Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Joanne, that is amazing about our experiences. I truly think surgeons are guessing when they do surgery on adhesions. They make things worse most of the time it seems! I don't know if I had a reaction to the " stuff " they put in there to try to stop the adhesions. I do know that I was back in pain right after surgery - especially the 2nd surgery - I never got any pain relief at all! I know I had Interceed once and Seprafilm another time. I'm not sure which one was first?? Definitely keep me posted on how that stuff (Naticor) works. If you get good results, I might have to try it. Thanks! Pam > Wow Pam! I can't believe the similarities in our situations! I had > endo on my ovaries also. The doctor did a hyst and left my tubes > behind which resulted in adhesions The next doctor that went in with > a scope tried to remove too many of them and left a vein open which > resulted in a fuul blown hemmorrhage and a laparotomy to save my > life. After that I did not trust anyone here in the states especially > because I ended up with massive bowel adhesions after surgury # 2. > Surgery is adhesions worst enemy as you know. I found out about > something called Intergel which was being used in Germany and I > actually went there 2 years in a row. I guess the Interceed did not > work at all or so I was told. Now there are many law suits over the > Intergel. They eventually put it on the market here and there were > some deaths and tons of other problems. I have entered into a class > action suit there because it caused an allergic reaction following > the second treatment and left my bowels in shut down mode. What a > nightmare. > The good news is that I have been eating these foods for years > that claim to have live enzymes and my pain gets better all the time. > That is why when I heard about the Vitalzym I decided to try it. I am > actually taking the new one called Naticor which you can find on > www.enzymus.com. The only reason I opted for that one is because of > it's money back guarantee. It is the same as the Vitalzyme but a lot > stronger and has one added enzyme. The company claims that it gets > rid of fibrin which is what is in post operative scarring (adhesions) > I am praying for a miracle here as it has only been 2 weeks since I > started it and I really believe that I am seeing results. I am > suspecting that adhesions are caused by candida as they are a sticky > glue like substance. Who knows. I'll keep you posted on it, you can > be sure. Have a great day. Joanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Hi Joanne, I also have started taking Naticor. They say it can help Fibro also because it's suppose to eat up any non living tissue in your body. I have noticed a slight improvement after two weeks but I'm sure it's a long term usage that will really help. Goood Luck and let's hope this helps. Love Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Hi Lynda, Naticor is a new enzyme that the Japanese discovered from soy that is supposed eat all the non living substanse from your arteries, veins and muscle tissue. It is really good at eating up fibrin which is what causes hardening of the arteries. But I read fibrin can also lodge in your muscles and helps with firbomyalgia and other arthritic conditions. There are different brands Naticor is a brand name. The enzyme is call natto I think. I have seen another brand called Natto-K at Whole Foods also. It worth a try to me. I was taking Vialzym which is also good but it doesn't have this Natto in it. I am feeling an improvement. I was VERY bad with pain that felt like my back was ROTTING or something. Now it is getting better slowly. Also morning stiffness and swelling are MUCH better. Love Judi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Judi, What is Naticor? Lynda At 08:58 AM 3/29/2004, you wrote: >Hi Joanne, >I also have started taking Naticor. They say it can help Fibro also >because it's suppose to eat up any non living tissue in your body. I have >noticed a slight improvement after two weeks but I'm sure it's a long >term usage that will really help. >Goood Luck and let's hope this helps. >Love >Judi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 OK, very allergic to soy, so that probably lets me out. Thanks, Lynda At 12:17 PM 3/29/2004, you wrote: >Hi Lynda, >Naticor is a new enzyme that the Japanese discovered from soy that is >supposed eat all the non living substanse from your arteries, veins and >muscle tissue. It is really good at eating up fibrin which is what causes >hardening of the arteries. But I read fibrin can also lodge in your >muscles and helps with firbomyalgia and other arthritic conditions. There >are different brands Naticor is a brand name. The enzyme is call natto I >think. I have seen another brand called Natto-K at Whole Foods also. It >worth a try to me. I was taking Vialzym which is also good but it doesn't >have this Natto in it. I am feeling an improvement. I was VERY bad with >pain that felt like my back was ROTTING or something. Now it is getting >better slowly. >Also morning stiffness and swelling are MUCH better. >Love >Judi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Natto is a bean in used in japanese cooking. it is called a sticky bean because of all the sticky slim that is found on the beans....it looks gross and smells horrible. i order a natto roll at a sushi bar once. i'll try anything once but that was gross. the sushi chef did say that natto was extremely good for you! >From: jaylow2100@... >Reply- > >Subject: Re: adhesions and vitalzym >Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:17:58 EST > >Hi Lynda, >Naticor is a new enzyme that the Japanese discovered from soy that is >supposed eat all the non living substanse from your arteries, veins and muscle >tissue. It is really good at eating up fibrin which is what causes hardening of the >arteries. But I read fibrin can also lodge in your muscles and helps with >firbomyalgia and other arthritic conditions. There are different brands Naticor >is a brand name. The enzyme is call natto I think. I have seen another brand >called Natto-K at Whole Foods also. It worth a try to me. I was taking Vialzym >which is also good but it doesn't have this Natto in it. I am feeling an >improvement. I was VERY bad with pain that felt like my back was ROTTING or >something. Now it is getting better slowly. >Also morning stiffness and swelling are MUCH better. >Love >Judi Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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