Re: The new ped was so pushy

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU RONI-!!! I just searched up a chiropractor in my area and I found

one that uses drug free health care. I called them up immediately and was

expecting to speak with a receptionist. Well the Dr. picked up which was so

unexpected and she could tell I was so upset with all the ped's we've been

through already. She explained everything to me so I could understand and she

said her kids are not immunized and she understands what I'm going through and

that my children could be perfectly healthy without the use w/o

immunizations. She said she would love to see my kids and she even gave me

rates which

were cheaper than the co-pay for the ped I just went to! I can't wait to see

her! Thank you so much for the suggestion & the info!

Cat

In a message dated 1/16/2008 12:39:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

calladragonlily@... writes:

I've dumped peds for less than that. If it were my ped, I'd be finding

another one and there'd be no hauling my husband into the office. She was WAY

out

of line.

As an aside, I don't use peds or MDs anymore. I have a wonderful

chiropractor/As an aside, I don't use peds or MDs anymore. I have a wonderful

chiropractor/<WBR>nutritionist who looks after everyone in our family and

attends to

our medical and health needs. I monitor the kids' development and growth at

home using the same growth chart they use at the doctor's office (it's

available

on the internet). We have awesom

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I've dumped peds for less than that. If it were my ped, I'd be finding another

one and there'd be no hauling my husband into the office. She was WAY out of

line.

As an aside, I don't use peds or MDs anymore. I have a wonderful

chiropractor/nutritionist who looks after everyone in our family and attends to

our medical and health needs. I monitor the kids' development and growth at

home using the same growth chart they use at the doctor's office (it's available

on the internet). We have awesome medical care and no pressure about vaccines,

drugs or other invasive procedures.

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From: babyelrayess@...

So I took my 2 boys (2yrs and 4mos) to their new pediatrician yesterday.

She was all ready to give them their shots and I told her that we aren't

continuing their shots. So I get the speech about how I should out weigh the

consequences of getting them and not getting them, and how the risks are more

severe if I was to not continue them. Then she went on the say since Adam (4mos)

already had the first series of shots, then I was better off to continue the

rest because it's safer and he is at high risk right now. I rolled my eyes

and I think she got the hint that I was sticking to my guns. She said she is

not going to push me on getting the immunizations, but she was trying to be

very convincing. She told me things how her vaccines are mercury free and

preservative free. I just told her that me and my husband decided we are not

going to do it and she says she wants my husband to come in at the next

appnt, I'm assuming she will try to talk my hubby into getting them immunized. I

can't believe that. She even said that I should come in THIS WEEK instead of

their next months appnt w/ him so we could all talk. At the end of the

appointment she took Adam out into the hallway while I was getting Ray dressed

and

I asked her to please keep Adam in the room. I think from now on I will

take them in for individual appnts instead of having them seen at the same time.

So I did sign the refusal form and I just can't believe what they have

written in these things. I signed it anyway and did cross out the area where it

said " I understand that I am endangering my child.... " . Now do you all

think she is pushing it or what?? I feel like she is the type of doc who won't

stop asking us until we do it. I can't put myself through this!! I'm not

sure if I should continue my journey to finding a new ped or just stay w/

her...I don't know. I know a lot of you have encountered those pushy-type docs,

so did you stay w/ them or did you find a new one? Maybe I could have stood

up for myself a little more and said " we've already made our decision as

parents, and that's that " but I didn't.

Cat

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Glad to hear! You'll be MUCH healthier for it!

Best wishes!

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From: babyelrayess@...

THANK YOU RONI-!!! I just searched up a chiropractor in my area and I found

one that uses drug free health care. I called them up immediately and was

expecting to speak with a receptionist. Well the Dr. picked up which was so

unexpected and she could tell I was so upset with all the ped's we've been

through already. She explained everything to me so I could understand and she

said her kids are not immunized and she understands what I'm going through and

that my children could be perfectly healthy without the use w/o

immunizations. She said she would love to see my kids and she even gave me rates

which

were cheaper than the co-pay for the ped I just went to! I can't wait to see

her! Thank you so much for the suggestion & the info!

Cat

In a message dated 1/16/2008 12:39:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

calladragonlily@... writes:

I've dumped peds for less than that. If it were my ped, I'd be finding

another one and there'd be no hauling my husband into the office. She was WAY

out

of line.

As an aside, I don't use peds or MDs anymore. I have a wonderful

chiropractor/As an aside, I don't use peds or MDs anymore. I have a wonderful

chiropractor/<WBR>nutritionist who looks after everyone in our family and

attends to

our medical and health needs. I monitor the kids' development and growth at

home using the same growth chart they use at the doctor's office (it's available

on the internet). We have awesom

--

Roni Bergerson

Independent Monavie Distributor

Celebrate Good Health with Monavie!

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Hi Cat

Good for you

Many now never see peds but find a chiropractor, naturopath, homeopath or

at least a general practitioner (who usually aren't so pushy)

Once you discover you don't want vaccines, you realize you don't want much

else they have to offer.

And why risk having them call CPS on you.

Take it from me - wellchild visits are for VACCINES. Parents will be first

discover if something is wrong in most cases, not the ped

Sheri, listowner

(former peds nurse)

>So I took my 2 boys (2yrs and 4mos) to their new pediatrician yesterday.

>She was all ready to give them their shots and I told her that we aren't

>continuing their shots. So I get the speech about how I should out weigh the

>consequences of getting them and not getting them, and how the risks are

more

>severe if I was to not continue them. Then she went on the say since Adam

(4mos)

>already had the first series of shots, then I was better off to continue the

>rest because it's safer and he is at high risk right now. I rolled my eyes

>and I think she got the hint that I was sticking to my guns. She said she is

>not going to push me on getting the immunizations, but she was trying to be

>very convincing. She told me things how her vaccines are mercury free and

>preservative free. I just told her that me and my husband decided we are not

>going to do it and she says she wants my husband to come in at the next

>appnt, I'm assuming she will try to talk my hubby into getting them

immunized. I

>can't believe that. She even said that I should come in THIS WEEK instead of

>their next months appnt w/ him so we could all talk. At the end of the

>appointment she took Adam out into the hallway while I was getting Ray

dressed and

>I asked her to please keep Adam in the room. I think from now on I will

>take them in for individual appnts instead of having them seen at the same

time.

>So I did sign the refusal form and I just can't believe what they have

>written in these things. I signed it anyway and did cross out the area

where it

>said " I understand that I am endangering my child.... " . Now do you all

>think she is pushing it or what?? I feel like she is the type of doc who

won't

>stop asking us until we do it. I can't put myself through this!! I'm not

>sure if I should continue my journey to finding a new ped or just stay w/

>her...I don't know. I know a lot of you have encountered those pushy-type

docs,

>so did you stay w/ them or did you find a new one? Maybe I could have stood

>up for myself a little more and said " we've already made our decision as

>parents, and that's that " but I didn't.

>

>

>Cat

>

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Cat,

They have to put a preservative in a multi-dose. Ask her what the name of the

preservative is. If it's 2-phenoxyethanol, it's not good either.....

The new ped was so pushy

So I took my 2 boys (2yrs and 4mos) to their new pediatrician yesterday.

She was all ready to give them their shots and I told her that we aren't

continuing their shots. So I get the speech about how I should out weigh the

consequences of getting them and not getting them, and how the risks are more

severe if I was to not continue them. Then she went on the say since Adam

(4mos)

already had the first series of shots, then I was better off to continue the

rest because it's safer and he is at high risk right now. I rolled my eyes

and I think she got the hint that I was sticking to my guns. She said she is

not going to push me on getting the immunizations, but she was trying to be

very convincing. She told me things how her vaccines are mercury free and

preservative free. I just told her that me and my husband decided we are not

going to do it and she says she wants my husband to come in at the next

appnt, I'm assuming she will try to talk my hubby into getting them immunized.

I

can't believe that. She even said that I should come in THIS WEEK instead of

their next months appnt w/ him so we could all talk. At the end of the

appointment she took Adam out into the hallway while I was getting Ray dressed

and

I asked her to please keep Adam in the room. I think from now on I will

take them in for individual appnts instead of having them seen at the same

time.

So I did sign the refusal form and I just can't believe what they have

written in these things. I signed it anyway and did cross out the area where

it

said " I understand that I am endangering my child.... " . Now do you all

think she is pushing it or what?? I feel like she is the type of doc who won't

stop asking us until we do it. I can't put myself through this!! I'm not

sure if I should continue my journey to finding a new ped or just stay w/

her...I don't know. I know a lot of you have encountered those pushy-type

docs,

so did you stay w/ them or did you find a new one? Maybe I could have stood

up for myself a little more and said " we've already made our decision as

parents, and that's that " but I didn't.

Cat

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I was gone both times docs tried to be pushy. When they don't even know that

thimerosal is still in many vaxes and that they ALL have preservatives, I

honestly would leave. If they can't even keep THAT up-to-date on medical stuff,

I couldn't trust them to know anything else if the time came for it.

Lori

The new ped was so pushy

So I took my 2 boys (2yrs and 4mos) to their new pediatrician yesterday.

She was all ready to give them their shots and I told her that we aren't

continuing their shots. So I get the speech about how I should out weigh the

consequences of getting them and not getting them, and how the risks are more

severe if I was to not continue them. Then she went on the say since Adam

(4mos)

already had the first series of shots, then I was better off to continue the

rest because it's safer and he is at high risk right now. I rolled my eyes

and I think she got the hint that I was sticking to my guns. She said she is

not going to push me on getting the immunizations, but she was trying to be

very convincing. She told me things how her vaccines are mercury free and

preservative free. I just told her that me and my husband decided we are not

going to do it and she says she wants my husband to come in at the next

appnt, I'm assuming she will try to talk my hubby into getting them immunized.

I

can't believe that. She even said that I should come in THIS WEEK instead of

their next months appnt w/ him so we could all talk. At the end of the

appointment she took Adam out into the hallway while I was getting Ray dressed

and

I asked her to please keep Adam in the room. I think from now on I will

take them in for individual appnts instead of having them seen at the same

time.

So I did sign the refusal form and I just can't believe what they have

written in these things. I signed it anyway and did cross out the area where

it

said " I understand that I am endangering my child.... " . Now do you all

think she is pushing it or what?? I feel like she is the type of doc who won't

stop asking us until we do it. I can't put myself through this!! I'm not

sure if I should continue my journey to finding a new ped or just stay w/

her...I don't know. I know a lot of you have encountered those pushy-type

docs,

so did you stay w/ them or did you find a new one? Maybe I could have stood

up for myself a little more and said " we've already made our decision as

parents, and that's that " but I didn't.

Cat

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Make your next appt and if she starts again tell her that you've made your

decision and if she presses the isue you wil no longer do business with her

office.After all,she works for you!!!!!!!Good luck.Lori-

babyelrayess@... wrote: So I took my 2 boys (2yrs and 4mos) to

their new pediatrician yesterday.

She was all ready to give them their shots and I told her that we aren't

continuing their shots. So I get the speech about how I should out weigh the

consequences of getting them and not getting them, and how the risks are more

severe if I was to not continue them. Then she went on the say since Adam (4mos)

already had the first series of shots, then I was better off to continue the

rest because it's safer and he is at high risk right now. I rolled my eyes

and I think she got the hint that I was sticking to my guns. She said she is

not going to push me on getting the immunizations, but she was trying to be

very convincing. She told me things how her vaccines are mercury free and

preservative free. I just told her that me and my husband decided we are not

going to do it and she says she wants my husband to come in at the next

appnt, I'm assuming she will try to talk my hubby into getting them immunized. I

can't believe that. She even said that I should come in THIS WEEK instead of

their next months appnt w/ him so we could all talk. At the end of the

appointment she took Adam out into the hallway while I was getting Ray dressed

and

I asked her to please keep Adam in the room. I think from now on I will

take them in for individual appnts instead of having them seen at the same time.

So I did sign the refusal form and I just can't believe what they have

written in these things. I signed it anyway and did cross out the area where it

said " I understand that I am endangering my child.... " . Now do you all

think she is pushing it or what?? I feel like she is the type of doc who won't

stop asking us until we do it. I can't put myself through this!! I'm not

sure if I should continue my journey to finding a new ped or just stay w/

her...I don't know. I know a lot of you have encountered those pushy-type docs,

so did you stay w/ them or did you find a new one? Maybe I could have stood

up for myself a little more and said " we've already made our decision as

parents, and that's that " but I didn't.

Cat

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That is a scary situation indeed. Me and hubby have talked about " what if

they called CPS for not vaxing " . Gosh I don't know what I would do in this

situation. Although my 2yr old is almost fully vaxed and my 4 month old was

vaxed up until 2 months. Somehow I just feel like people want to force us.

What ever happened to living in a " free " country, and most of all, what ever

happened to being able to make decisions for your own children. This scares me

because of the pediatrician being so pushy, what if she wants to take more

action.

If you are really concerned about getting reported for not vaxing, maybe you

can move to a more understanding state?

About the man w/ the prescription, it reminds me of a time in my life. I

was put on high blood pressure medications but I NEVER took them (lebetelol

sp?). I just did not believe that these medications would help me at all, and

I

am the only one who knows how my body works. So I was going into the doctor

once a week so they could monitor me on the medication, and I would get it

filled and everything but never actually took the medication. My blood

pressure was going down on it's own and the doc actually thought it was because

of

the medication. I know it was a total waste of my time when I could have

just told the doctor that I was against taking medications, but in all

honestly,

I personally thought my life would be easier if I just did what the doc said

so I would not have any problems, I did not want to hear the " speech " .

Maybe the guy could do what I did.

I think the doctor would have been easier off if he just told me that

" resting more will lower your blood pressure " . But then again he wouldn't be

making money that way!!

Cat

In a message dated 1/17/2008 12:37:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

twotheark@... writes:

My ped tried to convince us to vax, but said he would defer to us. However,

my chiro recently told me of a man who didn't want to take the meds his

doctor was prescribing (for high cholesterol or high blood pressure.) The

doctor called the man's insurance company. The insurance company called the

man and said they would cancel him if he didn't follow the doctor's orders.

At least with a prescription, you could have it filled but not actually take

it. What if the ped calls the insurance company about not vaxing? I live

in MD where they were threatening jail to parents who didn't get their kids

vaxed. It seems the stranglehold of big pHarma is getting bigger. I want

to find a naturopath or someone who doesn't want me to vax the kids so I

don't have to worry that I might say something that will cause them to

" report " me to the insurance company.

Trish - getting paranoid in MD

Re: The new ped was so pushy

> Make your next appt and if she starts again tell her that you've made your

> decision and if she presses the isue you wil no longer do business with

> her office.After all,she works for you!!!!!!!Good luck.Lori-

>

> _babyelrayess@babyelr_ (mailto:babyelrayess@...) wrote: So I took my

2 boys (2yrs and 4mos)

> to their new pediatrician yesterday.

> She was all ready to give them their shots and I told her that we aren't

> continuing their shots. So I get the speech about how I should out weigh

> the

> consequences of getting them and not getting them, and how the risks are

> more

> severe if I was to not continue them. Then she went on the say since Adam

> (4mos)

> already had the first series of shots, then I was better off to continue

> the

> rest because it's safer and he is at high risk right now. I rolled my eyes

> and I think she got the hint that I was sticking to my guns. She said she

> is

> not going to push me on getting the immunizations, but she was trying to

> be

> very convincing. She told me things how her vaccines are mercury free and

> preservative free. I just told her that me and my husband decided we are

> not

> going to do it and she says she wants my husband to come in at the next

> appnt, I'm assuming she will try to talk my hubby into getting them

> immunized. I

> can't believe that. She even said that I should come in THIS WEEK instead

> of

> their next months appnt w/ him so we could all talk. At the end of the

> appointment she took Adam out into the hallway while I was getting Ray

> dressed and

> I asked her to please keep Adam in the room. I think from now on I will

> take them in for individual appnts instead of having them seen at the same

> time.

> So I did sign the refusal form and I just can't believe what they have

> written in these things. I signed it anyway and did cross out the area

> where it

> said " I understand that I am endangering my child.... " . Now do you all

> think she is pushing it or what?? I feel like she is the type of doc who

> won't

> stop asking us until we do it. I can't put myself through this!! I'm not

> sure if I should continue my journey to finding a new ped or just stay w/

> her...I don't know. I know a lot of you have encountered those pushy-type

> docs,

> so did you stay w/ them or did you find a new one? Maybe I could have

> stood

> up for myself a little more and said " we've already made our decision as

> parents, and that's that " but I didn't.

>

>

> Cat

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My ped tried to convince us to vax, but said he would defer to us. However,

my chiro recently told me of a man who didn't want to take the meds his

doctor was prescribing (for high cholesterol or high blood pressure.) The

doctor called the man's insurance company. The insurance company called the

man and said they would cancel him if he didn't follow the doctor's orders.

At least with a prescription, you could have it filled but not actually take

it. What if the ped calls the insurance company about not vaxing? I live

in MD where they were threatening jail to parents who didn't get their kids

vaxed. It seems the stranglehold of big pHarma is getting bigger. I want

to find a naturopath or someone who doesn't want me to vax the kids so I

don't have to worry that I might say something that will cause them to

" report " me to the insurance company.

Trish - getting paranoid in MD

Re: The new ped was so pushy

> Make your next appt and if she starts again tell her that you've made your

> decision and if she presses the isue you wil no longer do business with

> her office.After all,she works for you!!!!!!!Good luck.Lori-

>

> babyelrayess@... wrote: So I took my 2 boys (2yrs and 4mos)

> to their new pediatrician yesterday.

> She was all ready to give them their shots and I told her that we aren't

> continuing their shots. So I get the speech about how I should out weigh

> the

> consequences of getting them and not getting them, and how the risks are

> more

> severe if I was to not continue them. Then she went on the say since Adam

> (4mos)

> already had the first series of shots, then I was better off to continue

> the

> rest because it's safer and he is at high risk right now. I rolled my eyes

> and I think she got the hint that I was sticking to my guns. She said she

> is

> not going to push me on getting the immunizations, but she was trying to

> be

> very convincing. She told me things how her vaccines are mercury free and

> preservative free. I just told her that me and my husband decided we are

> not

> going to do it and she says she wants my husband to come in at the next

> appnt, I'm assuming she will try to talk my hubby into getting them

> immunized. I

> can't believe that. She even said that I should come in THIS WEEK instead

> of

> their next months appnt w/ him so we could all talk. At the end of the

> appointment she took Adam out into the hallway while I was getting Ray

> dressed and

> I asked her to please keep Adam in the room. I think from now on I will

> take them in for individual appnts instead of having them seen at the same

> time.

> So I did sign the refusal form and I just can't believe what they have

> written in these things. I signed it anyway and did cross out the area

> where it

> said " I understand that I am endangering my child.... " . Now do you all

> think she is pushing it or what?? I feel like she is the type of doc who

> won't

> stop asking us until we do it. I can't put myself through this!! I'm not

> sure if I should continue my journey to finding a new ped or just stay w/

> her...I don't know. I know a lot of you have encountered those pushy-type

> docs,

> so did you stay w/ them or did you find a new one? Maybe I could have

> stood

> up for myself a little more and said " we've already made our decision as

> parents, and that's that " but I didn't.

>

>

> Cat

>

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<<I know a lot of you have encountered those pushy-type docs,

so did you stay w/ them or did you find a new one? Maybe I could have stood

up for myself a little more and said " we've already made our decision as

parents, and that's that " but I didn't.>>

Get a new one. Life's just too short to put up with that kind of aggravation.

I did, for far too long.

When I went looking for a new ped, I called the offices, told the nurse I was

looking for a new ped, and asked to speak directly to the doctor. The ones who

wouldn't were off the list. To the ones who called back, I explained that since

my kids were highly allergic, and we have serious allergies in the family

history, we take a more natural, non-interventionalist approach to healthcare;

we focus on nutrition and wellness, try a lot of alternatives before using

antibiotics, and don't vaccinate... was that a viewpoint they could support?

I was direct, they were honest, and we've been with a traditional allopathic

pediatrician ever since, that we rarely see but are very happy with when we do.

Hasn't mentioned vaccines since the first visit, when he asked for a few minutes

to present the pro side -- gently, not pushy -- and I (mistakenly, apparently)

signed the form. He even acknowledged that some children seem particularly

prone to reactions, it was a personal decision, and he had other patients who

chose not to vaccinate.

Wish I hadn't wasted all those years with the other one.

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Here's the thing: Most threats to call CPS (or whatever the agency is

called in your state) are just that - threats. They're meant to scare

you into doing what the person wants you to do. Should the person

actually call CPS, CPS is not likely to do anything about it. At worst,

they may send a caseworker to your home. There have been threads at

MotheringDotCommune devoted to this topic, and that's what they all come

down to. Could CPS take your kids for refusing to vaccinate? It would be

a difficult sell to a judge, especially if the kids are healthy.

As for the guy with the blood pressure, it seems that the whole story

isn't being told, and the drama will probably play out for awhile.

~Robyn

babyelrayess@... wrote:

>

>

> That is a scary situation indeed. Me and hubby have talked about " what if

> they called CPS for not vaxing " . Gosh I don't know what I would do in

> this

> situation. Although my 2yr old is almost fully vaxed and my 4 month

> old was

> vaxed up until 2 months. Somehow I just feel like people want to force

> us.

> What ever happened to living in a " free " country, and most of all,

> what ever

> happened to being able to make decisions for your own children. This

> scares me

> because of the pediatrician being so pushy, what if she wants to take

> more

> action.

>

> If you are really concerned about getting reported for not vaxing,

> maybe you

> can move to a more understanding state?

>

>

>

>

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I had one, she shut the door and told me I would be considered " in neglect "

if I didn't get my sons immunized. I told he I would think about it and

left and immediately went to a different doctor.

I was angry but held it in and just " pacified " her, and left. I know she

would of called social services, even though I wasn't on it at the time. I

found a retired doctor that was filling in for his old practice and asked

him, he said, " oh no problem, they can come here " so I slipped in.

I have their exemption letter in the file, and probably half the Dr's there

don't even know they don't have their shots, but, it is there, so my butt is

covered.

Western NY

-- Re: The new ped was so pushy

<<I know a lot of you have encountered those pushy-type docs,

so did you stay w/ them or did you find a new one? Maybe I could have stood

up for myself a little more and said " we've already made our decision as

parents, and that's that " but I didn't.>>

Get a new one. Life's just too short to put up with that kind of aggravation

I did, for far too long.

When I went looking for a new ped, I called the offices, told the nurse I

was looking for a new ped, and asked to speak directly to the doctor. The

ones who wouldn't were off the list. To the ones who called back, I

explained that since my kids were highly allergic, and we have serious

allergies in the family history, we take a more natural,

non-interventionalist approach to healthcare; we focus on nutrition and

wellness, try a lot of alternatives before using antibiotics, and don't

vaccinate... was that a viewpoint they could support?

I was direct, they were honest, and we've been with a traditional allopathic

pediatrician ever since, that we rarely see but are very happy with when we

do. Hasn't mentioned vaccines since the first visit, when he asked for a few

minutes to present the pro side -- gently, not pushy -- and I (mistakenly,

apparently) signed the form. He even acknowledged that some children seem

particularly prone to reactions, it was a personal decision, and he had

other patients who chose not to vaccinate.

Wish I hadn't wasted all those years with the other one.

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I love my chiropractor too.She knows I don't have insurance so she only charges

me $35 for me and $15 for my son.And she spends alot of time with me too.Usually

a half hour or more.Lori-love that baby brendon

babyelrayess@... wrote:

THANK YOU RONI-!!! I just searched up a chiropractor in my area and I found

one that uses drug free health care. I called them up immediately and was

expecting to speak with a receptionist. Well the Dr. picked up which was so

unexpected and she could tell I was so upset with all the ped's we've been

through already. She explained everything to me so I could understand and she

said her kids are not immunized and she understands what I'm going through and

that my children could be perfectly healthy without the use w/o

immunizations. She said she would love to see my kids and she even gave me rates

which

were cheaper than the co-pay for the ped I just went to! I can't wait to see

her! Thank you so much for the suggestion & the info!

Cat

In a message dated 1/16/2008 12:39:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

calladragonlily@... writes:

I've dumped peds for less than that. If it were my ped, I'd be finding

another one and there'd be no hauling my husband into the office. She was WAY

out

of line.

As an aside, I don't use peds or MDs anymore. I have a wonderful

chiropractor/As an aside, I don't use peds or MDs anymore. I have a wonderful

chiropractor/<WBR>nutritionist who looks after everyone in our family and

attends to

our medical and health needs. I monitor the kids' development and growth at

home using the same growth chart they use at the doctor's office (it's available

on the internet). We have awesom

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