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I feel the need not to apologize but to clarify myself and what may

have come off as snotty or mean or in anyway as is I was saying what

Dr is or is not the best choice for all women. I was, ironically,

reading a book last night about communication, and it was in this

book that a statement was made about how when someone has a feeling

about something, it is important, in a relationship especially, not

to try to change their feelings, or tell them they are wrong, because

feelings cannot be wrong, they are our own personal feelings, cannot

be changed, they can be influenced but, in the end, it is up to us to

chose what is right for us. My post was intended to state my PERSONAL

OPINION and not that of anyone elses when I stated what I did

regarding another website and a PS supporting that website. I do have

strong and very emotionally valid feelings on this issue and they are

mine, and I have a right to them. Others have very similiar views and

feelings about their own Dr's and those are also very valid and

rightfully their own.

We each have the right to chose, based on many different factors in

our lives, what Dr is right for us. There is however, nothing wrong

with stating our opinion or feelings. If this group was not about

doing that, then it would be pointless to even come here.

I stayed away for some time because I felt that my opinions were not

really that important to others and that how I felt, or what advice I

was giving was either not valid or not being taken by most of the

members anyhow, this may or may not be true, but it was my feeling.

I am sure that I will once again just stay away and offer my opinions

to those who email me personally seeking advice or opinions since

everytime I speak out, I tend to get shot down, or come off

offensively.

Take care

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Don't stop supporting this group. You have valued input and you are

one of the few on this group who actively reminds us of the

importance of exercise. I just read an article this morning by dr

mercola stating that exercise is as powerful as a drug. THe link

between exercise and the reduction or prevention of many major

diseases is indisputable. I think we all get our feelings hurt

pretty easily, and indeed, it is hard to disagree gracefully whether

on this forum or any other. I regularly read at least 3 other

forums and like Rogene pointed out, this is one of the best. We

have had our rough spots over the years, but have always gotten past

them. We are all so different and that is one of the strengths of

this group....lots of ideas to choose from, lots of opinions to

consider, lots of practical advice, and just as importantly lots of

friendship and support!!

God bless,

kathy

-- In , " naturalbeauty38 "

<naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

> I feel the need not to apologize but to clarify myself and what

may

> have come off as snotty or mean or in anyway as is I was saying

what

> Dr is or is not the best choice for all women. I was, ironically,

> reading a book last night about communication, and it was in this

> book that a statement was made about how when someone has a

feeling

> about something, it is important, in a relationship especially,

not

> to try to change their feelings, or tell them they are wrong,

because

> feelings cannot be wrong, they are our own personal feelings,

cannot

> be changed, they can be influenced but, in the end, it is up to us

to

> chose what is right for us. My post was intended to state my

PERSONAL

> OPINION and not that of anyone elses when I stated what I did

> regarding another website and a PS supporting that website. I do

have

> strong and very emotionally valid feelings on this issue and they

are

> mine, and I have a right to them. Others have very similiar views

and

> feelings about their own Dr's and those are also very valid and

> rightfully their own.

> We each have the right to chose, based on many different factors

in

> our lives, what Dr is right for us. There is however, nothing

wrong

> with stating our opinion or feelings. If this group was not about

> doing that, then it would be pointless to even come here.

> I stayed away for some time because I felt that my opinions were

not

> really that important to others and that how I felt, or what

advice I

> was giving was either not valid or not being taken by most of the

> members anyhow, this may or may not be true, but it was my feeling.

> I am sure that I will once again just stay away and offer my

opinions

> to those who email me personally seeking advice or opinions since

> everytime I speak out, I tend to get shot down, or come off

> offensively.

>

> Take care

>

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Thanks Kathy, and your right. It is hard to disagree gracefully, in

any situation and esp on the internet. Ha, anyhow I have strong

opinions and I usually end up ruffling someone with them, but I

cannot totally change the way I am or how I act, it is part of me. I

can try to be as polite as possible, and I felt that I did that in my

posts regarding this touchy issue. I have an incredible amount love

for this group and know how much it saved me from a life of pain and

suffering, because of this group I had the courage to get those bags

out of my body and it has been a source of comfort and stregnth. Now

that I am past that stage and not in need of all that support it only

seems fair to give some of it back. I also have this moral thing, and

I have issues with Dr's that I feel let us down or don't defend us

the way I feel they should, and I know that this pisses some people

off when I talk about it, I know it is unrealistic of me to expect

that any of these PS's even Dr Feng, stop implanting people, but gosh

I wish they would. Anyhow, thanks for the post dear, as you can see I

have been posting today, and will continue to do so as long as time

and schedule allow.

Hugs to you girl

In , " mikat828 " <mikat828@y...> wrote:

> -

> Don't stop supporting this group. You have valued input and you

are

> one of the few on this group who actively reminds us of the

> importance of exercise. I just read an article this morning by dr

> mercola stating that exercise is as powerful as a drug. THe link

> between exercise and the reduction or prevention of many major

> diseases is indisputable. I think we all get our feelings hurt

> pretty easily, and indeed, it is hard to disagree gracefully

whether

> on this forum or any other. I regularly read at least 3 other

> forums and like Rogene pointed out, this is one of the best. We

> have had our rough spots over the years, but have always gotten

past

> them. We are all so different and that is one of the strengths of

> this group....lots of ideas to choose from, lots of opinions to

> consider, lots of practical advice, and just as importantly lots of

> friendship and support!!

> God bless,

> kathy

>

>

>

>

> -- In , " naturalbeauty38 "

> <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:

> > I feel the need not to apologize but to clarify myself and what

> may

> > have come off as snotty or mean or in anyway as is I was saying

> what

> > Dr is or is not the best choice for all women. I was, ironically,

> > reading a book last night about communication, and it was in this

> > book that a statement was made about how when someone has a

> feeling

> > about something, it is important, in a relationship especially,

> not

> > to try to change their feelings, or tell them they are wrong,

> because

> > feelings cannot be wrong, they are our own personal feelings,

> cannot

> > be changed, they can be influenced but, in the end, it is up to

us

> to

> > chose what is right for us. My post was intended to state my

> PERSONAL

> > OPINION and not that of anyone elses when I stated what I did

> > regarding another website and a PS supporting that website. I do

> have

> > strong and very emotionally valid feelings on this issue and they

> are

> > mine, and I have a right to them. Others have very similiar views

> and

> > feelings about their own Dr's and those are also very valid and

> > rightfully their own.

> > We each have the right to chose, based on many different factors

> in

> > our lives, what Dr is right for us. There is however, nothing

> wrong

> > with stating our opinion or feelings. If this group was not about

> > doing that, then it would be pointless to even come here.

> > I stayed away for some time because I felt that my opinions were

> not

> > really that important to others and that how I felt, or what

> advice I

> > was giving was either not valid or not being taken by most of the

> > members anyhow, this may or may not be true, but it was my

feeling.

> > I am sure that I will once again just stay away and offer my

> opinions

> > to those who email me personally seeking advice or opinions since

> > everytime I speak out, I tend to get shot down, or come off

> > offensively.

> >

> > Take care

> >

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You are so right, you didn't piss me off. Neenienaturalbeauty38 <naturalbeauty38@...> wrote:

Thanks Kathy, and your right. It is hard to disagree gracefully, in any situation and esp on the internet. Ha, anyhow I have strong opinions and I usually end up ruffling someone with them, but I cannot totally change the way I am or how I act, it is part of me. I can try to be as polite as possible, and I felt that I did that in my posts regarding this touchy issue. I have an incredible amount love for this group and know how much it saved me from a life of pain and suffering, because of this group I had the courage to get those bags out of my body and it has been a source of comfort and stregnth. Now that I am past that stage and not in need of all that support it only seems fair to give some of it back. I also have this moral thing, and I have issues with Dr's that I feel let us down or don't defend us the way I feel they should,

and I know that this pisses some people off when I talk about it, I know it is unrealistic of me to expect that any of these PS's even Dr Feng, stop implanting people, but gosh I wish they would. Anyhow, thanks for the post dear, as you can see I have been posting today, and will continue to do so as long as time and schedule allow.Hugs to you girlIn , "mikat828" <mikat828@y...> wrote:> -> Don't stop supporting this group. You have valued input and you are > one of the few on this group who actively reminds us of the > importance of exercise. I just read an article this morning by dr > mercola stating that exercise is as powerful as a drug. THe link > between exercise and the reduction or prevention of many major > diseases is indisputable. I think we all get our feelings hurt > pretty easily, and

indeed, it is hard to disagree gracefully whether > on this forum or any other. I regularly read at least 3 other > forums and like Rogene pointed out, this is one of the best. We > have had our rough spots over the years, but have always gotten past > them. We are all so different and that is one of the strengths of > this group....lots of ideas to choose from, lots of opinions to > consider, lots of practical advice, and just as importantly lots of > friendship and support!!> God bless, > kathy> > > > > -- In , "naturalbeauty38" > <naturalbeauty38@y...> wrote:> > I feel the need not to apologize but to clarify myself and what > may > > have come off as snotty or mean or in anyway as is I was saying > what > > Dr is or is not the best choice for all women. I was, ironically,

> > reading a book last night about communication, and it was in this > > book that a statement was made about how when someone has a > feeling > > about something, it is important, in a relationship especially, > not > > to try to change their feelings, or tell them they are wrong, > because > > feelings cannot be wrong, they are our own personal feelings, > cannot > > be changed, they can be influenced but, in the end, it is up to us > to > > chose what is right for us. My post was intended to state my > PERSONAL > > OPINION and not that of anyone elses when I stated what I did > > regarding another website and a PS supporting that website. I do > have > > strong and very emotionally valid feelings on this issue and they > are > > mine, and I have a right to them. Others have very similiar views > and

> > feelings about their own Dr's and those are also very valid and > > rightfully their own.> > We each have the right to chose, based on many different factors > in > > our lives, what Dr is right for us. There is however, nothing > wrong > > with stating our opinion or feelings. If this group was not about > > doing that, then it would be pointless to even come here.> > I stayed away for some time because I felt that my opinions were > not > > really that important to others and that how I felt, or what > advice I > > was giving was either not valid or not being taken by most of the > > members anyhow, this may or may not be true, but it was my feeling.> > I am sure that I will once again just stay away and offer my > opinions > > to those who email me personally seeking advice or opinions since > > everytime I

speak out, I tend to get shot down, or come off > > offensively.> > > > Take care> >

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