Re: Re: Need answers to support non vax

February 8, 2008

You can? I had a dog with cancer years ago and we took her to a homeopathic vet.

She was doing really well but when the rabies vaccine came due, I was really

torn since we live in the woods. I was worried about her being quarantined (or

worse) if there was any encounter with a rabid animal. I was not knowledgable

about vaccines then, although this was the vet who opened my eyes to the issue.

He said I could tell the town he recommended she not get the vaccine, but in the

end I got it for her. Sad to say, I really feel it was her downfall. How would

you get an exemption, and what would the town do with your pet if they were

exposed to rabies?

Winnie

Need answers to support non vax

> > Vaccinations

> >

> > > Hi all,

> > > I forwarded the article that Ingrid had wrote up with the

> > > rebuttal to

> > > some family and friends, and one mfamily member responded

> with

> > > some

> > > questions. She is a very open minded person, well educated,

> and

> > > healthy living type lady. She does not have kids yet, but is

> > > trying

> > > to get informed about vaxing. Anyway, here is the email with

> > > questions she sent me. If anyone can give me some good

> > > responses I'd

> > > be most apprecieative. I'd hate to send her something incorrect.

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > I had some questions if you have time -

> > >

> > > 1) Don't schools require kids to have vaccinations? What do

> you

> > > do if

> > > you don't have them?

> > > 2) They recommend vaccinations for travel to certain parts

> of

> > > the

> > > world (I am not sure if they are mandated or required) - if

> a

> > > child

> > > would not be vaccinated and want to be a world traveler

> later to

> > > lesser developed parts of the world - would this pose an

> issue?

> > > 3) If drug companies are assisting with the fear based

> decisions

> > > to

> > > get vaccinations - isn't the non-vaccination contingent also

> > > putting

> > > fear out there for the worst case scenarios if people are

> > > vaccinated?

> > > I think parents are so scared now on both sides they don't

> know

> > > what

> > > to do. Obviously growing up all of us were vaccinated and I

> > > never

> > > heard of anyone dying, developing abnormalities or having

> brain

> > > damage from a vaccination until now. Have the levels in the

> > > vaccinations changed? Or have we evolved with the

> environmental

> > > exposures so that people now are affected differently? Or

> were

> > > people

> > > just not aware then of the problems they had were cased by

> > > vaccinations? Is there " proof " that vaccinations were the

> only

> > > cause

> > > of death or illness/ no other factors?

> > > 4) I know my MIL talks of the days of the small pox/polio

> scares

> > > when

> > > she was little and how people would have to be quarantined.

> I

> > > read

> > > below that after vaccinations there were more cases of small

> pox

> > > supposedly - but is there no safe protection against these

> types

> > > of

> > > diseases? What if they reworked levels or additives? Do you

> > > think

> > > there could ever be a " safe " non-toxic vaccine? There is

> fear

> > > that

> > > terrorists could use bioterrorism with small-pox, etc.

> > > 5) How about tetanus shots? Are they bad too? Are there any

> > > vaccinations that are ok? Do you think pet vaccinations are

> ok?

> > > I

> > > would hate to think I am killing my kitty.

> > >

> > > I think it is good to be educated and then make a decision -

> but

> > > I

> > > think people should make their own decisions as to what is

> best

> > > for

> > > their families - not based on fear or peer pressure one way

> or

> > > the

> > > other.

> > >

> > > Let me know your thoughts. I appreciate the food for

> thought.

> > >

> >

February 8, 2008

I used to work for a vet that wrote exemptions all the time. We

either did titers, and people could hand that in with the exemption to

the town, or the Dr would write that the pet was vaccinated prior and

wasn't healthy enough to receive another but was covered from the last

vaccine (the titers have been showing that the vaccine stays in the

dog for YEARS) However, I don't know about the rabies vax, but the

dhpp, bord, and lyme we used to give all the time never stopped sick

or weakened pets from getting parvo, kennel cough or lyme disease...

I just don't vax, and honestly, I don't register with the town. My

dogs are coming and going a lot anyway, so I never have all the same

ones here, but I feel that registering dogs is just another way for

people to keep tabs on you an tell you what to do. If I get caught

though, I know there are fines involved...

: )

www.canyoncreeklabs.com

On Feb 8, 2008, at 7:26 AM, wharrison@... wrote:

> You can? I had a dog with cancer years ago and we took her to a

> homeopathic vet. She was doing really well but when the rabies

> vaccine came due, I was really torn since we live in the woods. I

> was worried about her being quarantined (or worse) if there was any

> encounter with a rabid animal. I was not knowledgable about vaccines

> then, although this was the vet who opened my eyes to the issue. He

> said I could tell the town he recommended she not get the vaccine,

> but in the end I got it for her. Sad to say, I really feel it was

> her downfall. How would you get an exemption, and what would the

> town do with your pet if they were exposed to rabies?

>

> Winnie

>

> Need answers to support non vax

> > > Vaccinations

> > >

> > > > Hi all,

> > > > I forwarded the article that Ingrid had wrote up with the

> > > > rebuttal to

> > > > some family and friends, and one mfamily member responded

> > with

> > > > some

> > > > questions. She is a very open minded person, well educated,

> > and

> > > > healthy living type lady. She does not have kids yet, but is

> > > > trying

> > > > to get informed about vaxing. Anyway, here is the email with

> > > > questions she sent me. If anyone can give me some good

> > > > responses I'd

> > > > be most apprecieative. I'd hate to send her something incorrect.

> > > > Thanks,

> > > >

> > > > I had some questions if you have time -

> > > >

> > > > 1) Don't schools require kids to have vaccinations? What do

> > you

> > > > do if

> > > > you don't have them?

> > > > 2) They recommend vaccinations for travel to certain parts

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > world (I am not sure if they are mandated or required) - if

> > a

> > > > child

> > > > would not be vaccinated and want to be a world traveler

> > later to

> > > > lesser developed parts of the world - would this pose an

> > issue?

> > > > 3) If drug companies are assisting with the fear based

> > decisions

> > > > to

> > > > get vaccinations - isn't the non-vaccination contingent also

> > > > putting

> > > > fear out there for the worst case scenarios if people are

> > > > vaccinated?

> > > > I think parents are so scared now on both sides they don't

> > know

> > > > what

> > > > to do. Obviously growing up all of us were vaccinated and I

> > > > never

> > > > heard of anyone dying, developing abnormalities or having

> > brain

> > > > damage from a vaccination until now. Have the levels in the

> > > > vaccinations changed? Or have we evolved with the

> > environmental

> > > > exposures so that people now are affected differently? Or

> > were

> > > > people

> > > > just not aware then of the problems they had were cased by

> > > > vaccinations? Is there " proof " that vaccinations were the

> > only

> > > > cause

> > > > of death or illness/ no other factors?

> > > > 4) I know my MIL talks of the days of the small pox/polio

> > scares

> > > > when

> > > > she was little and how people would have to be quarantined.

> > I

> > > > read

> > > > below that after vaccinations there were more cases of small

> > pox

> > > > supposedly - but is there no safe protection against these

> > types

> > > > of

> > > > diseases? What if they reworked levels or additives? Do you

> > > > think

> > > > there could ever be a " safe " non-toxic vaccine? There is

> > fear

> > > > that

> > > > terrorists could use bioterrorism with small-pox, etc.

> > > > 5) How about tetanus shots? Are they bad too? Are there any

> > > > vaccinations that are ok? Do you think pet vaccinations are

> > ok?

> > > > I

> > > > would hate to think I am killing my kitty.

> > > >

> > > > I think it is good to be educated and then make a decision -

> > but

> > > > I

> > > > think people should make their own decisions as to what is

> > best

> > > > for

> > > > their families - not based on fear or peer pressure one way

> > or

> > > > the

> > > > other.

> > > >

> > > > Let me know your thoughts. I appreciate the food for

> > thought.

> > > >

> > >

February 8, 2008

my dog got parvo 3 mths after the vax and almost died...in the vet " icu " for a

week...

Crisanti <canyon13@...> wrote: I used to work for a

vet that wrote exemptions all the time. We