forsee is the less sugar in your milk (obtained through a long

fermentation period)...automatically means the higher alcohol/yeast content of

the Kefir... & I seem to have a big problem with any sort of yeast/alcohol

...(even brewers yeast )...I cannot even tolerate homemeade sourkraut atm ..it

causes the same skin problems ...(although in hindsite I was using Kefir whey as

a starter for my sourkraut )

When I started off having kefir it was fine ...but after a couple of months

....especially when I started the more hardcore fermentation too reduce lactose

....was when my bad skin problem appeared.

Anyway you may want to consider if you have any alcohol or yeast sources in

your diet .

Also imo ..( & this may be against what Bee believes because I know Bee

considers most symptoms are die-off).....but in my experience skin conditions

can often be caused by some sort of intolerance to a food or chemical...that you

are constantly imbiding & /or coming in contact with....for some reason these

sort of problems seem more likely to manifest via the skin.

Burning Skin

Posted by: " susiedu " susiedu@... susiedu

Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:57 am (PST)

Bee, I've had die-off thru the skin all over my body for months.

Even filtered, distilled, or boiled water causes itching & burning.

For the past 4 weeks, it's much worse on my face, terrible rashes on

my forehead & now the skin is splitting open into 1/2 inch fissures

which form a crust but spread. Most are from my nose downward, under

my chin, beside my nostrils.

I keep putting VCO on all day. This morning I dabbed baking soda on

after the VCO & couldn't stand the pain, burning. I feel like I must

be doing something wrong or I'm somehow causing these sores to occur.

I've been fully on diet & supps since May '07 but backed off all

antifungals October thru December. I'm now eating just 1 tsp VCO per

day.

I'm sure my fat ratio is too low. What should I eat or add to

prevent these fissures ? I don't think they're caused by die-off. The

stinging & burning is pretty bad. Thank you. Susie

[Guest guest]

>

> Re this skin problem...I had a very bad skin problem which started

off as bad dandruff & spread to all of my forehead & around my

eyebrows & I started to get small cracked fissures in my forehead

you describe.

> I'm pretty sure if I hadn't nipped the problem in the bud

pretty quickly it would have gotten as bad as you describe ..as it

just kept spreading slowly each day .

>

> In my case the day I cut Kefir out of my diet was the day it

immediately began clearing up ...

>

>

> It was not the dairy or the lactose causing this problem though

(because I can still eat raw homemade yogurt OK..which does not

contain yeast/alcohol)

>

> It was the ferment /Yeast componenet of Kefir ...To explain I

used to ferment my Kefir for an extra long period because that is

how you make sure all the lactose in the milk is converted ....so my

Kefir was lactose free.

>

> Problem I didnt forsee is the less sugar in your milk (obtained

through a long fermentation period)...automatically means the higher

alcohol/yeast content of the Kefir... & I seem to have a big problem

with any sort of yeast/alcohol ..(even brewers yeast )...I cannot

even tolerate homemeade sourkraut atm ..it causes the same skin

problems ...(although in hindsite I was using Kefir whey as a

starter for my sourkraut )

>

> When I started off having kefir it was fine ...but after a

couple of months ...especially when I started the more hardcore

fermentation too reduce lactose ...was when my bad skin problem

appeared.

>

> Anyway you may want to consider if you have any alcohol or yeast

sources in your diet .

>

> Also imo ..( & this may be against what Bee believes because I

know Bee considers most symptoms are die-off).....but in my

experience skin conditions can often be caused by some sort of

intolerance to a food or chemical...that you are constantly imbiding

& /or coming in contact with....for some reason these sort of

problems seem more likely to manifest via the skin.

>

, that's really interesting how you solved the skin

problem. I've never eaten kefir but I have sauerkraut every day. My

meals are always the same...2 eggs for breakfast, lunch is a stewed

chicken thigh with 1/2 tomato & dinner is more sauerkraut, 4 oz of

liver or beef & 1/4 tomato. All die-off has been thru my skin since

starting the diet back last May & now it's worse. But maybe I'm

dumping toxins from 2 months of pain meds ? I'll think about

chemicals. Thanks ! Susie

[Guest guest]

Susie... how many grams of fat are you eating per day, compared with

your optimum diet goal??? Just curious. (How much VCO, etc...)

>

> , that's really interesting how you solved the skin

> problem. I've never eaten kefir but I have sauerkraut every day. My

> meals are always the same...2 eggs for breakfast, lunch is a stewed

> chicken thigh with 1/2 tomato & dinner is more sauerkraut, 4 oz of

> liver or beef & 1/4 tomato. All die-off has been thru my skin since

> starting the diet back last May & now it's worse. But maybe I'm

> dumping toxins from 2 months of pain meds ? I'll think about

> chemicals. Thanks ! Susie

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Susie... how many grams of fat are you eating per day, compared with

> your optimum diet goal??? Just curious. (How much VCO, etc...)

>

> >

Hi Doug...not eating enough fat, for sure. 1 T. olive oil, 1 tsp VCO,

and the skin on the chicken thigh, woo hoo. Well, a little more olive

oil which I fry my eggs in, & I drink the broth from stewing a dozen

thighs. That's about it. If I have beef like a tiny piece of steak, I

eat the fat on it of course.

Everything changed for me back in Oct when I broke my shoulder & I'm

slowly but surely getting back on track. I eat like a bird, really.

[Guest guest]

Look I dont like to argue just for arguments sake and especially not with Bee

since I find the Group & advice most useful here....but if it prevents anybody

from going thru the problems I did ..it will have been worth it ...the 2 sites

below ( & many others I could list if I had the time) demonstrate there is yeast

& alcohol in home brewed Kefir...you can read it at the sites Ive listed ..or

google yourself.

For most people it will not be a problem but if your extremely yeast

sensitive as I was for a while ...it can be a problem....(it sure was for me

anyway...maybe I am an oddity ..I can accept that))

I cannot comment on home brewed sourkraut, that has not been started with

home made Kefir whey ...since all my sourkraut was made using Kefir whey ( & I

made this point clear in my original email)

Home made yogurt from raw milk causes me no problems & on the contrary helps

me....I dont eat it in large quantities though.

http://www.kefir.biz/ferm.htm

The Right Temperature

The best fermentation temperature for Kefir is between 22oC and 30o C (72 - 86o

F).

Researchers have found nearly 30 different bacteria and 25 different yeasts in

Kefir cultures.........

Kefir an alcoholic beverage?

Depending on the fermentation process, fermentation temperature, time and type

of culture used, the alcohol content of Kefir will vary from 0.06 % (Marshall

1984), up to a maximum of 3% alcohol. The average alcohol content in home

brewing is around 0.5% with a loose lid and 1% in an airtight jar. Shaking the

fermentation container during the fermentation time also results in higher

alcohol content.....

http://www.kefir.biz/ferm.htm

Kefir grains are a combination of bacteria and yeasts in a matrix of proteins,

lipids, and sugars. This symbiotic matrix forms grains that resemble

cauliflower. Today, kefir is becoming increasingly popular due to new research

into its health benefits. Many different bacteria and yeasts are found in the

kefir grains, which are a complex and highly variable community of

micro-organisms.[2]

Traditional kefir is fermented at ambient temperatures, generally overnight.

Fermentation of the lactose yields a sour, carbonated, slightly alcoholic

beverage,........

Posted by: " Bee " beeisbuzzing2003@... beeisbuzzing2003

Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:00 pm (PST)

>

> Re this skin problem...I had a very bad skin problem which started

off as bad dandruff & spread to all of my forehead & around my

eyebrows & I started to get small cracked fissures in my forehead

you describe.

> I'm pretty sure if I hadn't nipped the problem in the bud pretty

quickly it would have gotten as bad as you describe ..as it just kept

spreading slowly each day .

>

> In my case the day I cut Kefir out of my diet was the day it

immediately began clearing up ...

>

> It was not the dairy or the lactose causing this problem though

(because I can still eat raw homemade yogurt OK..which does not

contain yeast/alcohol)

> It was the ferment /Yeast componenet of Kefir ...To explain I used

to ferment my Kefir for an extra long period because that is how you

make sure all the lactose in the milk is converted ....so my Kefir

was lactose free.

> Problem I didnt forsee is the less sugar in your milk (obtained

through a long fermentation period)...automatically means the higher

alcohol/yeast content of the Kefir... & I seem to have a big problem

with any sort of yeast/alcohol ..(even brewers yeast )...I cannot

even tolerate homemeade sourkraut atm ..it causes the same skin

problems ...(although in hindsite I was using Kefir whey as a starter

for my sourkraut )

==>Hi . Both homemade yogurt and kefir are not okay because

as they are fermented the lactose may lower but it is also changed

into another sugar called galactose. There is no yeast or alcohol

content in homemade kefir however.

> Also imo ..( & this may be against what Bee believes because I

know Bee considers most symptoms are die-off).....but in my

experience skin conditions can often be caused by some sort of

intolerance to a food or chemical...that you are constantly imbiding

& /or coming in contact with....for some reason these sort of problems

seem more likely to manifest via the skin.

==>Your skin problems were caused by consuming kefir, yogurt, and

also using kefir to make sauerkraut because kefir and yogurt both

contain sugars called galactose which feeds candida - thus more

toxins for the body to get rid of through the skin.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Look I dont like to argue just for arguments sake and especially

not with Bee since I find the Group & advice most useful here....but

if it prevents anybody from going thru the problems I did ..it will

have been worth it ...the 2 sites below ( & many others I could list

if I had the time) demonstrate there is yeast & alcohol in home

brewed Kefir...you can read it at the sites Ive listed ..or google

yourself.

> For most people it will not be a problem but if your extremely

yeast sensitive as I was for a while ...it can be a problem....(it

sure was for me anyway...maybe I am an oddity ..I can accept that))

>

> I cannot comment on home brewed sourkraut, that has not been

started with home made Kefir whey ...since all my sourkraut was made

using Kefir whey ( & I made this point clear in my original email)

>

> Home made yogurt from raw milk causes me no problems & on the

contrary helps me....I dont eat it in large quantities though.

>

==>Thank you . I stand corrected about kefir not containing

alcohol, etc. However it is not significant for our purposes because

kefir is not included in the candida diet.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

I don't at all understand why you would use kefir as a starter in

sauerkraut, because the cabbage already has everything it needs to

ferment itself. I also don't understand using yogurt, kefir or any

other dairy, considering they will still contain the milk sugars that

will feed candida. As is says on the introductory page, this group

centers on Bee's program. And an important part of Bee's program is no

yogurt, kefir, etc....

There are plenty of other groups who advocate using them. Of course,

those groups are full of people who continually post to each other

about not getting well either... as well as comforting and encouraging

other cheats too.